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craz azn
10-23-2004, 11:17 PM
so exactly how low can a e30 go? mine measures 22 inches all the way around from the top of the fender arch to the ground. I ask because i looked at my axles in the back and noticed that the diff is lower than the control arms wheel bearings when loaded. is there a certain point where the suspension geometry just doesnt work ne more cause the car is too low? obviously, i will bottom out a lot but will this be a problem for say bumpstops or the shocks? i want it low but not that low that i need new shocks every 5k because they blow out. :idea: can neone also post how low their cars are so i can take referance to that? *th-up*
thanks

R

Jordan
10-23-2004, 11:18 PM
A thread all about this subject

http://www.r3vlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9601

I have a hard time believing your car is a 1.75inches lower then mine. Much less you actually drive it as such.

craz azn
10-23-2004, 11:19 PM
word

thanks jordan

craz azn
10-23-2004, 11:20 PM
hold up
says it doesnt exist :confused:

Jordan
10-23-2004, 11:23 PM
Try again... its there

craz azn
10-23-2004, 11:32 PM
it works now :confused: *mumble*
thanks

MR 325
10-24-2004, 05:31 PM
The rear of your car looks a tad too low, I hate that.

Anyway, lol... What springs/shocks are you running?

craz azn
10-24-2004, 06:32 PM
i think i didnt word my question properly. i would like to know if my car being so low as it is will be any problems to say the shocks or the suspension because of the extreme lowering. anyone have any experience of the diff flanges poping out or the ball joints breaking in the front? i think thats what i wanna know. thanks
R

Jordan
10-24-2004, 06:45 PM
If your car is as low as it appears in your sig, its really not good for it.

Your front control arms and tierods are pointing up. This makes for bump steer and accelerated wear. Any shocks/struts you have are working outside their designed operating range and will fail prematurely.

and it looks ghetto.

anything else?

MR 325
10-25-2004, 12:25 AM
Maybe I should rephrase my question, what suspension are you running?

craz azn
10-25-2004, 09:03 AM
as of right now im not runnin anythin solid. i just put in my parts car springs in that i cut but i stilll will buy some h&r race springs. I also have Jamex springs i could use. it still has the stock shcoks but they are finished. i still have to buy bilstein front shocks but i have the rear one new from an e30 m3.
thats my suspension. all the new stuff is goin in for new years' summer.
R

Jordan
10-25-2004, 11:14 AM
So... you have stock struts (which are NO DOUBT completely blown) and cut stock springs?

That must ride and handle super.

T.Dot_E30
10-25-2004, 11:19 AM
That must ride and handle super.

Whoa first time i heard something positive outa jordon's post.....lol even thou it was sarcastic.

I was expecting a more negative tone..........hmmm jordon are feeling ok? must be in good mood.

back on topic. Ya man, get a real setup......I dont see why you need to go that low, but whatever floats your boat.

Slowered318
10-25-2004, 11:25 AM
if you wanna go that low.. you might as well run bump stops with a an air strut/bag combo

BMW BMXer
10-25-2004, 12:08 PM
How did you cut the rear springs and still have them seat properly.

craz azn
10-25-2004, 03:03 PM
for the rear spring to stay i cut a block of wood out, drilled a hole in the middle for the control arm nub thingy, and craved the top in a cone style fasion so the springs when loaded cant fall out. but ya, for next spring i might just buy eibach springs and put in my bilstein shocks

qimis
10-25-2004, 03:45 PM
damn .... that's smart ! hehe ... got pictures of that ?

BMW BMXer
10-25-2004, 04:26 PM
..wood you say..

///m powered
10-25-2004, 08:00 PM
make sure you invest in a good suspension setup, don't half ass it, you'll really regret it a few months down the road

Jase
10-25-2004, 08:12 PM
My ride is low.. too low in fact. I have FK 75mm front and 50 mm rears. kyb shocks( waste of $) the fact you like a low ride is fine but you shouldnt just cut stuff and run stock shocks. The damage you will do will cost you more in the end.heres a pic to give you the idea.

e46badboy
10-25-2004, 09:25 PM
Same problem I had .

craz azn
10-25-2004, 09:49 PM
hey Jase? whats wrong wit ur car in the pic? it looks fine. anyone know what the 'bmwm5lover' is running for suspension?
R

Jase
10-25-2004, 10:08 PM
thats the 50mm rear, the front is 25 mm lower. 75mm is just over a 3" drop.My oil pan is about 2.5-3" off the ground. *shiner* all im getting at is that if you dont drop it right you will destroy the suspension. Mine is done with low springs(stiffer) and sport shocks (shorter) and I am sure i will take out the pan or front valance.Just cutting the springs can be dangerous to you , others and your car. *no-no*
Jase

gsbadbmr
10-25-2004, 10:25 PM
If you want a good ride, get yourself some Apex 60mm lowering springs with some Bilstein sport shocks...and a nice set of 18's.

-gsbadbmr

Jase
10-25-2004, 10:33 PM
Gord there is no way I could tuck 18"s under mine..lol I would have to drive on rubber bands.

gsbadbmr
10-25-2004, 10:52 PM
Gord there is no way I could tuck 18"s under mine..lol I would have to drive on rubber bands.

I drive on rubberbands 215/35/18's...and i love it!

Jase, 18's would easily fit your car, you just need to have the PROPER offset like mine to MAKE them fit correctly *th-up*

-gsbadbmr

qimis
10-25-2004, 11:00 PM
anyone know what the 'bmwm5lover' is running for suspension?
R

i think he has apex 60mm

BMW BMXer
10-25-2004, 11:23 PM
bmwm5lover has apex. I was going to buy them from m50e30 before.

Jase
10-25-2004, 11:45 PM
You want to drop it.. then get a 80mm/80mm set of fk's. it would be almost on the ground.. if you want to get it low right,it is either a good set of springs and shocks or coilovers.

craz azn
10-26-2004, 08:41 AM
I know cut springs probably arent the best idea. the apex springs, are they yellow, cause i have a set of yellow springs too but i didnt know what they were for. I guess my plan for next year is to spend some $$ on the suspension

b00b00
11-10-2004, 01:14 AM
If anyone is interested I have a set of lowering springs for sale.

AP Sportfahrwerke - Complete Suspension
for BMW E30
60mm drop front
40mm drop rear

Big drop, looks great.
check out:
http://www.ap-sportfahrwerke.de/pages/50_complete_suspension.cfm

Excellent quality, made in Germany to TUV standards.
1 year old.
Located in Montreal but can deliver to Toronto or ship at buyers expense.

Reason for sale: going club racing and buying a coil-over setup

$ 300 neg.

André
email me at syldre@hotmail.com

anaps
12-07-2004, 04:24 PM
Originally tried to private message this to you Craz Azn, but seems you're out of space.
If youre interested, I have Apex lowering springs on my car. they are 2.5" lowering springs, which according to my calculations is about 63 mm... sounds like the ones people are reccomending you use... I am going to be changing them within the next month, so if you want em, let me know, im sure we can make a deal that leaves us both happy!
thanks, Andrew

anaps
12-08-2004, 12:00 PM
hey Rudy, i got your message this morning but still cant send you a reply cause it says yout quota is full... probably communicating privately on a public forum violates some sort of forum protocol, so sorry everyone... but heres my message
As far as pictures go, my car is the one that used to be owned by Fil at Eurostyle, so its the white one on his business card on all his posts, and that he posted on the 'post your e30' thread, those pics are with the apex springs... Also, someone asked me to post pics of its current condition, so I will. check it out on that 'post your e30' thread, those pics too are with the apex springs in question. (gotta run to work now, but by this evening the pics will be posted)
for the springs, I do have a set lined up that I bought over ebay... still, let me know what kind you have anyway, but probably I wont want to trade...
where is Port Perry?
thanks, Andrew