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Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:09 PM
I was driving home last night, and I heard a weird noise.. good thing I wasn't driving fast.. well My stupid tires blew out on me again, the same side, the ones I just bought. (I got new ones on warranty)

I figured maybe its rubbing on something.. but I checked the inside of my wheel well, and, nothing. So I came to the conclusion that these sidewalls cannot take the weight of my car (4000 lbs)


I'm now currently looking at these tires, I'm looking for a good performance tires with good tire wear <-- Emphasis on tire wear!


Pirelli PZero Nero
Bridgestone Potenza RE750
Bridgestone Potenza RE730 Gen. 2
Yokohama AVS ES100
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S

If you guys recommend anything else, please feel free to tell. I'm trying to keep it under $300/tire.



Here's the goddamn tire.

SickFinga
10-10-2004, 07:17 PM
hmmm, this is really wierd, i think you should check your car more thoroughly

Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:20 PM
I didn't find anything, nothing is touching. I know, I think something is rubbing too, but if you look at the tire, there are no marks on either side of the hole..

Sunapollo
10-10-2004, 07:30 PM
It looks like it's cut by something sharp ???

Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:35 PM
i think the tire gave out..

Miguel
10-10-2004, 07:36 PM
Size: 235/40/18
Toyo T1's
Price: $650 Usd. shipped to your door
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244270

Contact: njzprettyboy on BF.com
732.433.0554
njzprettyboy@aol.com (Correspondence)
chiragpa@eden.rutgers.edu (Paypal)
AIM-njzprettyboy

Justin e36
10-10-2004, 07:37 PM
damn.. be careful man. chuck those tires in the garbage. Maybe it only rubs on something when you go over a large bump or something.. enough to give a small incision in the side of the tire which grows over time?. .. or maybe i'm just over-thinking this.

Possibly over-inflating them? ... how many PSI?

T.Dot_E30
10-10-2004, 07:38 PM
damn that sucks man, what size tire is it?

is there a way to check the load rating to see if you went over it.

Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:45 PM
I checked the entire wheel well, looked all over, it didn't see any rubbing whatsoever. Even the suspension rods, everything, I couldn't see anything.

Miguel, thanks, but I kinda need the tires this week (bimmercruise), and T1S's kinda wear fast.

I will consider them though, if I can get them for a good price.

Mitch555
10-10-2004, 07:45 PM
I'm running on Yokohama Parada Spec2's (Spec 1's were SHIT). This is my 3rd summer using them and they still have lots of life left.

These tires are awsome in the rain. Saved me a few times!
They are very grippy tires rain or dry. After 3 summers the rubber is still soft and hasn't hardened up. They are priced decently also. I paid $350 taxes included per tire (225/35/19).

I rate them 8.5/10 for overall.

Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:46 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Kumho&model=ECSTA+Supra+712

The load rating is there (235/40-R18) 1356lbs, which should be ok.

Gamite
10-10-2004, 07:47 PM
I'm running on Yokohama Parada Spec2's (Spec 1's were SHIT). This is my 3rd summer using them and they still have lots of life left.

These tires are awsome in the rain. Saved me a few times!
They are very grippy tires rain or dry. After 3 summers the rubber is still soft and hasn't hardened up. They are priced decently also. I paid $350 taxes included per tire (225/35/19).

I rate them 8.5/10 for overall.


I heard they're not good for heavy cars.

qimis
10-10-2004, 08:10 PM
man .... i can't imagine how's mine gonna be w/ super stretched like that. *sad*

Size: 235/40/18
Toyo T1's
Price: $650 Usd. shipped to your door
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244270

Contact: njzprettyboy on BF.com
732.433.0554
njzprettyboy@aol.com (Correspondence)
chiragpa@eden.rutgers.edu (Paypal)
AIM-njzprettyboy

his prices are pretty good, good guy too. the other one is www.edgeracing.com their prices are just amazing. *th-up*

Gamite
10-10-2004, 08:18 PM
I need to be able to find them locally, cuz I need them by this week. I'm more interested in which tires I should buy. I will ask my supplier about T1s' as well, I think last time he gave me a good quote on them.

A~G
10-10-2004, 08:33 PM
I'd hate to say I told you so... but... I TOLD YOU SO. :D Kumho's are terrible tires. I have them on my mazda...because they were the cheapest brand I could find... aside from Motomaster.. and i'm NOT degrading myself to that nomatter what i drive

Gamite
10-10-2004, 08:43 PM
Yea I know, they were my first set, then they got really bald, and I bought a set off my friend for dirt cheap. Then one blew, so I got another off warranty, and now it blew again.. so.. I through with them. I'm not cheaping out anymore. Its a matter of safty here. I'm not gonna have one of these tires blow out on me on the highway.

Understated
10-10-2004, 08:44 PM
I'd hate to say I told you so... but... I TOLD YOU SO. :D Kumho's are terrible tires. I have them on my mazda...because they were the cheapest brand I could find... aside from Motomaster.. and i'm NOT degrading myself to that nomatter what i drive

LMAO....i remember my sister had motomasters on her 91 accord.....they were THINNNNNNN @$$ tires so fuggin ougly...i think it even had a canadian tire symbol on the sidewall...lmao

thinair
10-10-2004, 09:07 PM
The only performance Kumho tire worth getting is the MX.

Julian, how much air pressure do you run? Also, where do you get your tires installed? It looks like the tire might have been creased under pressure when being installed, which weakened the sidewall.

The Yoko ES100's I have wore pretty well, despite me auto-xing and tracking my car. If I was on a budget I'd buy them again.

paul christians
10-10-2004, 09:13 PM
Do the TOYO T1S.........

Gamite
10-10-2004, 09:41 PM
well, I don't know the exact pressure at the time of puncture of course, but it "should" have been around 36PSI. I got them installed at wheels direct.

How are the ES100 tread wear?

Yes, paul, I will look into the T1S'

AMG_POWER
10-10-2004, 09:43 PM
Sue them....

Gamite
10-10-2004, 09:49 PM
under what grounds? I'm not gotta sue someoen for a $150 tire. :rolleyes:

Lee in Ottawa
10-10-2004, 09:51 PM
Tough luck Gamite good to hear that you're safe. I can vouch for the ES100's. I've had them for about 1 1/2 seasons. They're wearing good. I belive they have a 300 treadwear. As for performance they handle quite well. I personnally find that they aren't the best in the rain. Oh ya they havn't had any problems with my heavy 535.Can you get azena's (spelling?) in 18's. I've heard nothing but good thing about them. anyways hope this helps alittle

Gamite
10-10-2004, 09:57 PM
That's good to hear.. Glad they stand up well with your E34. I will seriously consider them.

FastM3
10-11-2004, 12:57 AM
You should complain big time! Get them to give you money back or some expensive rubber!

Gamite
10-11-2004, 01:10 AM
no i can't, cuz I bought the wheels off my friend, and I didn't have the recipt, and the only reason why they pulled the first warranty off for me, cuz randy called in a favour.

kontesto
10-11-2004, 01:28 AM
Look at either the Bridgestone Fuzions or the Toyo T1-S. The Fuzions are an incredible tire with great treadwear. Check out Extreme Wheel and Tire at Yonge & 19th in Richmond Hill, ask for Paul or Mark and tell them that Karim sent you, they should be able to hook you up nicely.

If you have any questions PM me, they've got alot in stock

KM

Gamite
10-11-2004, 01:31 AM
Yea, I heard about thse Fuzions, I'm just scared cuz I bought Kumho's hearing good reviews on them, they were relatively new when I bought my tires. I just don't wanna be stuck in the same situation.

TheMadChigga
10-11-2004, 01:47 AM
yea Kuhmo is fairly shitty when comes to the 712s, I ran 'em for a while on the Volvo, boy, did they help me to lose traction in both dry & wet conditions, then I scored some Pilot SX and not much better.

if you want both relatively good price & great handling, try Dunlop FM901 too, I've heard some are rather unhappy with the wearing on the Yoko's ES100 , which are competing with the FM901, I'm extremely satisfy with mine, although they are rated at 200 for trade wear, but have been held up fine with mine with roughly 10k km on it, and auto-x & track days on them too.

Gamite
10-11-2004, 02:02 AM
I found, that the tires (712) were great out of the box, but after a few K's on them, they suddenly start to lose their properties.

thinair
10-11-2004, 02:17 AM
I managed about 20k on my ES100's, and you know how I drive.

Gamite
10-11-2004, 04:47 AM
You drive, like, granny style if I remember correctly.. :P

Paul540/m3
10-11-2004, 10:00 AM
Julian,
You should try the Bridgestone Fuzions, they are supposed to be the best bang for your buck tire out there. The re750's are good too but i see u already have those in mind

Paul540/m3
10-11-2004, 10:06 AM
Look at either the Bridgestone Fuzions or the Toyo T1-S. The Fuzions are an incredible tire with great treadwear. Check out Extreme Wheel and Tire at Yonge & 19th in Richmond Hill, ask for Paul or Mark and tell them that Karim sent you, they should be able to hook you up nicely.

If you have any questions PM me, they've got alot in stock

KM

Whoa smart guy, wonder where u go that hook up LOL :rolleyes:
But yea i would also suggest the t1-s's i run them myself in 19 and love them, excellent in wet too. But Like karim said the fuzions are an excellent tires and have had excellent reviews. Call Extreme and they should take care of you. :)
And good luck

Justin e36
10-11-2004, 02:05 PM
Been 2 years and my Potenza's still have 9/10 thread on them... I'm an aggressive driver too.

T1S is also definately worth considering. But with winter right around the corner... maybe you should invest your cash in some winter's instead?

Gamite
10-11-2004, 06:04 PM
Been 2 years and my Potenza's still have 9/10 thread on them... I'm an aggressive driver too.

T1S is also definately worth considering. But with winter right around the corner... maybe you should invest your cash in some winter's instead?


Which potenza's do you have?

I don't need winters, don't drive the car in winter.

Mystikal
10-11-2004, 06:20 PM
RE750's are awesome all around, but you know how pricey there are (remember the quote I gave you? LMAO). I vote for the Nero M&S'. They have an insane treadwear rating, are surprisingly affordble, and are getting solid reviews from all types of cars. Pirelli also tends to market to more expensive luxury cars also, so your weight issue could be better off with them. Also, despite being "all-seasons" (anyone who dares take them in the snow is insane) they likely have better performance characteristics than those horrible 712's.

Good luck.

Gamite
10-11-2004, 06:47 PM
I don't understand why the 750's are so cheap in the US but so expensive here. They're like $150 US at tire rack.

Jordan
10-11-2004, 07:13 PM
ES100's all the way. Awesome tire for the money. Outstanding wet performace as well.

Gamite
10-11-2004, 07:51 PM
How is your tire wear on your ES100's?

Mystikal
10-11-2004, 07:57 PM
Most guys are getting 15-20k miles out of them, but a few hard drivers are only seeing ~10k.

kontesto
10-12-2004, 12:08 AM
if you want both relatively good price & great handling, try Dunlop FM901 too, I've heard some are rather unhappy with the wearing on the Yoko's ES100 , which are competing with the FM901, I'm extremely satisfy with mine, although they are rated at 200 for trade wear, but have been held up fine with mine with roughly 10k km on it, and auto-x & track days on them too.

I ran Dunlop FM901s, treadwear is like 200 i believe and they puncture and rip like a b*tch. Case in Point: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23692&highlight=tire+ripped+off

Mine ripped as you can see on the 407

KM

Gamite
10-12-2004, 04:03 AM
I ran Dunlop FM901s, treadwear is like 200 i believe and they puncture and rip like a b*tch. Case in Point: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23692&highlight=tire+ripped+off

Mine ripped as you can see on the 407

KM


Holy crap!!!!


http://www.djkontesto.com/tireincident.jpg


I guess those are out of the question

kontesto
10-12-2004, 08:34 AM
yep! I don't advise anyone to get those, and they're loud as hell. I just hope others learn from my experience.

KM

Mystikal
10-12-2004, 11:49 AM
Julian, remember my friend the crazy mexican? The 20" Nitto 555's on his GS400 did the exact same thing as those FM901's, he could smell the smoke as he was going down the DVP and luckily it only fell apart as he was getting off the highway to check it. The tire is still in his girlfriend's garage, scary to look at. :eek:

Gamite
10-12-2004, 01:39 PM
Where is that guy anyways? I miss his crazy antics.

I orderd the Pzero Nero M&S. It has some pretty good reviews, I hope they hold up to them.

kontesto
10-12-2004, 02:35 PM
From what i've heard they are a great tire so I hope they work out for you as well!

Gamite
10-12-2004, 04:03 PM
Thanks, I admit, I'm a little nervous, cuz after all, it IS an "all season" but it has a much stronger sidewall than the kumho, and according to their charts, performs up to par with most ultra high performance summers. I think the sidewall aspect is important due to the weight of my car. But then again, what do I know.. we'll see. They're comming in tomorrow.

Mystikal
10-12-2004, 05:27 PM
Where is that guy anyways? I miss his crazy antics.

I orderd the Pzero Nero M&S. It has some pretty good reviews, I hope they hold up to them.

You really miss him? Haha, fine, I'll bring him to Bimmercruise, but I'm not liable for anything he does.

Glad to hear everything worked out, and I hope the tire I recommended doesn't suck. *shiner*

Gamite
10-12-2004, 05:37 PM
me too man.. I like read every review on tire rack.. apparently the only thing bad with these tires is that they follow some sorta rain grooves? I think they only have those in the states.

Mystikal
10-12-2004, 05:42 PM
Yeah, we don't have them. Only in States with heavy rainfall. It's tramlining, but you'll only notice it in construction areas with the really grooved pavement, the light gray stuff. Still not as bad as the type of road they're talking about though.

Gamite
10-12-2004, 05:54 PM
yea, apparently they're horrible on it, they wobble around n shit.. .. I gotta go research wtf this tramlining is..

Sunapollo
10-12-2004, 06:24 PM
Where did you order the tires gamite and what size ? how much ? Thanks.

Gamite
10-12-2004, 07:51 PM
oh, I just went to wheels direct, $280 ea incl tax n everything.

kontesto
10-12-2004, 11:41 PM
not a bad price

Gamite
10-13-2004, 01:47 AM
Sunapollo: oh, and they're 235 40 18's...

Sunapollo
10-13-2004, 03:11 AM
Sunapollo: oh, and they're 235 40 18's...

Thank you for the info Gamite :) Enjoy your new tires !

WASABI
10-13-2004, 09:11 AM
The sidewalls on my rear continentals (17" M3 rims) have a crack in the same size, who knows how long I drove with it like that, maybe even a track day, yikes. I guess that explains the price tag for these tires, tiretrends lists them at almost $370 each compared to $347 for S-03s, weird.

I've heard good things about the Neros as well. Only one complain was they get noisy as they get close to the wear bar.

Gamite
10-13-2004, 10:17 AM
Not too concerned with noise actually, it has to be louder than my exhaust and my subs.. so shouldn't be too much of a problem.

SeRb
10-13-2004, 12:14 PM
potenzas were on my car for about 4 years, slapped about . . . 110k on them. . .

u might wanna consider those, amazing tread life

i dunno tho i drive a FWD 4banger so im not sure how they'd suit ur car

Gamite
10-13-2004, 03:40 PM
I definately want to try Potenza's, but they're too expensive in canada, I might go down to the states and get them there. Maybe after these tires have gone.

punnzzells
10-13-2004, 04:51 PM
Hankook!

Gamite
10-13-2004, 04:59 PM
I already orderd pirelli's

SeRb
10-14-2004, 08:51 PM
lol got pirellis now. . .

nothing but goodness so far

i dont think ull b dissapointed with the potenzas man, best of luck

Gamite
10-14-2004, 09:05 PM
potenza's are too expensive here, they wanted like $350 or something each.. I want to go down to the states and buy tires there. But bimmercruise is upon us, so gotta get wheels now. I'll see how these are, I got them on now, they're ok.. no complaints so far, they seem to be a bit slippy in the wet. Haven't tried dry yet.

Miguel
10-14-2004, 10:16 PM
oh, I just went to wheels direct, $280 ea incl tax n everything.

Dude, you could have got the Toyo's shipped to your door for less than that *thmbsdwn*

Miguel
10-14-2004, 10:18 PM
Hankook!
You're joking right?

Mystikal
10-14-2004, 10:30 PM
Dude, you could have got the Toyo's shipped to your door for less than that *thmbsdwn*

280 treadwear vs. 420 treadwear.

T1-S' are great tires though (light too, probably a bad thing for the 535), just not what he was looking for.

Gamite
10-15-2004, 01:45 AM
wouldn't have had them in time for bimmercruise.

Gamite
10-15-2004, 01:49 AM
when I first got the car back, I ripped it right out of teh wheels direct lot, and my rear end broke loose, I was like, WTF? These tires suck!! But I guess there was a film on the tires, cuz after driving on the highway for a bit, I can't shake the tail looks anymore. Pretty good tires, descent price, not dissapointed. :)

punnzzells
10-15-2004, 02:27 PM
You're joking right?

What is wrong with Hankooks? I have them on my 6 series, on my E30 and my buddy has them on his //M Roadster.... they should be called

HANHOOK!

Miguel
10-15-2004, 06:22 PM
What is wrong with Hankooks? I have them on my 6 series, on my E30 and my buddy has them on his //M Roadster.... they should be called

HANHOOK!

Are you on drugs?!?

They were the WORST "tires" I've ever driven on. Every day on those tires felt like suicide. Heaven help the poor bastard driving on Hankook's in the rain. When they get wet driving down the street is like taking your bimmer for a lap around Maple Leaf Gardens.

kontesto
10-15-2004, 07:20 PM
hahahahahaha

KM