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Jordan
06-22-2004, 10:08 PM
Well I finally got the car back from paint. When I got off work it was still in the paint booth baking at 140F. The paint is pretty cured.

Car got 2 base coats/3 clear coats. The clear is really nice and deep, minimal orange peel, and a couple sags in the clear. I'd much rather have sags then orange peel :) After I get back from the NW Picnic I will take the car back into the shop and they will fix the sags in the clear for me. (free) After that it will become my daily driver, while the e36 M3 is retired. Prolly in a month or so I will colorsand the entire car, and high speed polish it to a smooth as glass finish.

The rear bumper is just quickly bolted up on the car right now, so don't make any comments about the gap up top. I'm aware ;) It needs to come back off soon so I can paint the diffuser portion of the bumper black. I don't care for how it looks body color at all.

Pictures tell the rest I guess. (15 pics below, 3MB)



http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062204-001.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062204-002.JPG
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Jordan
06-22-2004, 10:08 PM
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062204-009.JPG
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T.Dot_E30
06-22-2004, 10:15 PM
Wasn't the car stripped and painted not to long before.....how come u did it all over again?

Was it bcus of the unpainted parts? or did the first one not come out as good as u wanted.

Quack
06-22-2004, 10:17 PM
looking good, what's next?

Jordan
06-22-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by TrEvOrLiCioS
Wasn't the car stripped and painted not to long before.....how come u did it all over again?

Was it bcus of the unpainted parts? or did the first one not come out as good as u wanted.

The previous paint work, and some of the underlying bodywork I just wasn't happy with. Mainly the shaved door locks, and the shaved side moldings. The bodywork showed.

The paint shop fully warrantied their work, so the respray of the car itself was absolutely free of cost. Can't go wrong there. All the bodywork issues were resolved as well.

As for what's next I'm not really sure. I have to have the car completely reassembled by Saturday morning when I have to leave for the e30 picnic. After that.... I guess its daily driver duty for awhile while I make some more money to do more mods.

Soldo
06-22-2004, 10:27 PM
Car looks good Jordan, and a big relief to see the bumpers colored accordingly!

How bout explaining all these paint terms, i have no idea whats going on, whats the difference between orange peel and sagging, and what exactly is colorsanding!?

Jordan
06-22-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by SOLDOMATIC 325i
How bout explaining all these paint terms, i have no idea whats going on, whats the difference between orange peel and sagging, and what exactly is colorsanding!?

OK, I'd be happy to.

Orange peel is the texture in the clear. Much like the texture of a orange, it is just a result of surface tention over the painted surface. The texture is just about unavoidable with todays automotive urethanes. You can lay the clear on thicker (more coats) to help smooth the orange peel, but you may get sags as a result.

Sag are also known as runs. It's what happens when clear is coated on too thick in one place and the surface tention is broken allowing it to run down the side of the car. I have a couple sags, but they will be fixed. Basicly that involves careful sanding of the sag so it is smooth and even with the clear around it, then polishing it back to a shine.

Colorsanding is a bitch. Basicly you sand the entire surface area of the car with 1200-1500 grit sand paper. This is very demanding of time, and very involving. Once all the sanfing is done the paint is brought back to a smooth as glass shine through a several step high speed polishing. When you see cars at car shows with paint so smooth you would swear it was glass... those have been meticulously color sanded.

Soldo
06-22-2004, 10:57 PM
THANKS for the quick read!!

I was aware of all those, you just used different names, i always get sagging just about whenever i touch anything with a can of paint!!

Paint is confusing as hell i can never understand how SANDING a car will help it come to a better shine after polishing!!


If you don't mind me askin whats a paint job like this run and how long is the car gone for??

Jordan
06-22-2004, 11:54 PM
My car used to be black. It was repainted Lachssilber everywhere. Outside, door jams, interior, trunk, engine bay, you name it. Full and proper color change.

This is what the car looked like in Nov 02 before it went in for the first paint job.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/Media/e30theproject/Pictures/November2002/110402-001.jpg

The first time it got painted inside and out, and everywhere in between, and was in the shop for 2.5 months. I wasn't in a hurry to get it back, so I let them take their time. This most recent time however I was in a rush, and in - out took about 3 weeks.

King Luis
06-23-2004, 12:10 AM
looks friggin awesome
nice job..... what kind of silver is it?

Jordan
06-23-2004, 12:10 AM
e30 BMW color Lachssilber (Salmon Silver)

Soldo
06-23-2004, 02:11 AM
Car looks amazing, and MUCH RESPECT for doing the color change PROPERLY (unlike so many!)

The paint job that lasted 3 weeks, that was pretty much just for a respray?
seems longer than i thought!

///m powered
06-23-2004, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Jordan

Colorsanding is a bitch. Basicly you sand the entire surface area of the car with 1200-1500 grit sand paper. This is very demanding of time, and very involving. Once all the sanfing is done the paint is brought back to a smooth as glass shine through a several step high speed polishing. When you see cars at car shows with paint so smooth you would swear it was glass... those have been meticulously color sanded.


ill second the bitch part on that

had to colour sand jsut my freinds bumpers and fender , and i was whining jsut off of that i cant imagine doin the whole car, ouch.

after clear coating it thogug it looks beautiful :)

SebSter
06-23-2004, 03:06 AM
wow, pure respect to you on that car.. since i went on rev a few times when max was down ur cars all i picture when i think of a perfect e30, the best imo

very nice man

*th-up*

Sylak
06-23-2004, 06:12 AM
Nice color! it clean very clean!
keep up the good work!

bmwm5lover
06-23-2004, 09:12 AM
Very nice looking Jordan! Definitely one of a kind, and keep up the good work. Hopefully i can see some assembled pics after the picnic. O, and Btw, I totally agree about painting the rear bumper diffuser black! It should add some contrast to the car, and match the mouldings. Bang up Job!

Jordan
06-23-2004, 09:19 PM
More pics.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062304-001.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062304-002.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062304-003.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062304-004.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/Backfrompaint/062304-005.JPG

diegom6
06-23-2004, 09:51 PM
I smell turbo for the next big mod....

Orange peel is the texture in the clear. Much like the texture of a orange, it is just a result of surface tention over the painted surface. The texture is just about unavoidable with todays automotive urethanes. You can lay the clear on thicker (more coats) to help smooth the orange peel, but you may get sags as a result.


yeah , that's how in my shopp we paint the car, I mean we left the finish like that, but some friends of mine I always ask them before painting if they want the looks of orange, apple or whatever.

I really like the apple finish more smooth, but factory new cars comes with orange peel finish mostly.

BTW Jordan, I really meant in your crappy forum:D what brand they used in your car, I paint with PPG urethane

Jordan
06-24-2004, 08:42 AM
The paint is PPG urethane.

kylebes1
06-24-2004, 10:39 AM
I am too young I suppose. Being 17 and reading all the stuff you guys do to your cars makes me want to jump, but i should just hold out.

Man that is a great looking car, i love the paint.

How hard it is to redo the underbody sealer?

diegom6
06-24-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Jordan
The paint is PPG urethane.

great choice, is badass that paint!!*th-up*

DanPinder
06-24-2004, 01:02 PM
Now all you need is 19" wheels and a short runner intake. lol

diegom6
06-24-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by DanPinder
Now all you need is 19" wheels and a short runner intake. lol

haha , Dan aproach this oportunity and ask Jordan why he or other mod did that thing to you!:confused:

Jordan
06-24-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by DanPinder
Now all you need is 19" wheels and a short runner intake. lol

For the record Dan, that post had nothing to do with you being banned off R3V. I do not like you, and decided it was time. I haven't liked you since the day you told everyone the free guage printouts I was offering were horrible and they should buy your GuageCo ones instead.

DanPinder
06-24-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Jordan
For the record Dan, that post had nothing to do with you being banned off R3V. I do not like you, and decided it was time. I haven't liked you since the day you told everyone the free guage printouts I was offering were horrible and they should buy your GuageCo ones instead.

Fair enough Jordan, but you shouldn't take it personally. I never had anything against you... it's just business.

We all have to make a living right? Instead of buying kits from me, they were printing out paper ones online.

The gauges I sell are plastic, and yours were printouts. I thought it was a valid point.

You know if you had been mature and talked to me about it, I probably would have sent you a free set.

Anyways... the car looks very clean. Good job. It's good to see a paintjob that is done properly.

suicide
06-24-2004, 07:36 PM
looks great man

///Milk
06-24-2004, 07:53 PM
Car's lookin good, Jordan!!! *th-up*

diegom6
06-24-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Jordan
For the record Dan, that post had nothing to do with you being banned off R3V. I do not like you, and decided it was time. I haven't liked you since the day you told everyone the free guage printouts I was offering were horrible and they should buy your GuageCo ones instead.

common Jordan, be friend of Dan lol! anyways is not by bussines, but I think is not the right way just bann him from your site alwasy he can add some news or stuff done by him and can contribute always. but is your site and you decide what goes and what not goes there...end of the story

mirek
06-26-2004, 09:11 PM
those rims look familiar...

me:

http://www.pifiu.com/vortex/uploads/052004/P1010002.JPG

Boris The Blade
06-27-2004, 08:54 PM
I gotta hand it to you... as much as I'm biting my tongue for what happend with my headliner deal... The car looks great, keep posting pics. *th-up*

DriveItSideways
06-28-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by ///m powered
ill second the bitch part on that

had to colour sand jsut my freinds bumpers and fender , and i was whining jsut off of that i cant imagine doin the whole car, ouch.

after clear coating it thogug it looks beautiful :)



i know what u guys are sayin, it took me 3 days to wet sand and buff my entire car, lots of hard work!! it sux when u burn the paint tho..*wave*

Jordan
06-28-2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Boris The Blade
I gotta hand it to you... as much as I'm biting my tongue for what happend with my headliner deal... The car looks great, keep posting pics. *th-up*

*th-up*

Here are some parked and rolling on the highway shots for people to drooool over.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav07.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav10.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav04.JPG
(tucking in the back because i downshifted to 3rd and punched it as the photo was snapped)
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav03.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav01.JPG

mirek
06-28-2004, 07:41 PM
looks like "Bubbles" is driving this car..


:eek:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/Images/PicnicFavs/Fav07.JPG

Mystikal
06-28-2004, 09:09 PM
The absolute best combination to me. Plastic bumpers, smaller tails, higher rear fender. What an '88 really should have been, they changed the exact wrong parts.

Keep up the good work man.

jeremy
06-28-2004, 09:52 PM
looks titties....the rims are even growing on me *th-up*

Sylak
06-29-2004, 01:50 PM
Except for the carbone fiber hood ( i prefer color mathing hood :-) ! Damn! nice car really! I even like clear!, i dont like clear taillight, but yours are color matching and it really give a nive touch. *th-up*

diegom6
06-29-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Sylak
Except for the carbone fiber hood ( i prefer color mathing hood :-) ! Damn! nice car really! I even like clear!, i dont like clear taillight, but yours are color matching and it really give a nive touch. *th-up*

I agree with you on that, the CF hood in it's own shape looks badass, but doesn't match the paint , looks a bit rice for me

johnoz
06-29-2004, 03:34 PM
Jeremy

Aside from the quality of Mille Miglia wheels in general, those look great on e30s. They give the car somewhat what I call 'Porsche look'.

They also have darker ones which might look good on red.

Get a 5 spoke rim that is clean yet sporty.

The ones you are considering in my opinion too have too much detail.

PS: Jordan, what kind of bumper moldings will you be fitting? The car still looks incomplete.

CF hood to my eye only looks good on black coloured cars.

Nice job regardless. Post more pics once complete.

Originally posted by jeremy
looks titties....the rims are even growing on me *th-up*

punnzzells
06-30-2004, 05:53 PM
Who did the paint work on that car and how much???

Mike

T.Dot_E30
06-30-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by diegom6
looks a bit rice for me

whats with u ppl? u guys call rice for anything these days....

who knows maybe he has a painted hood, and uses the cf for when he needs to save weight

Jordan
06-30-2004, 06:20 PM
FYI. Cost of the CF hood is less then the cost of a new OEM hood and paint. That was pretty much the deciding factor for me.

The bling bling looks, and weight savings are nice too.

A local shop here in town did the paint work, bill in total came to just over $3,400 USD

AmaRu
06-30-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Jordan
paint work, bill in total came to just over $3,400 USD

:eek: ur paint is worth more than my car...O...and give me ur spoiler :mad:

Mystikal
07-01-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by TrEvOrLiCioS
whats with u ppl? u guys call rice for anything these days....

Because it was a style originally made popular by the Japanese tuners. Pretty simple.

Note I still love it, and will likely pick one up for my car soon enough (weight savings over the front axle + good looks sounds good to me).