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AMG_POWER
06-06-2004, 03:54 PM
http://members.roadfly.org/jason2/auto704.jpg

*mw*

Understated
06-06-2004, 04:02 PM
sexy

SpoolinS6
06-06-2004, 04:13 PM
DIRTAY ! *drool*

qimis
06-06-2004, 04:30 PM
M O N S T E R !

Quack
06-06-2004, 04:34 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmm..............V8 Me like *mw*

HooliGaN*
06-06-2004, 04:55 PM
i cant wait to see that


omg its going 2 be so sick

Soldo
06-06-2004, 05:38 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed, that all the new M's are only producing 100hp/L?? Whats the deal with this?? It seems thats all BMW is capable of, so they're just increasing the displacement, and the power is actually decreasing, cause the CURRENT M3's have more than 100hp/L correct???

i mean 4L with 400 hp isn't TOO impressive!

Mystikal
06-06-2004, 05:54 PM
It's called reliability.

///MAC
06-06-2004, 06:02 PM
THAT LOOKS DMAN SOLID MAN, cant wait for it to come out

tlaselva
06-06-2004, 06:08 PM
Looking good!

Ci to cylinder ratio would tell you it's the same engine as the V10 M5, with 2 less cylinders. Should have the same rev limit as the V10. Torque would likely be about 300 ft. lbs.

The most important factor for the M3 is weight though.
The E46 has become too heavy for the people looking for the ultimate drivers car.
BMW's plan to create two versions, including the CSL is promising in the way that the CSL is built for the driving purist, and the regular version is created for the general mass.

Build an M3 at about 3000 lbs., with 400 HP V8, SMGII, keep in under 100G's, and I'll likely be back in a M3! *th-up*

Soldo
06-06-2004, 06:13 PM
Reliability doesn't have much to do with it, they've been able to pull it off with the E46 M3, so why wouldn't they be able to pull it off with the new M's! Honda's been doing for quite some time now, and whens the last time you've heard of an unreliable honda!

M3speed
06-06-2004, 06:18 PM
sick !!!!

A~G
06-06-2004, 06:37 PM
Guess i'm the only one who thinks the current M3 looks 100X better than the one in that picture :puke:

Soldo
06-06-2004, 07:04 PM
Nah, i agree, this one is nasty in comparison to the E46 M's!

And why is it that this car looks VERY similar to the E46 m3? Look at the E30 M and the E36 M, totally different, same with the E36 and the E46, but this new one and the E46 are so similar, theres hardly any changes, even the bumpers are the same, but with 'edge'!

Rolled_Out
06-06-2004, 08:45 PM
Im saving up already. ! lol

///Milk
06-06-2004, 08:52 PM
nice..they better have diff rims

DrunkFuX
06-06-2004, 09:18 PM
it's getting 'cutier'... *mumble*

bmwm5lover
06-06-2004, 09:55 PM
SEX ON WHEELS

Betray
06-06-2004, 10:07 PM
Soldo, 400hp out of 4l isnt impressive??
I think it is. Ferrari does it with 3.6l, but remember, it is ferrari which is a weekend car, M3 is a daily driver, and it cost 2 times less.

I think 400hp is VERY impressive.

And what do you mean honda does it?
The only honda that got 100+ per liter is S2K which is 109hp per liter right now and has a major lack of torque. NSX is just 290hp out of 3.2l.

And it is all about hp per tonn, not hp per liter, so power in fact is increasing.

Mystikal
06-07-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by SOLDOMATIC 325i
Reliability doesn't have much to do with it, they've been able to pull it off with the E46 M3, so why wouldn't they be able to pull it off with the new M's! Honda's been doing for quite some time now, and whens the last time you've heard of an unreliable honda!

You're obviously being ignorant to the many issues BMW has had to deal with on the S54 engine. It's an extremely complicated powerplant that has faced its share of problems. Who knows how much they have dished out with regards to warranty repairs (airborne pistons are not fun).

Yes Honda has been doing it for quite some time. Those are small displacement 4-cylinders. The NSX has never been over 90hp/L. When you have more parts moving, you simply can't have the drivetrain working so quickly and achieve acceptable traffic-worthy reliability, driveability, and maintenance fees.

mkgino
06-07-2004, 01:18 AM
dildo, stfu. Nothing can please u. Your just like a bitch on her rag.

ROCKETMAN
06-07-2004, 01:26 AM
As they say: no replacement for displacement!*th-up*

Betray
06-07-2004, 01:31 AM
Yeah, exactly it is one thing getting hp out of smaller engine, then out of a bigget engine.

Perfect example are bikes, they got small engines and 160hp per liter, you can rev the fu<b></b>ck out of it, so it produces HP.
With bigger engines it is harder.

Soldo
06-07-2004, 02:56 AM
I think its nothing too special, its not much of an increase from the current M's!

Gamite
06-07-2004, 04:43 AM
Considering the current M5 is 5L = 400HP, I would say its pretty damn good.

Personally, I love the new look, going back to the angled design like the E36. Boxy = Sexy

Soldo
06-07-2004, 05:37 AM
Ya, the look is ALRIGHT, cause i also think its somewhat going back to the E36 root, however, i just don't like the fact how its not changing much, sorta looks like an E46 M3 with an outrageous body kit on it, it has the SAME front bumper still, and thats kinda getting boring, but thats just MY OPINION!

The, E30, 36, and 46 were all so different from eachother, and now all these newer ones are stealing the same body work from the current m's, like the side grills!

Manimillion
06-07-2004, 05:49 AM
So what will Hartge do to this one? Stuff a V12 in it?

tifosi
06-07-2004, 06:43 AM
dont' really understand why people try to over-analyse a computer generated image so much...

SkycityBMW
06-07-2004, 04:07 PM
Looks . . . .sweet . . . . Need to break open the piggy bank on this one . . .

Ryousuke
06-07-2004, 08:02 PM
Is it just me or they try to make BMW look more Asian style by streching out teh lights :\.....

burnhard88
06-08-2004, 03:35 AM
what a beast!!!

*uzi*

328is_Perf
06-09-2004, 01:57 AM
im not liking the design ...hood is too sloppy and round...too luxurious rather than sporty..

and the idea of a v8 in the traditional inline 6 line isnt too impressive either... maybe its just me ... but i'll stick to E36 maybe E46...

ROCKETMAN
06-09-2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by 328is_Perf
...hood is too sloppy and round...

Sloppy, Round???

T5Man
06-09-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Betray

And what do you mean honda does it?
The only honda that got 100+ per liter is S2K which is 109hp per liter right now and has a major lack of torque.

And it is all about hp per tonn, not hp per liter, so power in fact is increasing.

actually... S2k is a 2.0L 240 hp so its 120hp/litre...and that is the beauty of the s2k is its efficiency of the engine. And it also agrees to your 'hp/tonne' if you can imagine the light weight of a 2.0 litre engine.

Now i'm not saying 100hp/L out of the BMW engine is bad i'm just adding that its not always about hp/tonne. otherwise why not just do like the americans and build big huge displacement muscle cars only to achieve little gain? On another note, they'll be huge gas guzzlers as well..

my 2 cents.

Gamite
06-09-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by T5Man
actually... S2k is a 2.0L 240 hp so its 120hp/litre...and that is the beauty of the s2k is its efficiency of the engine. And it also agrees to your 'hp/tonne' if you can imagine the light weight of a 2.0 litre engine.

Now i'm not saying 100hp/L out of the BMW engine is bad i'm just adding that its not always about hp/tonne. otherwise why not just do like the americans and build big huge displacement muscle cars only to achieve little gain? On another note, they'll be huge gas guzzlers as well..

my 2 cents.

They had to increase displacement on teh new S2k's so that it doesn't have to rev as high.

T5Man
06-09-2004, 03:10 PM
oh yeah the new ones... the 2.2 litres now... those sound like shit..

but still the older s2k's were impressive still...

tlaselva
06-09-2004, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by T5Man
otherwise why not just do like the americans and build big huge displacement muscle cars only to achieve little gain? On another note, they'll be huge gas guzzlers as well..

Gas Guzzlers?
Compare the EPA ratings for the Z06, E46 M3, and the Honda S2000. You're in for a rude awakening.....:D

theNoiseJava
06-09-2004, 09:15 PM
copied from autotrader.com, this is for 2004 models


Z06
Hwy. Mileage 28 mpg City Mileage 19 mpg

M3
Hwy. Mileage 24 mpg City Mileage 16 mpg

s2000
Hwy. Mileage 25 mpg City Mileage 20 mpg


surprised me

DrunkFuX
06-09-2004, 10:01 PM
can't wait to see the M6 :D

Jon@Bimmersport
06-09-2004, 10:39 PM
i agree with tlaselva..i guess people still think muscle cars are like the old skool ones, with big barrel carbs which are real gas guzzlers...its all driving style...you can make a honda civic a gas guzzler if u wanted to..