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bmwm5lover
03-30-2004, 07:08 PM
Should i go OEM or not?
What brands do u guys recommend, and prices would be nice!

Slowered318
03-30-2004, 07:09 PM
Don't use anything but the Bosch plugs!

bmwm5lover
03-30-2004, 07:11 PM
are the CT Bosch plugs OK?

Slowered318
03-30-2004, 07:16 PM
I doubt they have the right ones..

also don't buy platnum plugs! just regular single electrode bosch plugs. call around car parts stores for one that supply bosch.

Canadian tire is the worst place to go for german car parts.. they only know domestic cars

chromius
03-30-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Slowered318
I doubt they have the right ones..

also don't buy platnum plugs! just regular single electrode bosch plugs. call around car parts stores for one that supply bosch.

Canadian tire is the worst place to go for german car parts.. they only know domestic cars

why not the platinum?

BMW_M52_M20
03-30-2004, 08:32 PM
I replaced mine with OEM plugs, my mechanic recommened it.
Jay

jps
03-30-2004, 08:33 PM
Whats wrong with NGK irridum?

They are great in my car and they last ages!

Mystikal
03-30-2004, 09:00 PM
As Ryan said, STAY WITH THE BOSCH ORIGINAL. The +2, +4, etc. actually cause power loss. Get the OEM ones.

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 10:32 PM
I use NGKs on everything I've ever owned, whts wrong with NGK?

Slowered318
03-30-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by MorningCruiser
I use NGKs on everything I've ever owned, whts wrong with NGK?

everything in the car is bosch.. the enging management, the sensors, why stop at the spark plugs just to save 0.50 or whatever.. NGK is ok too.. they use these in the newer bmw's i believe.. but i would stick with what belongs on the car.

YAY BOSCH!

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 10:40 PM
NGK = more expensive than Bosch, lol.

If I ever wanted to turbo I'd only trust NGK, at least then I can go up a heat level easily...

Slowered318
03-30-2004, 10:47 PM
ya well here in ONTARIO.. we do things differently :)

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 10:59 PM
Yeah, like rust under your seats :P

tuNED318
03-30-2004, 11:03 PM
I got platinum +2 and I'm going to put my original ones back in right now to see if there is a difference

Originally posted by MorningCruiser
Yeah, like rust under your seats :P

ROFL :D



;)

windsor318is
03-30-2004, 11:15 PM
um..... how is there power loss with the +4, just curious?? ive been paying double the price for nothing...

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 11:24 PM
Doesn't make sense to me...

felixthecat
03-30-2004, 11:26 PM
heres the ones ive tried in my 318i..
bosch platinum +4(ctc)
ngk iridium(ctc)
regular bosch v(ctc)
splitfire(walmart)
the splitfires worked really good for about 10 000k,then seemed to suck...but for the best performance and fuel economy,the standard bosch ones from ctc are the best....had em in there forever...

felixthecat
03-30-2004, 11:28 PM
and the +4's are fckn useless...not enough spark..

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 11:37 PM
Er, get a hotter one plug...?

BMW_M52_M20
03-30-2004, 11:39 PM
Weird the e36 came stock with a 4 pronged NGK plug.......The e30, single prong.

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 11:45 PM
:D See, NGK :D haha

felixthecat
03-30-2004, 11:49 PM
shut up about ngk..they suck ass..dont be a cheapskate..get german plugs for your german car...jesus...

MorningCruiser
03-30-2004, 11:49 PM
Er, NGK is more than Bosch is out here? :confused:

BMW_M52_M20
03-30-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by felixthecat
shut up about ngk..they suck ass..dont be a cheapskate..get german plugs for your german car...jesus...

Uhh, NGK was the stock plug that came in my car.......

tuNED318
03-30-2004, 11:57 PM
Well I did my little experience, and my old CHAMPION(these were on when I bought the car:rolleyes: ) sparkplugs seem to be way better than my Bosch plat +2:confused:

bosch +2 = total rip off *thmbsdwn*

can't wait to get standard bosch!

felixthecat
03-31-2004, 12:19 AM
this is a pointless arguement i think....it all comes down to personal preferences...bosch products are top quality thats all i know....its like argueing about what oil is the best....id say mobil 1...anything german is quality.....it just seems that bmw engines like standard eletrode plugs..nothing fancy..*wiggle*


ps:when i bought my car it still had the european bosch *green* plugs in it...has anyone else seen these old plugs?

tuNED318
03-31-2004, 12:28 AM
forgot to add that my car seems to push harder with single electrode plugs.
Bosch is a great company for sure but maybe their plat+2, +4 plugs aren't good for our cars.

I wouldn't say its a matter of taste when you ask which brand is the best. Its like asking what is better BMW or Lada? For sure some are going to prefer Lada because they don't need a BMW, but overall performance/quality wise BMW is better.
Same thing for oil or anything, it depends of what you need but that doesn't mean there isn't a more performant and better quality one...

edit: I didn't mean that Bosch is crap, but that Bosch multiple electrodes plugs don't suit our cars :)

Slowered318
03-31-2004, 12:49 AM
shut up you fools

get bosch regular plugs.. and "morning cruizer" here is a nickel.. now lick my balls!

T.Dot_E30
03-31-2004, 12:57 AM
here is what i got from bmwe30.net

Make sure you use original Bosch "Silver" plugs in your e30. The platinum ones are less expensive for sure but the problem is they are just too forgiving. They mask engine problems that you otherwise might miss. Your e30 will just run better too.

here is the link.

BMW_M52_M20
03-31-2004, 01:05 AM
Use whatever came stock in your bimmer. If there was some better brand that would give better performance, BMW would have used it.

MorningCruiser
03-31-2004, 01:09 AM
I'm sure what BMW used varies year to year... Not every year, but some years...

felixthecat
03-31-2004, 01:12 AM
fck it...convert it to diesel....wanna argue about what kind of glow plugs to use????????

Slowered318
03-31-2004, 01:14 AM
well i donno.. i heard BMWF1 went from using NGK to Bosch.. and he went from 90 to 93 hp

MorningCruiser
03-31-2004, 01:16 AM
Personal experience made NGK the choice for me with the Fiero.

I couldn't get the temperature of the spark that I wanted from Bosch, it was either too hot or too cold, and then I went with NGK and got the temp I wanted on my second try...

However, while the BMW is factory, it will get bosch plugs.

crusher
03-31-2004, 01:33 AM
i had platinum +4 on my old e36 M3 it was running really good. Single crank and go :)

:D
http://www.bmwgarage.net/albums/Oct262003-morning/aad.sized.jpg

chromius
03-31-2004, 02:19 AM
problem is the silvers seem to be hard to find...the only ones I found were the single electrode platinum.:confused:

I used to use NGK in my Honda and they worked great but With the bimmer I stick to Bosch....use what works best for the car and the application *th-up*

gsbadbmr
03-31-2004, 02:54 PM
W8LCR'S are the BEST spark plugs for the M20's.

-gsbadbmr

AndreNY
03-31-2004, 03:36 PM
regular BOSH are the best

PLATINUM is the biggest GARBAGE in teh world, do not USE Platinums your car will run like SHIT and you';; pay 3 times more for the plugs

BMW_M52_M20
03-31-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by AndreNY
regular BOSH are the best

PLATINUM is the biggest GARBAGE in teh world, do not USE Platinums your car will run like SHIT and you';; pay 3 times more for the plugs

That may be true for th e30, but my e36 ran very very nicely with the platinum plugs in.
Jay

MorningCruiser
03-31-2004, 05:07 PM
Finding Bosch Silvers is a pain in the ass, and I'd rather not order them for $8.50 a spark plug :P

And who said their BMW came with green spark plugs? My lawnmower uses Bosch greens :D

Skunk#1
04-01-2004, 12:23 AM
most of the platinum's work well in chevy 350's. also cars with higher compression (ie m3's anything over 10/1) ratios with high output coils (ignition). but the thing i dont understand, why would you run a plug that takes half the spark away or 4 times the spark away. this is the argument, if you have one electrode that gets all the power its spark will be hotter and stronger. but if you take the +2 and have stock ignition then you just decreased the spark, and even further decreased it if you used the +4. unless you run extreme high performance coil packs or race ignitions than whatever stock or equivalent will work best. just remember the higher the compression the more dense the mixture also the more heat, the harder it is to get the spark to jump the electrode. the more spark the hotter, the worst it is for your pistons. yes you can get different heat ranges but unless you really know what your doing you might be doing more harm than good, like trying to burn a hole in your piston or burning a valve. some people say that you can run a colder one in the summer and run a warmer one in the winter, i personally think that is crap. the thermostat controls the heating issues. my dirt bikes give recomended plugs for different driving styles (continuous high speeds, normal use, and under 40 degrees F) but they are not different heat ranges. they are different continuities, meaning how well they flow electricity. i had some crap plugs in the car when i bought it and the check engine light kept comming on and saying it was the o2 sensor. i changed to stock plugs and have never had the light come back on.