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djtbster
03-25-2004, 03:08 AM
aight guys im looking into getting GC coilovers for me 325e

i got a price for $569 can for the ground control coilovers

and $679 for a sebring cat-back exhaust

are these good prices or atleast decent

Mystikal
03-25-2004, 03:18 AM
The prices are pretty good, local I assume?

Although I'd prefer to speak with GC directly, that way you can spec what rates and lengths you would like.

M50E30
03-25-2004, 04:32 AM
Don't waist your money on the Ground Controll coilover sleeve kit. Save your money and get a real coilover kit like the FK Konigsport.

The Konigsport kit comes with hight and dampening adjustable shocks, adjustable springs, and new front strut tubes (the only down side is needing new front hubs and bearings).

Dave

Tunerworks
03-25-2004, 01:08 PM
Give us a try for the Ground Control kits. We have great prices and can do any spring specs you want. We have sold lots of GC kits to Canadian customers and have a good idea what spring rates work on our nasty roads! We also carry the full FK line :) Can probably help you with the Sebring too.

Rob

Mystikal
03-25-2004, 02:20 PM
Damn Rob, I never thought of you guys. I'd definitely go through the Canadian route, if not only to support a northern business, to save on the outrageous duty fees.

burtonownz
03-25-2004, 02:49 PM
I don't mean to jack the thread but M50E30 what do you mean by saying "coilover sleeve kit?" Are these the same as the single adjustable Koni/Eibach in this link? (http://www.ground-control.com/?D=88e79e2485b8d2b76ff100ac477b054b)

M50E30
03-25-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by burtonownz
I don't mean to jack the thread but M50E30 what do you mean by saying "coilover sleeve kit?" Are these the same as the single adjustable Koni/Eibach in this link? (http://www.ground-control.com/?D=88e79e2485b8d2b76ff100ac477b054b)

Is it the same as the FK Konigsport (pic below)...no. FK is a whole strut assembly not just an overpriced sleeve kit.

http://www.fk-automotive.com/images/produkte/FKKKBM11.jpg

aaron_silva
03-25-2004, 09:15 PM
m50e30- What is the rear setup of the FK? If it doesnt require a full weld in roll cage, I would imagine it being identicle to the GC setup (threaded sleeve with adjustable perch). Also, GC in conjunction with Advance Design (Ground Control product) shocks or Koni's, with give you the same advantage as you said. Height adjustability and damping adjustability. You also have your choice of spring rates. I am not saying that FK isnt a good product, but GC is great for the money and will perform with some of the best suspensions.

Remeber, when you "dampen" something, it means you are getting someting wet.

Aaron

aaron_silva
03-25-2004, 09:17 PM
Your picture confirms my prediction.

How is GC overpriced?

Aaron

Mystikal
03-25-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by aaron_silva
Your picture confirms my prediction.

How is GC overpriced?

Aaron

The only difference I see is a shiny new strut tube.

Like you said, if you can dial in spring rates, lengths, and dampening, what else do you need? It's quality built, easy to use, and I can't say I've seen a solid complaint from an owner.

M50E30
03-25-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by aaron_silva
Your picture confirms my prediction.

How is GC overpriced?

Aaron

Yes the rear is almost the same but look at the front. Would you trust a sleeve kit in an emergency/highspeed situation.

Well not me. I know it is my opinion but thats how I feel.

And there are other coilover sleeve kits out there like OBX for half the price.

Mystikal
03-25-2004, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by M50E30
Would you trust a sleeve kit in an emergency/highspeed situation.

Why wouldn't you?

Lil'Smoothie
03-25-2004, 09:36 PM
And there are other coilover sleeve kits out there like OBX for half the price.

You don't trust GC than there is no way you can trust OBX on an e30 with all that cutting and welding

aaron_silva
03-25-2004, 09:37 PM
How are my modified struts unsafe. The are identicle to the FK's minus the ricey polish. And they look alot more beefy than the picture you posted. And yes, I would trust these in any situation.

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=272122

That is just my opinion.

Aaron

M50E30
03-25-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Lil'Smoothie
You don't trust GC than there is no way you can trust OBX on an e30 with all that cutting and welding

Kevin,

I had OBX coilovers but never installed them. I don't trust them one bit and buy the way i'm saving up for a FK Konigsport kit...and some new tires.

burtonownz
03-25-2004, 10:10 PM
M50E30, do you happen to have any particular reason that you, "don't trust them one bit?"

I'm just curious as I'll be needing to get opinions on what everyone likes for suspension components...

And aaron_silva, do you happen to have pictures of the GC suspension on your car?

Thanks guys.

aaron_silva
03-25-2004, 11:44 PM
Here is the rear...
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=272127

This is the stance...
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=272129

windsor318is
03-26-2004, 01:30 AM
aaron, just curious what exactly do you need to modify on the front struts??? and are the shocks dampining adjustable??

aaron_silva
03-26-2004, 01:56 AM
Windsor, everything comes with the kit. Basically, you have to cut the original perch off at the weld, slip the GC perch on and re-weld it. Since GC is a short drive away from me, I had them do it. I will find some pictures for you.

The koni's are rebound adjustable, I believe.

HTH.

Aaron

Mystikal
03-26-2004, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by windsor318is
aaron, just curious what exactly do you need to modify on the front struts??? and are the shocks dampining adjustable??

The stock perches need to be removed and the GC ones fitted. If you get Koni SA's (the best match) they are adjustable.

Mystikal
03-26-2004, 01:57 AM
Beat me to the punch by a minute.

aaron_silva
03-26-2004, 02:00 AM
Here is a picture of the stuff. The 45mm adapter is for early e30's (different diameter strut housing).

http://cesium.cs.jmu.edu/huntwc/images/gc/Parts.jpg

HTH

Aaron

Lil'Smoothie
03-26-2004, 02:57 AM
I had OBX coilovers but never installed them. I don't trust them one bit and buy the way i'm saving up for a FK Konigsport kit...and some new tires.

Fair enough