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jordan325
03-16-2004, 01:23 AM
I'm curious how hard it would be to flip an e30, non modded, say a standard 325.

How quick would you have to go on dry pavement corning for it to flip?

i've heard the old e30s have better cornering then the new 3 series as the newer are lighter.. doesn't make sense to me though. My 325es leans alot!

Thanks guys..

MorningCruiser
03-16-2004, 01:30 AM
Err, a lot less than a Fiero... haha not a single rolled Fiero in history.

Regardless, I'd call it at about 50-60.

I hope it's more than 40, cause my Durango does that and doesn't lift a wheel :D

bmdoubleya
03-16-2004, 01:50 AM
The 325 is near impossible to flip I know from my many near death experiences with it.:eek:

MorningCruiser
03-16-2004, 02:42 AM
Note to self:

Stay far from bmdoubleya...

BMW BMXer
03-16-2004, 03:10 AM
Take a corner. Slide off into grass have the two outside wheels catch in the grass.

Have fun.

BimmerKris
03-16-2004, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by MorningCruiser
Err, a lot less than a Fiero... haha not a single rolled Fiero in history.

Regardless, I'd call it at about 50-60.

I hope it's more than 40, cause my Durango does that and doesn't lift a wheel :D

Feiro's are brutal I had one and some dick wrote it off. Insurance let me keep it so i duct taped the whole car back together then would drive into walls, and the post that protected the gas pumps, anything i could find. Then i blew the trannie when i got stuck in a snow trench.

The best thing about it was the $700 i sold it for


nice



Oh ya i ripped my dropped E30 to a 90 degree turn at 125kph with the winter tires. The back end broke loose in a big way, but i saved it. There was not a lot of body roll and i don't have a strut tower bar. Just lowered 2.5in. But that makes a pretty big difference

Slowered318
03-16-2004, 03:56 AM
i donno.. never heard of one rolling?

why don't you crank the wheel at about umm 150 and see what happens.. i bet i would just fish tail

NOTORIOUS VR
03-16-2004, 04:39 AM
It's not like it's an SUV... Car's in general are hard to flip unless you're a real jerk about it... They have a fairly low center of gravity...

I'd say, unless you're sliding really fast and have your tires catch on something, that's all you'll do... slide.

blacknblue-e30
03-16-2004, 05:33 AM
go jump in a 325 .. flip it.. then come back and post what number you hit and how hard you turned..... and for personal interest, how many times you flipped!

hehe PLEASE DO NOT TRY AT HOME

:)

felixthecat
03-16-2004, 08:10 AM
a hard side to side might do it......i think the condition of the struts would have something to do with it too....once they get old....they really lean....

NOTORIOUS VR
03-16-2004, 12:26 PM
^^^ Even then... I don't think I'd be possible... I guess if your shocks were reallly worn, and you have some really bad weight transfer and you are going fast enough then ya... I guess it "could" be done.

But then, you should be driving a car in that condition.

In road safe car, it's almost impossible to flip unless you hit something.

SebSter
03-16-2004, 04:35 PM
erm... who remembers that video of a 325i touring at a media press release...where they're showing off what the car can do and the driver flips it by accident, wasnt that with an e30?

NOTORIOUS VR
03-16-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by SebSter
erm... who remembers that video of a 325i touring at a media press release...where they're showing off what the car can do and the driver flips it by accident, wasnt that with an e30?

but the tires must have hooked onto something, or the driver did something very wrong...

I'm not sayin it's impossible to flip a car.. but it's not exactly easy...

bmdoubleya
03-16-2004, 07:11 PM
NOh ya i ripped my dropped E30 to a 90 degree turn at 125kph with the winter tires. The back end broke loose in a big way, but i saved it. There was not a lot of body roll and i don't have a strut tower bar. Just lowered 2.5in. But that makes a pretty big difference


:eek: No one has any reply to this:eek:

I am sorry but this seems:rolleyes:

My 325 which has every possible suspension mod with $1000 racing tires can not do 125km in a 90 degree

I did once try a 90 degree at 100km and it was freaky.

I am sorry to say I think your exagerating:)

EuroSpectacle
03-16-2004, 08:26 PM
yah i say 125 is a tad exageration especially on winters... but he said he lost it.. so he redeemed himself sorta... with my 88 325is.. i took a 90 degree at 80 and held the same speed coming out... i was literally an inch from the curb to whole way around.. have the video somwhere... but not on winters.. michelin pilots :P

EuroSpectacle
03-16-2004, 08:28 PM
just thought id add .. it was 90 degrees... but its one of those curving things.. almost big enough for a transport but on a residential street

rwh11385
03-16-2004, 08:48 PM
One of the members of my CCA flipped his E30 325i at the track, but I think he was on some R-compounds maybe.

bmdoubleya
03-16-2004, 09:04 PM
I think it's funny how no one ever belives that the e30 is capable of such thing's :cool: I mean how it can take a 90 degree at 100km

BimmerKris
03-16-2004, 10:37 PM
the car did it. it pushed like a bastard into the corner, caught for a bit then went all squirly. Yes it scared the shit out of me, and was really dumb, but seemed like a good idea at the time. I did it on a highway turn off onto an industrial road. Anyone from Edmonton might know of the road turning into Morinville from highway 2.

How fast has anyone from Edmonton gone through groat road. I stayed at 110 in my old 318 with no sus. mods but my 17 in tires. it held pretty good, any faster and it probably would have pushed into the wall.

MorningCruiser
03-16-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by EuroSpectacle
just thought id add .. it was 90 degrees... but its one of those curving things.. almost big enough for a transport but on a residential street

Err, so it's a really long 90* then?

My Durango can do those at 80-90. Makes you grow hair on your ass, but it can do it.

I'd say slamming any car that IS NOT right against the ground back and forth 10x at 100km/h would do it :D Fieros qualify as right against the ground.

That 4.5" factory clearance thing is kinda, obvious, haha.

BimmerKris
03-17-2004, 01:44 AM
Err, so it's a really long 90* then?

no it is a small industrial road off of a major highway. Kind of like a range road or a gravel road that turns off the highway. 1 lane either way not much of shoulder. Short turning lane, maybe 50ft


why am i getting caught up in this again?

King Luis
03-17-2004, 03:34 AM
so the road is a tight 90* like turning right at a red light?????
or a 90* light turning left at a red light

BimmerKris
03-17-2004, 04:15 AM
yeah turnin like right at a red light, but makin the most of the intersection

gsbadbmr
03-17-2004, 03:44 PM
..............*th-up*

BMW BMXer
03-17-2004, 04:44 PM
Acutally theres a video of a guy tipping it over farther than that.. then landing right back on the wheels.