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hammoj28
02-19-2004, 09:09 PM
I am in the process of modifying an E30 316i. So far it has a 3ltr straight 6 engine and an m- tech 2 kit.

I have a lot more to do to it including a full respray in black, lowering, 17" alpina alloys, race recliner seats, custom powerflow exhaust and much more. At the moment I don't have any pics but I'll load some up sometime when I can and when I have done something new.

By the way does anyone know what colour black is best for an E30, iam thinking black from the new Nissans ?

diegom6
02-20-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
I am in the process of modifying an E30 316i. So far it has a 3ltr straight 6 engine and an m- tech 2 kit.

I have a lot more to do to it including a full respray in black, lowering, 17" alpina alloys, race recliner seats, custom powerflow exhaust and much more. At the moment I don't have any pics but I'll load some up sometime when I can and when I have done something new.

By the way does anyone know what colour black is best for an E30, iam thinking black from the new Nissans ?

talking a bou thte black tone for e30s I think the best and hottnes color(black) for our E30s is the DiamantSchwartz

Sylak
02-20-2004, 07:11 PM
Black Rulez! i love my black E30 héhé :-)

hammoj28
03-20-2004, 07:08 PM
I got some pics for ya. Recently I found out that the engine might be a 2.8 but I ain't positive. The bodywork looks shabby but is actually in really good condition. I will keep updating the pics as I do stuff to it. Could anybody tell me what the pipes are coming out of the side of the inlet manifold. I've never seen them on other engines before.

hammoj28
03-20-2004, 07:09 PM
Side view.

hammoj28
03-20-2004, 07:11 PM
Front.

hammoj28
03-20-2004, 07:12 PM
Another of engine.

hammoj28
03-21-2004, 10:51 PM
The lights and everything have been taken off becaus ethe car is going to be sprayed.

hammoj28
03-21-2004, 10:53 PM
The body kit is not properly fitted and the back bumper has just been hung on for the photo.

hammoj28
03-21-2004, 11:00 PM
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hammoj28
03-21-2004, 11:07 PM
Hope to put race recliners, race steering wheel, gear nob, handbrake, peadls, chequer footwells, rear rollcage, fire extinguisher etc.

MorningCruiser
03-21-2004, 11:24 PM
I thought the 3l was the M3 motor? And I'm quite sure it doesn't look like that (M50)...

hammoj28
03-21-2004, 11:28 PM
Yeah when I got the car I was told that it was a 3.0 but then someone told me it was a 2.8. I don't really know what to think. Did you notice the pipes coming out of the side of the inlet manifold?? Do you know what they are?? I think it is possible that the guy who put the engine in changed the inlet manifold but i'm not sure.

MorningCruiser
03-21-2004, 11:39 PM
That's an M20 intake manifold I think (I don't know much about bmw engines, hahaha)

Which would suggest it's a factory M20 325...

felixthecat
03-21-2004, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
I got some pics for ya. Recently I found out that the engine might be a 2.8 but I ain't positive. The bodywork looks shabby but is actually in really good condition. I will keep updating the pics as I do stuff to it. Could anybody tell me what the pipes are coming out of the side of the inlet manifold. I've never seen them on other engines before. it says the size on the exhaust side of the head...at the front

diegom6
03-22-2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
I got some pics for ya. Recently I found out that the engine might be a 2.8 but I ain't positive. The bodywork looks shabby but is actually in really good condition. I will keep updating the pics as I do stuff to it. Could anybody tell me what the pipes are coming out of the side of the inlet manifold. I've never seen them on other engines before.

well, that's a ETA engine for sure, dunno if the head, for the all the tube coil position, AFM and filter box and buch of vaccum hoses it's defently a ETA...but that intake manifold looks like from some M20b25 or 325i

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 05:16 PM
What do you mean by ETA?? Thanks for the help guys.

diegom6
03-22-2004, 06:48 PM
ETA is the 6 cyl Torquey engine famyli, but it doesn'r ev too much, how much says your tach, I mean wich is tha max rpm in yours, should be arround 4-5K RPM.

the engine is a 2.7L instead of a 2.5L

check this page.... Strictly ETA (http://www.strictlyeta.net/index.html) *th-up*

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 08:08 PM
My tach redlines at around 6k RPM but that might be because it is maybe still the 316i tachometre.

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 08:41 PM
Is this bracket how you tell it is an ETA.

diegom6
03-22-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
Is this bracket how you tell it is an ETA. Not exactly, but in part yes, even more than that, you can see many vaccum hoses above that plate, check my sig, I don't have all that bunch of hoses...muine is a 325is:moon: ;) the coil position too

BimmerMan
03-22-2004, 08:49 PM
That doesn't look like a 325is head. Here's a pic of mine with the m20 still in it

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 09:06 PM
The wierd thing is that mine doesn't have the oil filter up top. My oil filter is underneath on the side of the engine. Do you reckon that my engine is bits of different engines or what????

diegom6
03-22-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
The wierd thing is that mine doesn't have the oil filter up top.

WHAT YOU MEAN WITH THTAT?

All the oil filter on M20 are in the mid-position in the right side of the engine(header side) at the bottom section...

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 09:20 PM
My mistake. This thing circled in red on the ETA engine.

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 09:29 PM
My engine hasn't got one.

BimmerMan
03-22-2004, 10:01 PM
I beleive that's the fillup tank for the power brakes/power steering.

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 10:04 PM
That would explain everything because mine aint got power steering.

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 10:05 PM
I am still not sure wether it is an ETA cause it revs over 5k rpm easily.

MorningCruiser
03-22-2004, 10:08 PM
My jeep has an indicated redline of 5500rpm, but the tach goes to 8000rpm and the engine revs to 7500 before it hits a revlimiter :D Stock too...

hammoj28
03-22-2004, 10:10 PM
Dam thats wierd cause the ETA is known for low revs.

808BMW
03-22-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by hammoj28
I am still not sure wether it is an ETA cause it revs over 5k rpm easily.

Based on what? If your cluster is different then the indicated rpm is probably wrong.
I vote regular ol' eta motor, with a seller who likes to lie to you.

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 12:11 AM
Hmm. If it is an eta motor is it any good. Have they got potential or are they utter crap??

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 12:24 AM
Another strange thing is that I am in the U.K and I don't think the eta was made for the U.K market.

MorningCruiser
03-23-2004, 12:43 AM
ETA motor is not good for power... It's an economy engine...

Maybe that's why he said it's a transplant if it wasn't in the UK.

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 12:47 AM
So the eta ain't worth tuning.

Lil'Smoothie
03-23-2004, 12:48 AM
I really doubt its an eta engine guys, they were strictly NA engines so gettin one over to the UK would be costly and very unlikely


hammoj where in Scotland r u from?

Lil'Smoothie
03-23-2004, 12:51 AM
check the distributor cap, the eta ones are much smaller than the M20 ones. Isn't the eta engine a 2.7L not a 2.8 ?

That engine could possibly be from a 5er, but what 3L engine by BMW looks like that?

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 12:54 AM
lilsmoothi, i'm in Aberdeenshire, why?? The guy told me it was from a 5 series.

Lil'Smoothie
03-23-2004, 12:56 AM
I used to live in Glasgow.....

engine out of a 5er hmmmmm I don't know the bimmers in the UK as well as I do canadian ones so I couldn't tell yah what cars it could have come out of mate

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 12:59 AM
So you don't think it's an eta

nzer
03-23-2004, 08:27 AM
heh - I was like what on earth are you guys talking about - it never occured to me you guys don't see euro motors. :D

Dude - that is either a 320 or 323 motor m20b20 or m20b23

Not a 3 ltr.

I can tell because -

a) It is L-Jettronic fuel injection - most euro 325s are Motronic (I won't say all - i've just never seen a L-Jet 325)

b) etas don't look like that - and they are all motronic

c) It has the early euro rocker cover BMW roundel.

The tubing coming off the intake manifold goes to - 1: The distributor for vacuum and mechanical timing advance and retard. 2: The brake booster. 3: A little thingee that forces the throttle on when it is not under vacuum (hard to explain).

Pic attached - my euro m20b20 (from 1984)

nzer
03-23-2004, 08:30 AM
some other observations - your car looks to be facelift - but it has an old motor in it?

Unless some serious work has been done to the motor - i doubt its 3 ltr - everything looks very very stock. Of course they could have used all the stock stuff but hey... i'm not convinced.

nzer
03-23-2004, 08:36 AM
And for all the guys posting the pics of there 325s and saying you don't have vacuum hoses - its because you have motronic - notice the dizzy is mounted on the front side. Euro cars got L-Jetronic on m20 as well as m10.

nzer
03-23-2004, 08:40 AM
To be sure - get your VIN number and chuck it into ETK or some other BMW parts program. There is one online somewhere.

GusRacer
03-23-2004, 09:07 AM
dude...the VIN site is http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi

should tell you what ya car is....should look good...im a fellow black lover...go the jungle

diegom6
03-23-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by MorningCruiser
My jeep has an indicated redline of 5500rpm, but the tach goes to 8000rpm and the engine revs to 7500 before it hits a revlimiter :D Stock too...

what Jeep do you have? ECU controlled if so there is no way to revp up t7500 or so..

I f you don't have that tank reservoir of fluid for the steering power, means that your car didn't come with P/S from factory..

Take a pic from your tach, I wanna see it..but I bet it's a ETA model in all the way!

hammoj28
03-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Thanks for all the help guys.

nzer
03-25-2004, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by diegom6
what Jeep do you have? ECU controlled if so there is no way to revp up t7500 or so..

I f you don't have that tank reservoir of fluid for the steering power, means that your car didn't come with P/S from factory..

Take a pic from your tach, I wanna see it..but I bet it's a ETA model in all the way!

dude did you read anything?

Its not an eta!

MorningCruiser
03-25-2004, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by diegom6
what Jeep do you have? ECU controlled if so there is no way to revp up t7500 or so..

I f you don't have that tank reservoir of fluid for the steering power, means that your car didn't come with P/S from factory..

Take a pic from your tach, I wanna see it..but I bet it's a ETA model in all the way!

Actually, the ECU has a speed governor, and the rev limiter is WAY too high for what the engine should take, it sounded like a bomb :D and yes, it still runs.

92 YJ 2.5l... And no, it was not a forced rpm from downshifting or coming down a steep hill...

diegom6
03-25-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by nzer
dude did you read anything?

Its not an eta! so...if is not a ETA what the hell is ????:mad:


just see the old type of distributor, all the hoses all the parts and if you know about E30 you should know that is a ETA model...enough!*mumble*

hammoj28
03-25-2004, 01:13 PM
Apparantely someone said it's a euro m20

Skunk#1
03-25-2004, 06:21 PM
the tach from a four cylinder wont work with a six cylinder, they have different readings. one picks up every four sparks and says that is for 2 rpms and the other picks up every six and says that is for 2 rpms. so if you use the four cylinder one with the six than it will read higher i think?! i know when you buy aftermarket (ie autometer) then they have a switch that you can toggle for different uses. i doubt that the bimmer one will, but you should be able to modify the tach from another six to your harness.

Skunk#1
03-25-2004, 06:22 PM
also he said it was a 316 with motor swap, so why would he need to find out the vin to find out what his car came with?

hammoj28
03-25-2004, 06:55 PM
I heard that there is a calibrate thingy behind the dials which you adjust for different engines.

hammoj28
03-25-2004, 07:21 PM
I heard that there is a calibrate thingy behind the dials which you adjust for different engines.

nzer
03-26-2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by diegom6
so...if is not a ETA what the hell is ????:mad:


just see the old type of distributor, all the hoses all the parts and if you know about E30 you should know that is a ETA model...enough!*mumble*

Because.. ITS A EURO m20 b20 or b23! ETAs were ALLLLLL Motronic.. Not L-Jettronic like the one in the picture is.

ANNNDDDD We don't get etas in Euroland.

nzer
03-26-2004, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Skunk#1
the tach from a four cylinder wont work with a six cylinder, they have different readings. one picks up every four sparks and says that is for 2 rpms and the other picks up every six and says that is for 2 rpms. so if you use the four cylinder one with the six than it will read higher i think?! i know when you buy aftermarket (ie autometer) then they have a switch that you can toggle for different uses. i doubt that the bimmer one will, but you should be able to modify the tach from another six to your harness.

If that IS a motorswap - then damn it looks like it came straight out the factory . It is IDENTICAL to my engine bay.

That is no motor swap - and it is no 3 ltr motor.

hammoj28
03-26-2004, 11:14 PM
It's definately a swap because the car used to be a 316i. The car has 316i on the V5 and the marking inside the drivers door says 316i. I don't think it's a 3ltr though. I will try to contact the guy that did the swap and ask him.