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greekthang
01-30-2004, 03:58 PM
Hey guys,

I have heard that the Valentine One is the best by far but it can get costly. I was thinking of getting the Bel 946i cordless and I hav heard good things about it. Can anyone shed any light on this topic.

Thanks

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 04:19 PM
I have had a couple of radars now. I would definately stay away from cordless. If you notice, they never compare a cordless radar, to a non-cordless...this is because they aren't close to as good as the ones you plug in. Any radar test you read, you will see that there are 2 really good radars on the market. The V1, and the Escort Passport 8500. I own the passport 8500, and am very satisfied with it. Previous to it, I owned a passport 7500. That was an excellent radar as well. Since I got a passport (about 2 1/2 years ago), I haven't got a ticket (And anyone who knows me, knows I don't drive slow). If I had the money, I would upgrade to a V1, just because I have heard even more good things about it than about the passport. The good thing about the V1 is that it is upgradable. So if/when new technology comes out, with the V1, you can upgrade it for a small fee instead of replacing it all together.

jmalixi
01-30-2004, 04:23 PM
Big debate has been going around BMW forums on V1 vs. Passport 8500.

From all the arguments I've seen, sounds like you can't go wrong with either choice. They each have features that the other one lacks. The arrows of the V1 seems to sway a lot of buyers to it but the 8500 is US$100 cheaper.

greekthang
01-30-2004, 04:28 PM
Hey guys thanks for the input. Keep them coming

thinair
01-30-2004, 04:29 PM
I say get the Valentine 1, I plan of getting one soon, but with a hidden display in the rear view mirror so it's not noticable by an officer.
If you get one watch out for cops with Radar detector detectors.

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 04:30 PM
I also had the radar up all the time, and actually never turned it off. Living in Toronto, I never had a problem with cops, and was pulled over on RIDE checks, and the cops didn't notice the radar at all. Both the V1 and the Passport have a VG2 immunity, meaning they are virtually undetectible. Both the passport8500 (not 7500) and V1 have 2 sensors. One facing forward, and one facing backward.

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 04:31 PM
inside

greekthang
01-30-2004, 04:35 PM
Look good pal. Very well hidden. I was thinking of putting it right over my rear view mirror. maybe make a custom braket of something.

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by greekthang
Look good pal. Very well hidden. I was thinking of putting it right over my rear view mirror. maybe make a custom braket of something.

I tried to do that in my car, but it doesn't fit in the e30. I would have to cut into the headliner (which I don't want to do).

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 04:43 PM
Here are some links you might want to check out
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=1064
http://www.valentine1.com/lab/detectortests.asp

greekthang
01-30-2004, 04:57 PM
thank you very much Bimmerman

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 05:09 PM
no prob. let me know if there's anything else I can help you with

BMWF1
01-30-2004, 05:12 PM
V1 all the way, get v1.8 for upgraded stealth protection*th-up*

mkgino
01-30-2004, 05:24 PM
Well I can eliminate one for you right now, unless you can pick up the V1 from somewhere in the states, you cant buy it because they dont deliver to Canada.

JazzM
01-30-2004, 05:28 PM
mkgino... let me correct that... they don't deliver to <b>Ontario</b> or any other province that does not sanction the use or radar detectors.

Best regards,


T.

Mikester
01-30-2004, 05:29 PM
do they work as good in canada as in the states?

chanh
01-30-2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by BimmerMan
I also had the radar up all the time, and actually never turned it off. Living in Toronto, I never had a problem with cops, and was pulled over on RIDE checks, and the cops didn't notice the radar at all. Both the V1 and the Passport have a VG2 immunity, meaning they are virtually undetectible. Both the passport8500 (not 7500) and V1 have 2 sensors. One facing forward, and one facing backward.

they are not immune to spectre 2*no-no*


btw, do any of u guys got any hook ups, I want to get a radar detector for my m3

chanh
01-30-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by greekthang
Hey guys,

I have heard that the Valentine One is the best by far but it can get costly. I was thinking of getting the Bel 946i cordless and I hav heard good things about it. Can anyone shed any light on this topic.

Thanks


How are u gonna get yours?

greekthang
01-30-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by chanh
How are u gonna get yours?

Talked to the guys in the states and they said its not a problem

chanh
01-30-2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by greekthang
Talked to the guys in the states and they said its not a problem

umm which guys??? is there anyway u can hook me up, I want to order a passport 8500

BimmerMan
01-30-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by chanh
they are not immune to spectre 2*no-no*


btw, do any of u guys got any hook ups, I want to get a radar detector for my m3

That is true. According to this website, it is detected from 1238 feet.

http://www.radarsource.com/escort-passport-8500.htm

Trix0r
01-30-2004, 08:15 PM
I have had my valentine1 and concealed display for 2 weeks now. Although I did not see too many cops doing radar, I did catch two. The thing about the V1 that bothers me is if you pass by a plaza and it catches 8 signals you would think that there isn't a cop there for sure, but who knows.

If you have any questions about the V1, feel free to message me.

M3ti Compact
01-30-2004, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Trix0r

If you have any questions about the V1, feel free to message me.

Ya...where did you get it?

chanh
01-30-2004, 08:55 PM
**** i shouldve just got one when i went to the detroit auto show:mad:

Whoever can get me a passport 8500 ill pay u 50 bucks on top of msrp

audiophilia
01-31-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by BimmerMan
I have had a couple of radars now. I would definately stay away from cordless. If you notice, they never compare a cordless radar, to a non-cordless...this is because they aren't close to as good as the ones you plug in. Any radar test you read, you will see that there are 2 really good radars on the market. The V1, and the Escort Passport 8500. I own the passport 8500, and am very satisfied with it. Previous to it, I owned a passport 7500. That was an excellent radar as well. Since I got a passport (about 2 1/2 years ago), I haven't got a ticket (And anyone who knows me, knows I don't drive slow). If I had the money, I would upgrade to a V1, just because I have heard even more good things about it than about the passport. The good thing about the V1 is that it is upgradable. So if/when new technology comes out, with the V1, you can upgrade it for a small fee instead of replacing it all together.

Still lovin' the 7500*th-up* How's the sun...?*mumble* *wave* :)

chanh
01-31-2004, 02:44 AM
audiophilla- sooo how many times have your concealed 7500 saved your ass ?:D

Mystikal
01-31-2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by greekthang
Talked to the guys in the states and they said its not a problem

Wow, V1 said that? I had to ship mine to a friend in Boston.

Anyways, V1's 0wn all. *th-up*

BimmerMan
01-31-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by audiophilia
Still lovin' the 7500*th-up* How's the sun...?*mumble* *wave* :)

Hey! Good to hear it! The sun is nice. It's been raining here the past couple of days, but the temp has stayed around 28 during the day. Can't complain.

app
01-31-2004, 05:47 PM
The V1 or the Passport will pick up the radar signal long before you can see the cop. Just turn the detector off once you know that it's most likely a cop. This way Spectre 2 won't pick it up. Both detectors will pick up the radar before you're in spectre's range.

chanh
01-31-2004, 08:19 PM
but, not all cops run there radar on all the time, somethin called instant on*wiggle*

Trix0r
01-31-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by chanh
but, not all cops run there radar on all the time, somethin called instant on*wiggle*

But the fact is, If you keep getting a signal, then no signal... signal, then no signal, you should know that there is radar up ahead. That will only work if there are cars infront of you though. If you are the only car on the road, Instant-on will catch you.

Originally posted by M3ti Compact
Ya...where did you get it?

I got it offered to me by some guy I met. I can ask him if he can get any more, but I would like you to be sure that you want one first. PM me if you would like.


When I first started looking for my Radar detector, I called up Valentine1 headquarters and they told me they DO NOT ship to the Provinces in which Radar warning devices are illegal. You can do the shipping to a friend or forum-buddy and then him to you, but I personally would not. They are cracking down on what is being delivered to the states thanks to the 15 year-old kid who got an AK-47 sent to him from the states. Since a radar-detector is contraband they will not let you bring it into Canada.

I would rather be safe with my money than have my radar detector taken from me.

4life
02-01-2004, 04:16 AM
Check this link

http://www.speedzones.com/

Justin e36
02-01-2004, 02:02 PM
good link... anyone with a V1 know how difficult it is to crack open?.. or anyone happen to have a wiring diagram for it? ... I'd like to keep it conceiled behind my dashboard, remote locate the sensors to the front and rear of my windows, keep it hardwired, and have all the same information displayed on an in-dash TFT screen.. (where is the threat located, urgency, etc.) as an overlay on top of the DVD playing, MP3 playing, etc.. (which of course can be disabled). It shouldn't be difficult to do since the Application I'm developing for the screen to play mp3's, dvd's, divx, etc. is all Win2K based.

Anyone with this kind of experience or who have done something similar?... I know how to do it since I've done something similar with an old Cobra... but it's from 97 or so. Would like to see what's inside a V1...

Objective: You can't be convicted of having a radar if it can't be found.

chanh
02-01-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Justin e36
good link... anyone with a V1 know how difficult it is to crack open?.. or anyone happen to have a wiring diagram for it? ... I'd like to keep it conceiled behind my dashboard, remote locate the sensors to the front and rear of my windows, keep it hardwired, and have all the same information displayed on an in-dash TFT screen.. (where is the threat located, urgency, etc.) as an overlay on top of the DVD playing, MP3 playing, etc.. (which of course can be disabled). It shouldn't be difficult to do since the Application I'm developing for the screen to play mp3's, dvd's, divx, etc. is all Win2K based.

Anyone with this kind of experience or who have done something similar?... I know how to do it since I've done something similar with an old Cobra... but it's from 97 or so. Would like to see what's inside a V1...

Objective: You can't be convicted of having a radar if it can't be found.


yes.......that's why u hide it in your pockets if u get pulled over.....he can search your car, but not on you*par-t*

Trix0r
02-01-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by chanh
yes.......that's why u hide it in your pockets if u get pulled over.....he can search your car, but not on you*par-t*

Very untrue, he can search you if he has reasonable grounds to believe the radar detector is in your car. This also applies, to that "place the detector in a self-adressed envelope and place it in your pocket" trick, which people believe will save their detectors.

chanh
02-01-2004, 06:45 PM
trix -is your v1 hardwired?


If I can get a passport 8500 /w the hardwire kit does anyone know a place that can hardwire it?:confused:

Trix0r
02-01-2004, 06:49 PM
No, my Valentine1 is not hard wired, but I did do some wiring around my windshield to hide it from plain view. I also have a concealed display placed in my ash tray, so that the red lights in my windshield will not catch anyone's eye.

This is only a temporary solution, as i plan on putting the display in my heating vents and try to hide all the wires of the actual detector.

To take it off is a really quick process in case i get pulled over now though. I can hid it in <20 seconds behind my seat.

Trix0r
02-01-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by chanh
trix -is your v1 hardwired?


If I can get a passport 8500 /w the hardwire kit does anyone know a place that can hardwire it?:confused:


I heard these guys are good for installations, but I am not sure if they would hard wire it for you.

Safe & Sound Installations
180 Nantucket Boulevard, Unit 6
Scarborough, ON
M1P 2N9
Phone: 416.757.7233

///MAC
02-01-2004, 10:42 PM
how much do these thigns run, im interested in getting one becuase since i got my first ticket, 105 in a 60 zone im affriad to drive fast. I dont even hit 100 ne more its gotta that bad

chanh
02-01-2004, 10:57 PM
Well there is a couple guys from new york coming over here for the toronto autoshow, dunno if they would smuggle us one.......:idea:

Justin e36
02-01-2004, 11:18 PM
... hard wiring takes 2 minutes to do. It's hiding the scanner while getting the information from it. :/

Mystikal
02-02-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Trix0r
I heard these guys are good for installations, but I am not sure if they would hard wire it for you.

Safe & Sound Installations
180 Nantucket Boulevard, Unit 6
Scarborough, ON
M1P 2N9
Phone: 416.757.7233

Wow, I was actually about to post that place when he asked about hardwiring. The owner there has an E36 318is, he knows the cars. He did some custom work for me in the past, good place.

chanh
02-03-2004, 08:47 PM
Hey, guys I just notice in the speed zones detector review that a pre- production radar detector was the only invisble unit against the spectre 2. Looks like ill hold off on buying one now.*wave*

greekthang
02-04-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by chanh
but, not all cops run there radar on all the time, somethin called instant on*wiggle*

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