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AMG_POWER
01-15-2004, 05:32 AM
here what red on the roadfly....i dont know if it's true or not....

BANGLE ON HIS WAY OUT
It looks as though the controversial relationship between BMW and its chief designer,Chris Bangle,could be coming to the end of the road,Auto Express can exclusively reveal.

While the flamboyant stylists radical remake of the German company's range has divided opinion across the car world,BMW has remained fiercely loyal to him.Now however there are rumours that the American,whom we interviewed exclusively back in issue 773,will step down from the hot seat in less than a years time.
According to our source at BMW HQ in Munich,word has it that Bangle will stay for the Global launch of the 1 Series this autumn,before declaring that his daring brand rethink is complete and that the time has come for a new design boss to take over.

The last two paragraphs read:-
The fact that Bangle's far reaching overhaul of BMW's family identity is now nearly complete is not the only sign that the Americans influence in the boardroom is slipping.Our spies have told us that re-engineered and facelifted X5 was originaly destined to sport a new nose with radically angled headlamps,not unlike those fitted to the new 5 series.
One insider said he saw the finnished model 2 years ago,but by the time the car was unveiled at last Septembers Frankfurt Motor Show the adventurous look had been mysteriously dropped in favour of a more conservative style.This suggested that some in the BMW hierarchy aren't happy.
now a revamped 7 series has reportedly suffered the same fate.The car was expected to adopt new headlamps and a revised tail.And even though a prototype was seen running last spring,the model has yet to be launched.
(sorry my scanner is out of action)


here's the acctual post

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e60/forum.php?postid=4488747&page=1

Gamite
01-15-2004, 06:11 AM
Too good to be true??? Looks like some execs in BMW needed a swift kick in the ass, like, dropping sales due to UGLY CARS!

SickFinga
01-15-2004, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Gamite
Too good to be true??? Looks like some execs in BMW needed a swift kick in the ass, like, dropping sales due to UGLY CARS!

Julian, wasup with you?
in one thread you like new cars, in another you hate them.
well lets review bangles work

E38 vs E65
Well I cant say E65 looks better, not E65 is what 7 series suppose to be, E38 looked way to sporty for a big luxury car.

E39 vs E60
Id take E60

Z3 vs Z4
Never like Z3/M Roadster, so Z4 without a doubt.

6 series, i dunno, not a fan of it from the pictures, gotta see in person.

E46 vs E90
If the pics are correct, FUK E46.

X5 looks amazing too.

So I honestly dont know waht you are talking about here.

Slowered318
01-15-2004, 06:29 AM
i'll take his job..

and yes... there will be a re-release of the E30 M3

crazyvadim
01-15-2004, 06:31 AM
Everythings good with the designs,its just the I-Drive gotta go!

SickFinga
01-15-2004, 06:45 AM
Wasup with i-Drive?
I think it was a really good idea.
Dont Mercedes and Audi got i-Drive type of thing on their new cars?

crazyvadim
01-15-2004, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by SickFinga
Wasup with i-Drive?
I think it was a really good idea.
Dont Mercedes and Audi got i-Drive type of thing on their new cars?

Everybody complains about it and BMWs response was "get used to it".Audo and Mercedes?? i dont know,i dont think they have anything thats similiar to the I-Drive.

BTW,whats a bungle??:confused:

SickFinga
01-15-2004, 07:20 AM
Well the problem with i-Drive is that people that can afford 7 series are not really new "technology friendly"


Audi A8
Notice the joystick, similar to the iDrive, isnt it?
http://216.117.199.231/Audi-A8L/Audi-A8L-014.jpg

crazyvadim
01-15-2004, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by SickFinga
Well the problem with i-Drive is that people that can afford 7 series are not really new "technology friendly"


Audi A8
Notice the joystick, similar to the iDrive, isnt it?
http://216.117.199.231/Audi-A8L/Audi-A8L-014.jpg

Im not into the new technology either,i like the basic stuff.I dont know if thats something similiar to the I-drive or not but atleast it got a shifter unlike the 7.Thats the new A8 right??

EDIT:That knob is for the blacklit color display."Backlit instrument cluster with automatic brightness control including tachometer, electronic speedometer, odometer, voltmeter, digital clock with date, service interval indicator; fuel, coolant and oil temperature gauges"

hows that similiar to the I-Drive??

King Luis
01-15-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Slowered318
i'll take his job..

and yes... there will be a re-release of the E30 M3
i wish they would re-release the E30 M3 i would so buy one in a heart beat. BEST BMW EVER imo

SickFinga
01-15-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by crazyvadim
EDIT:That knob is for the blacklit color display."Backlit instrument cluster with automatic brightness control including tachometer, electronic speedometer, odometer, voltmeter, digital clock with date, service interval indicator; fuel, coolant and oil temperature gauges"

hows that similiar to the I-Drive??

huh??
im talking about the one which is near the shifter

What difference does it make where the shifter is?
Well sometimes it does(like on Civic SiR)but it is not like it is in some awkward place

Gamite
01-15-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by SickFinga
Julian, wasup with you?
in one thread you like new cars, in another you hate them.
well lets review bangles work

E38 vs E65
Well I cant say E65 looks better, not E65 is what 7 series suppose to be, E38 looked way to sporty for a big luxury car.

E39 vs E60
Id take E60

Z3 vs Z4
Never like Z3/M Roadster, so Z4 without a doubt.

6 series, i dunno, not a fan of it from the pictures, gotta see in person.

E46 vs E90
If the pics are correct, FUK E46.

X5 looks amazing too.

So I honestly dont know waht you are talking about here.

I don't like 7 or 5. I like the coupes, but that's it.

AMG_POWER
01-15-2004, 07:50 PM
DUnno i loved the 7 and all the features and the look of it, if it wasnt breaking every friday i would keep it.... i miss it:( maybe i should buy another one?:)

but the 5 yeah i dont like it either, interrior is horrible!!!

Gamite
01-15-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by AMG_POWER
DUnno i loved the 7 and all the features and the look of it, if it wasnt breaking every friday i would keep it.... i miss it:( maybe i should buy another one?:)

but the 5 yeah i dont like it either, interrior is horrible!!!


hehe, I was talking to one of the service guys at BMW Toronto, and I asked him:

"do the 7's have lots of problems?"

His reply:

"TONS!!"

AMG_POWER
01-15-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Gamite
hehe, I was talking to one of the service guys at BMW Toronto, and I asked him:

"do the 7's have lots of problems?"

His reply:

"TONS!!"

Yeah that guy who i sold my 7 was at the service few times already...maybe more than few lol:D

crazyvadim
01-16-2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by SickFinga
huh??
im talking about the one which is near the shifter

What difference does it make where the shifter is?
Well sometimes it does(like on Civic SiR)but it is not like it is in some awkward place

Yeah,the big knob below the shifter.Audi dont have anything similiar to the I-Drive.

Theres no shifter on the 7,everything is done thru the computer.I heard it has some 400 features.

Mystikal
01-16-2004, 01:42 AM
Regarding the Audi system: It does have a similar setup to I-drive. But it's getting really good reviews, saying it's very intuitive and easy to learn, with a lot better menu setup. It was either R&T or C&D, in a comparison that the 745 and A8 were in. I believe it's called MMI (Multimedia Interface).

crazyvadim
01-16-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Mystikal
Regarding the Audi system: It does have a similar setup to I-drive. But it's getting really good reviews, saying it's very intuitive and easy to learn, with a lot better menu setup. It was either R&T or C&D, in a comparison that the 745 and A8 were in. I believe it's called MMI (Multimedia Interface).

Doesnt it have like much less features then the I-Drive??

Mystikal
01-16-2004, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by crazyvadim
Doesnt it have like much less features then the I-Drive??

I dunno, but here's a good piece of the article:

BMW tried to take over control of HVAC, audio, chassis settings, trip info, navigation, etc., with a screen. You make your choices with a single knob that turns, toggles, and clicks; it's a mouse substitute. Worse yet, the company forced ordinary controls into some contortion of the knob thing; for example, you must select the part of the seat you want to adjust by pressing a button, then twist or toggle a knob to make it move. Okay, but what was wrong with the old way?

In fact, the 745i has buttons and rockers scattered about the dash that let you adjust HVAC and do very basic radio/CD changes without using iDrive. But they're so haphazard in their logic that they only add to the annoyance.

We've given iDrive 18 months to persuade us. It failed. Now the F is in ink. Fearless prediction: The 745i will take a beating on resale.

BMW's pickle is made worse by the fact that it's all by itself at the irritating extreme. The Jaguar and the Lexus are very friendly; they have touch screens, surely the easiest input method, and they provide full HVAC and entertainment control without the screen. In fact, you needn't agree with their lawyers if you don't use the navigation.

Audi and VW are almost as screen-centric as BMW, but they have a critical improvement: Separate buttons, well-labeled, bring up the various menus. Their graphics are also vastly superior to BMW's. We find them relatively easy to operate, particularly the VW's.

PBalla
01-16-2004, 06:48 AM
well duh of course Audi and VW and now Benz are going to have better imitation 'i-drives' they weren't the inventors but rather the innovators of a system started by BMW and now selling it as their own

AMG_POWER
01-16-2004, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Pharshballa
well duh of course Audi and VW and now Benz are going to have better imitation 'i-drives' they weren't the inventors but rather the innovators of a system started by BMW and now selling it as their own

well not alot of people like the i-drive, for example more older poeple maybe? My dad for example wouldnt want to have that in the car coz he has no clue what to do with it....he never used a computer so from now i guess it will be a race who can make it more simple so people wouldnt be so confused with it.....i think benz will make it more user friendly...

what ya think?

PBalla
01-16-2004, 03:49 PM
well im sure benz could appeal to that market, because they already do

their transmissions, those upper class seniors dont want to 'row the MB' so AMG could make it easier on them

but BMW Is a driving machine, i've only used iDrive on the new 5 and found no trouble with it, its really not that hard to learn.

BladeRunner
01-16-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by crazyvadim
Im not into the new technology either,i like the basic stuff.I dont know if thats something similiar to the I-drive or not but atleast it got a shifter unlike the 7.Thats the new A8 right??

I must agree once you start adding new technology you get new problems. For instance anyone seen the the video of the BMW 7 with the waky trunk that wouldn't go up or down on demand? Lastly, its the basics thing I say keep it simiple, if the simple stuff works why go advance...? Most of the people that can afford the 7 are most likely middle ages or over so they dislike new technology or even all technology for that matter (DAD for example bought a damn C-VHS for $180. what they hell you can get MVD or that other one with like 3X zoom for that price. The video quality sucks might I add. Anyone buying C-VHS or Hi-8 these days should be shot unless it is a must. Face it VHS and 8 are dead DEAD I TELL YOU DEAD let them go in peace BladeRunner toses the flowers upon the casket for VHS and 8, and says "FARWELL").

BladeRunner
01-17-2004, 12:19 AM
I think they are making the BMW lineup to deep. I liked it the way it was 3, 5, 7, 8 M, and X. That was enough to me, but now it seems like they're trying to attack all sides of the market to gain more $$. I hate to say this but I think it will bite BMW in the ass later. Think about whenever you tell someone your driving a BMW for 318 to the top they look at you like your loaded, if the expansion continues this may no longer be. Anyway, whenever you redesign your suppose to show tribute to the past design are you. These new ones don't seem to be really doing that anyway in traffic I can tell a BMW from a Honda until I see the badge. So it has been nice mister, so long and have a nice whatever...just my 0.20 cents.