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T-spec
12-10-2003, 04:37 AM
on an a 4door E36 without having the wheel rub, I need at least a 17x8" rim, any ideas, anyone with rims with these dimensions selling their rims, looking for lightweight rims, any links/hookups would be appreciated*th-up*

EMPOWERD
12-10-2003, 05:24 AM
I'm assuming you're talking about tires on a 17"x 8" rim?

I've seen a 255/40 ZR17 tire on the stock M3 wheels (my dad's M3 actually) and it worked fine, but his car wasn't lowered. If you keep ride height stock, that'll work. The only clearence issue will be the muffler.... it rubbed a bit on my dad's stock muffler under hard right corners. he then upgraded to a Brullen cat back.

T-spec
12-10-2003, 06:04 AM
In my case the car will be lowered with coilovers, so I need to know what is the widest wheel/tire I can stuff under the wheel wells.

SickFinga
12-10-2003, 08:08 AM
T-Spec, you got skills with metal, just do what SuperM3 done.
Just pull your fenders out.(not rolling)

I got 17x8.5 on the back. stock rims

WASABI
12-10-2003, 01:43 PM
Are you considering staggered setup for the track? I've heard 235 all around is the best setup.

tiestoE36
12-10-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by WASABI
Are you considering staggered setup for the track? I've heard 235 all around is the best setup.

this is the second time hearing this, someone on DTMpower said that a stagered set up promotes understeer.:confused:

SickFinga
12-10-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by tiestoE36
this is the second time hearing this, someone on DTMpower said that a stagered set up promotes understeer.:confused:

Of course wider tires on the back would cause understeer.
wider tires more grip, so if you got wider tires on the back and small on the front you'll get understeer.

95 M3 came with 225 all around.
in 97 BMW changed the setup to 225 on the front and 245 on the back to make a car more neutral.

T-spec
12-10-2003, 07:48 PM
Pull my fenders out, I have no idea how to do that, neverheard of it before.

I'm not planning to stagger the setup.

Thanks for the info guys, I think I know which way I'm gonna go now.*th-up*

AndreNY
12-10-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by T-spec
Pull my fenders out, I have no idea how to do that, neverheard of it before.

I'm not planning to stagger the setup.

Thanks for the info guys, I think I know which way I'm gonna go now.*th-up*

you should be more then fine then, if you were looking to go very wide, you would have to have a good body shop roll and pull the $hit out of your fenders, but that's only if u planed on going 11 or 12" wide

t.o.bimmer
12-11-2003, 04:40 PM
can wheels that are 18" * 8.5" fit on an e36 without rubbing?

EMPOWERD
12-11-2003, 05:01 PM
guys, wheels don't rub with a proper offset. Unless they're stupid wide like 11"+ the only problem is tire rub. Thinair's car had 19"x 9" wheels on slightly rolled fenders... the proper offset is required and a thiner tire (235 section width).

t.o.bimmer
12-12-2003, 08:40 AM
BUt if i got 18 * 85 with an offset of 30
would my tires rub?

AndreNY
12-12-2003, 01:38 PM
as randy said it all depends on teh offset of the wheel. but like i said before if u wanna go wide like this guy 18X11 you must use a shorter tire and pull the fenders

https://www.evolutionsports.com/images/gallery/w_8821.jpg

EMPOWERD
12-12-2003, 02:45 PM
That cabrio's plate says "BMW M3" but the dashboard says '92-'93 non-airbag (non-///M).

motor transplant?

Soldo
12-12-2003, 03:40 PM
I had 255's in the rear when i bought my M rims, and i only had rubbing issues under HARD cornering, or when i had 5 people in th car (But my car was dumped too). So it really only matters about the TIRES you use, i obviously had to change the tire, cause 255's are MUCH to wide for a lowered 4 dr. (unless the fenders are rolled), but thats the widest i've seen!
Now i have the front and ONE rear tire with 205/60/15 and one rear as 185/55/15 as my winter setup, i handle like a LAMBO NOWWWW!
But my summer setup is 235's all the way around!
IMO the best thing to do!

AndreNY
12-12-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by EMPOWERD
That cabrio's plate says "BMW M3" but the dashboard says '92-'93 non-airbag (non-///M).

motor transplant?

i have no idea about the motor but that car is PIMP One of teh cleanest E36's

https://www.evolutionsports.com/images/gallery/w_8819.jpg

thinair
12-13-2003, 05:52 PM
I'm running 235/40/17's all around right now, which is the stock tire size on 95 M3's all around. I have 17x8" rims all around, 40mm offset.

In the back, I've actually removed the springs and installed the wheels to see how much clearance I had. I was able to stuff the wheel all the way into the fender. I also have -2.25 degree's camber, which will give you a little more clearance.

Rolling the fenders will also let you run wider tires, but it also depends on how dropped your car is. When I had 19x9's on the back of my car, the tires rubbed because the offset was wrong, but it didn't rub the fender lip. It rubbed the top of the inside fender flare. My car has been lowered 2" too in the back.

It is possible to run 17x9 with 255/40/17 all around if you run spacers up front, have the right offset in the back, roll your fenders, and don't drop your car too much. But that is generally too much unless you're doing nothing else aside from autocrossing, or have your own skid pad or something.