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umnitza
08-27-2003, 03:54 AM
in 2 weeks

jeremy
08-27-2003, 03:59 AM
will you have any for the e30 ? pre-assembled possibly in the euro/openable lights ?

umnitza
08-27-2003, 04:00 AM
We plan on having some avaialbe for the E30. Only issue is wearther resistance for them.

jeremy
08-27-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
We plan on having some avaialbe for the E30. Only issue is wearther resistance for them.

so you are talking about externally mounted rings as apposed to internally mounted rings .....

Mitch555
08-27-2003, 04:11 AM
How much are these lights for a 94 E36?

umnitza
08-27-2003, 04:21 AM
Externally mounted rings for ALL E30s no matter what the ring type.

Internally mounting them is ...well...foolish.

Those are ZKWs + DDE Lightning - $540 US + shipping.

jeremy
08-27-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
Externally mounted rings for ALL E30s no matter what the ring type.

Internally mounting them is ...well...foolish.



why would it be foolish > it is common pratice in europe...

umnitza
08-27-2003, 04:24 AM
not on E30s with Euro's. If you put it behind the lamp, the refractory lens just scatters the light output from the rings.

I don't think it's common practice there, but I could be wrong.

jeremy
08-27-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
not on E30s with Euro's. If you put it behind the lamp, the refractory lens just scatters the light output from the rings.

I don't think it's common practice there, but I could be wrong.

i have seen it quite a few time.....by refractory lense, do you mean the reflective material ? if so, i understand what you mean (blob of light, not ring shaped)....but would the outer lense really diffuse that much light to make a difference ?

Mitch555
08-27-2003, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
Externally mounted rings for ALL E30s no matter what the ring type.

Internally mounting them is ...well...foolish.

Those are ZKWs + DDE Lightning - $540 US + shipping.

$540 U.S. for the DDE angel eyes for my E36?!?

jeremy
08-27-2003, 04:39 AM
pic

Mitch555
08-27-2003, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by jeremy
pic

Wow... those look really nice! I thought they'd look half as good as that for the E30!!

windsor318is
08-27-2003, 04:41 AM
damb it, i wont those things so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeremy
08-27-2003, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by windsor318is
damb it, i wont those things so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

me too, me too*th-up*

i dont really like the "mts" ones....they need to be smoked or something

windsor318is
08-27-2003, 04:53 AM
ya those ones look cheesey like the eurolight brand, what kind are the first pic, hella??? and stop posting pics of angel eyes WE CANT GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!, i might cry

jeremy
08-27-2003, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by windsor318is
ya those ones look cheesey like the eurolight brand, what kind are the first pic, hella??? and stop posting pics of angel eyes WE CANT GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!, i might cry

we can get the first ones....
you need to order a set of euro ellips/smoked euro ellips (as pictured) and buy the rings from um-nitza/bmw/whoever , open the lamps,insert rings and voila.....k, it's alittle harder than i described :D ....but still VERY do-able...

oh, by the way....the euro ellips are around 400 u.s

windsor318is
08-27-2003, 05:16 AM
so that first pic is just home made?? so theres a difference in normal hella ellipsoids and euro items, im guessing only the euros open up right??

jeremy
08-27-2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by windsor318is
so that first pic is just home made?? so theres a difference in normal hella ellipsoids and euro items, im guessing only the euros open up right??

you got it *th-up*

windsor318is
08-27-2003, 05:24 AM
can i order euros from the dealer?? wait a minute cant i just get some nice smoked hellas and hackem open??

jeremy
08-27-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by windsor318is
can i order euros from the dealer?? wait a minute cant i just get some nice smoked hellas and hackem open??

thats right...smoked euro ellips....slowered knows a guy in t.o with a set in stock...i think they want 550.00 for em'

///Milk
08-27-2003, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by jeremy
pic
omg
those are hott?
where could i get those?
even tho i wont be getting them for another 4 years

umnitza
08-27-2003, 05:53 AM
We'll answer all your questions in teh morning. Those are not home made. We have a factory putting this stuff out.

The lights with the rings behind the lense illustrate the exact reason NOT to put them behind the lense.

$540 is USD. $390 for ZKWs, + PnP + StonGard and $100 for the DDE Lightning + $50 for their pre-installation.

jeremy
08-27-2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
We'll answer all your questions in teh morning. Those are not home made. We have a factory putting this stuff out.

The lights with the rings behind the lense illustrate the exact reason NOT to put them behind the lense.


if your reffering to the white glare, that appears to be from the camera flash...

westside
08-27-2003, 10:45 AM
we have loads of these over here in th euk. HElla do a complete unit which i have fitted on my car theres a few day time shots here http://www.cardomain.com/id/alpinab3. I'll try to get some night time shots. Also go tthe chrome fog lights no pics yet will post them when i get them fitted ther look wicked :-)

jeremy
08-27-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by westside
we have loads of these over here in th euk. HElla do a complete unit which i have fitted on my car theres a few day time shots here http://www.cardomain.com/id/alpinab3. I'll try to get some night time shots. Also go tthe chrome fog lights no pics yet will post them when i get them fitted ther look wicked :-)

your link isnt working.....can you also give us a link for who you bought yours from ?

app
08-27-2003, 11:27 AM
damn, I best get saving!

Steve7792
08-27-2003, 01:00 PM
Wowm Thats Gonna Look Amazing Man, Can't Wait To See It On Your Car :).

westside
08-27-2003, 01:57 PM
sorry guys heres the link again

http://www.cardomain.com/id/alpinab3

jeremy
08-27-2003, 09:47 PM
oh, we can get the e36 angel eyes here as well....we were reffering to the problems getting them for the e30 with the rings mounted behind the lenses.....the n.a lights are not openable.....

westside
08-28-2003, 10:13 AM
oh sorry jeremy. i thought some people wanted a full unit for the E36 rather then just the plastic rings ppl used to fit :-)

Lennon
08-28-2003, 12:25 PM
I think these look good

Shamis
08-28-2003, 07:01 PM
PIMPJUICE

Soldo
08-28-2003, 07:15 PM
So 390 US is just for a set of ZKW's!?!
PM me with more info please and thanks!

umnitza
08-31-2003, 07:41 PM
I suppose it's "ok" for some of you to jump onto this thread when none of your products were mentioned.:rolleyes:

How about you go start one of your own?:huh?: :confused:

There is nothing out there brighter than DDE Lightning™. There is nothing out there better defined than DDE Lightning™. What's more, there is nothing that looks as good (subjective) than DDE Lightning™.

Support your buying decision all you want but even Hella admits they missed the boat on their implementation - it looks ugly IMO.

Chrome in the headlights is best reserved for VWs and Audis.

Furthermore, we have 30 boards to check, we do our best to monitor all of them, but if you need information, please contact us via info@umnitza.com.

We will be opening pre-orders for people in the coming two days for DDE Lightning™ w/ ZKWs (the only brand known to work well with them).
The ZKWs are $340 add PnP connectors and StonGard for protection and it's $390.

That's right, $340 is the lowest price in the country for ZKWs.

jeremy
08-31-2003, 07:50 PM
relax, umnitza... we are just saying that it is possible to place the rings behind the lenses....and e30 owners would sooner have that, then have the rings placed on the outside of the lenses....i dont doubt the qulity of your rings....i have seen pics and heard very good things about them....we are more or less trying to get you to focus more on the e30 and see if you can come up with some sort of comprimise.....


this statement:

"I suppose it's "ok" for some of you to jump onto this thread when none of your products were mentioned.

How about you go start one of your own? "

is alittle stupid, no offence....but c'mon, this is an open forum and the members here all try to help eachother out....and if some knows of a cheaper/different way of doing something their opinion is more than welcome, IMO....

Mitch555
08-31-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
I suppose it's "ok" for some of you to jump onto this thread when none of your products were mentioned.:rolleyes:

How about you go start one of your own?:huh?: :confused:


That doesn't sound too professional to me. If you want to run a business and get people to buy your products you have to have the right approach towards customers. Obviously that wasn't a right approach. *no-no* That was a little uncalled for!

mpower1226
08-31-2003, 09:59 PM
that's right. I am little suprised to see a someone whom I thought to be a professional businessman to be saying unprofessionalthings. If your products are as good as you say they are, you have nothing to worry about.

umnitza
08-31-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Mitch555
That doesn't sound too professional to me. If you want to run a business and get people to buy your products you have to have the right approach towards customers. Obviously that wasn't a right approach. *no-no* That was a little uncalled for!
Excuse me. Let me try to illustrate this a little better.

This thread is a partial advertisement for OUR products. Not a free for all for competing products to be showcased.

Do you see Miller Lite interrupting a nationally advertised Bud Light commercial to tell others about their hops?

Subsequently, I'd like to return the topic BACK to what we Announced, not something else.

The implementation of the DDE Lightning™ is the focus.

Offensive? I found posts about competing products offensive.

Let's for one second assume you are selling your car, which all of us will do someday in a public setting - a mall, a parking lot, a park, a whatever. While you're selling your car, another guy with a similar car drive's up and starts talking to your buyer about why he thinks his car is a better choice. Hey, it's a public forum right, he has the right to drive up to a public place. But, you'd be pretty unhappy because:
you spent money to get the car there
you spent time putting it together
you put in the effort to work with the buyer to set up a meeting time.

Then, here comes a guy with no work, no time, and NO MONEY in the process to sell his car. You wouldn't be too offended?

It's just poor taste.

jeremy
09-01-2003, 01:37 AM
you got this all backwards....

i asked if you had them for the e30 w/o having to use stone gaurds....you said no and that mounting them behind the lenses was a "foolish"...

i showed you pictures of some home made ones that appeared to work fine....in hopes that you would consider doing this in the future......

another user by the name of "westside" posted a link to angel eyes that he thought we were talking about....not realizing that we were more concerned with the e30 setup....

and finaly, this is posted in the "general discussion" section.....not the for sale or new products section....therefore making it an open discussion for anyone to put in there 0.02....get it..."

geez...

sonic07
09-01-2003, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by jeremy
this is posted in the "general discussion" section.....not the for sale or new products section....there fore making it an open discussion for anyone to put in there 0.02....get it..."

geez...

GOOD POINT ....this is for GENERAL DISCUSSION ....

hmmmm now i'm thinking about changing mine to ZKW ....

umnitza
09-01-2003, 04:16 AM
Since it's pretty clear we're just going to continue to argue our differing points of view (for the record, while you don't agree with mine and I don't agree with yours), it's best to stop now. It won't help either of our company or you.

Originally posted by jeremy
if your reffering to the white glare, that appears to be from the camera flash...
I was referring to how light is scattered. If you look at the picture, the light is just going all over the place willy-nilly.

In Euro Ellipsoids for E36 owners, those rings are place in FRONT of the lens so that light shown into the rings is not then refracted everywhere.

MTS - AFAIK - has not formally released those and have claimed to have them for over a year.

Let's let bygones be bygones. I will admit that my tone may have been harsher than necessary.*wave*

Mitch555
09-01-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
Excuse me. Let me try to illustrate this a little better.


After all this is a public forum and you did post your information for selling your products in the "General Discussion" section which means anyone on this site has a right to help out another max member. I'm not going to carry this on any longer I just thought that your previous comment to all of us here at max was a little inappropriate.

MeAtWork
09-01-2003, 06:06 AM
Jeremy, can you see if I have the right lights to do the inside ring conversion..?

sonic07
09-01-2003, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
In Euro Ellipsoids for E36 owners, those rings are place in FRONT of the lens so that light shown into the rings is not then refracted everywhere.



question ... if you don't mind ....

currently i have the in.pro with angle eyes. what exactly do i need to convert to DDE ?

jeremy
09-01-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by MeAtWork
Jeremy, can you see if I have the right lights to do the inside ring conversion..?

if you have the european ellips you can open them and install the rings behind the lenses..*th-up*

umnitza
09-01-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by sonic07
question ... if you don't mind ....

currently i have the in.pro with angle eyes. what exactly do i need to convert to DDE ?
Unfortunately, we've done an in depth review of the InPro and there is nothing that will help that light out:(

They aren't very well designed out the box, and that lends to very difficult installations.

sonic07
09-01-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
Unfortunately, we've done an in depth review of the InPro and there is nothing that will help that light out:(

They aren't very well designed out the box, and that lends to very difficult installations.

ok .... and then ....?

do i need to replace the housing and get the DDE ?, does the bulb comes with the package ? wiring ? the price for the complete set .... i mean complete ready to install .... or other stuff that i need to get from the dealer ...? .... basically i need detail ...

thanks in advance ...

umnitza
09-03-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by sonic07
ok .... and then ....?

do i need to replace the housing and get the DDE ?, does the bulb comes with the package ? wiring ? the price for the complete set .... i mean complete ready to install .... or other stuff that i need to get from the dealer ...? .... basically i need detail ...

thanks in advance ...
You have LEDs in there. I worked with a guy to try to improve them. It didn't work because of the design.

If you sell your InPro, the ZKWs are a better choice (regardless of DDE or "angel eyes").

They come with bulbs, low, high, city. You get everything READY to install - plug and play (PnP) harness, StonGard, and instructions.

Then, if you want Lightning, you add $150 to the total pre-installed.

sonic07
09-03-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
You have LEDs in there. I worked with a guy to try to improve them. It didn't work because of the design.

If you sell your InPro, the ZKWs are a better choice (regardless of DDE or "angel eyes").

They come with bulbs, low, high, city. You get everything READY to install - plug and play (PnP) harness, StonGard, and instructions.

Then, if you want Lightning, you add $150 to the total pre-installed.

ok so to sum it up basicaly i need:

$340 JUST HEADLIGHTS NO PINS OR WIRING
1199.95 w/ StonGard + DDE Gen V + PnP + 5100K HID + INSTALLATION

1539.95 USD + TAXES + DEL.
2125.13 CAD + taxes + del.

subtract pnp connector because it's already in my car and installation. correct ?

umnitza
09-04-2003, 04:14 AM
Well, let's put it this way.

$340 for the headlights.
you have PnP, probably OEM quality, but I don't know what InPro retailers provided.
StonGard - if you want it. We will be providing Xpel instead shortly - same cost.

Lighting - see pic below - will be $99 + $50 for install.

So, out the door, it's $490 without StonGard and PnP, + shipping to your location - CAN.

If you want HID, we won't sell those any longer. We'll be moving into OEMs.

http://www.umnitza.com/ad/wedontneednostinkingheadlights.jpg

sonic07
09-04-2003, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by umnitza
Well, let's put it this way.

$340 for the headlights.
you have PnP, probably OEM quality, but I don't know what InPro retailers provided.
StonGard - if you want it. We will be providing Xpel instead shortly - same cost.

Lighting - see pic below - will be $99 + $50 for install.

So, out the door, it's $490 without StonGard and PnP, + shipping to your location - CAN.

If you want HID, we won't sell those any longer. We'll be moving into OEMs.
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so i was confusing my self ....
headlights + DDE gen.V = 490 USD + shipping.

i wish you have pictures which part is which and how much ...

the pnp connector ... i got that from bmw dealer.

one last question ... those headlights lense ... are they tempered glass like the in.pro ?

umnitza
09-04-2003, 07:42 AM
We DO have pictures on the site - right next to what you're buying.

Gen V is NOT $99 + 40.
Gen V is more when purchased with the combo.

What we are showing here is the pre-release version of our latest product the DDE Lightning™

R_JAY
09-05-2003, 04:18 AM
umnitza check your pm please

umnitza
09-05-2003, 08:01 AM
sorry:( I don't check PMs often.
info@umnitza.com works best.

325Ryan
09-05-2003, 10:49 PM
so basically lets say this:

I have a 95 e36 325is with the stock Canadian lighting system in it. For a set of headlights with angels eyes in em im looking at 490 canadian?

The reason I ask is cause on your website it says your ddes are not compatible with stock US/Can lights

umnitza
09-06-2003, 05:55 AM
DDE are not compatible with US/CAD lights.

It's not $490 CAN. It's $540 + shipping USD. It's just high quality stuff.

As for just the lights, they are $340 USD + shipping.

325Ryan
09-06-2003, 04:45 PM
so basically I can go and spend the $540+ shipping USD and they are not compatible with my car?

Sounds like a waste of $800 to me, am I missing something?

mpower1226
09-07-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by 325Ryan
so basically I can go and spend the $540+ shipping USD and they are not compatible with my car?

Sounds like a waste of $800 to me, am I missing something?

no that 540+ whatever is including the european ellipsoid headlight and dde.

mkgino
09-07-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by 325Ryan
so basically I can go and spend the $540+ shipping USD and they are not compatible with my car?

Sounds like a waste of $800 to me, am I missing something?

omg, DDE are not compatible with the headlights you have in your car right now. You need ellipsoids ($340). The DDE go inside those.

sonic07
09-08-2003, 12:42 AM
there is always something not clear here. after going around the block so here it is:

you need:

ellipsoids = 340 usd
dde v = 540 usd

so total 840 usd. which is about 1150 canadian. that's just to get started. and then there other stuff need to get like the pnp connector 21 CAD each + wiring + copper plugs + taxes. and then if you want you can add stoneguard .....and then there is shipping ... i guess bottom line is put a side 1500 to 1600 bucks CAD to do this project ... or more ...

umnitza
09-08-2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by sonic07
there is always something not clear here. after going around the block so here it is:

you need:

ellipsoids = 340 usd
dde v = 540 usd

so total 840 usd. which is about 1150 canadian. that's just to get started. and then there other stuff need to get like the pnp connector 21 CAD each + wiring + copper plugs + taxes. and then if you want you can add stoneguard .....and then there is shipping ... i guess bottom line is put a side 1500 to 1600 bucks CAD to do this project ... or more ...

I'm really sorry for not making this very clear. Maybe it's the language barrier:D *wave* J/K.

Ellipsoids are $390 USD (ZKWs, PnPs, StonGards) + Shipping.
DDE Gen V = $300 USD INSTALLED INTO ZKWS
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DDE Gen V + Ellipsoids = $685 + shipping <- we'll release an FAQ soon.

DDE Lightning is what was portrayed in the first picture and the latest posted from DTMPower by Dado.

DDE Lighting is $99 + $50 for the install into ZKWs.

Hence, tada, the $540 price point for:
-------------------------------------------------
DDE Lightning™ + Ellipsoids = $540 + shipping.

ALL PRICES ARE USD.

umnitza
09-09-2003, 06:29 PM
customs has delayed our announced product 2 days:(
sorry for the inconvenience.

325Ryan
09-09-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
I'm really sorry for not making this very clear. Maybe it's the language barrier:D *wave* J/K.

Ellipsoids are $390 USD (ZKWs, PnPs, StonGards) + Shipping.
DDE Gen V = $300 USD INSTALLED INTO ZKWS
----------------------------------------------------------
DDE Gen V + Ellipsoids = $685 + shipping <- we'll release an FAQ soon.

DDE Lightning is what was portrayed in the first picture and the latest posted from DTMPower by Dado.

DDE Lighting is $99 + $50 for the install into ZKWs.

Hence, tada, the $540 price point for:
-------------------------------------------------
DDE Lightning™ + Ellipsoids = $540 + shipping.

ALL PRICES ARE USD.


thanks for the clarification *wiggle*

umnitza
09-12-2003, 12:37 AM
Ok, it's in our hands.
Tomorrow will be the official release of the products.
We are just finalizing some pricing and availability of ZKWs is back ordered exactly 5 days.

So keep your eyes peeled*sad* *th-up*


and don't fall *sleep*

umnitza
09-12-2003, 08:14 PM
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Plus, we used quality materials and bought wisely.</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1"><b>Is this easy to install?</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>On the E46, yes, on the E36, ZKWs are simply a harder light to install into. Best left up to the professionals. See Map for a professional near you.</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>http://www.umnitza.com/dde/install/Map.jpg</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1"><b>What's the Warranty?</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>Warranty for Electronic Components is for 90 days</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>Warranty for rings is 30 days</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>If you break a ring during installation, please contact us, self-installs are not warranted, but we can help.</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>Use this product at your own risk, any damage incurred to your headlights, yourself, or anyone or thing&nbsp; in the general vicinity of the installation or product is not the responsibility of Umnitza, it's contractors, or any party/retailer/vendor/constituent of Umnitza &lt;-- Otherwise, have a nice day:)</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1"><b>Why is the sky blue? How does this pertain to DDE Lightning™</b></font></p><p><b><font size="1" color="#D3721E">Blue light's short wavelength causes it to get scattered around 10 times more by oxygen and nitrogen molecules than the longer wavelengths (like red) of the other colors visible to us. The blue in the sky we see is scattered blue light.</font></b></p><p><font size="1" color="#D3721E"><b>Hence, BRIGHTNESS is just an EFFECT. It's NOT actually brighter, it's an effect.</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><font size="1"><b>Do you have other pictures?<br><font color="#D3721E"><a href="http://www.umnitza.com/new/loader.html?url=http://www.umnitza.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=lightning"><font color="#D3721E">Click Image to Go Directly to Gallery</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.umnitza.com/new/loader.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.umnitza.com%2Fgal lery%2Fview_album.php%3Fset_albumName%3Dlightning"><img border="0" src="http://www.umnitza.com/albums/lightning/9078dsc03280.sized.jpg" style="border-style: groove; border-width: 5" width="480" height="640"></a></b></font></p><p><b><a href="mailto:news-subscribe@umnitza.com"><font color="#D3721E">SUBSCRIBE to Umnitza NewsLetters</url></font></a></b></p></body>

umnitza
09-25-2003, 12:06 AM
DDE Lightning Video w/ some music (http://www.umnitza.com/dde/video/promo/ddelightning.wmv)

Unlike our competition, there is no way to take a picture of this product. It's just too bright. But, it's dimmable!!!

e304lyfe
09-25-2003, 01:18 PM
i would like to correct some mis-information on this thread. sorry umnitza if this bothers you, but back to putting rings inside of european ellipsoids...

european e30 ellipsoids are just as hard to put angel eyes in as US ellipsoids. many people don't realize what is meant when european ellipsoids "come apart".

euro ellipsoids split in the middle, via 3 screws. the US counterpart also comes apart at this section, but in place of these 3 screws are tamper proof screws. this point of seperation is not really important because you cannot put angel eyes in from behind (opening is too small, reflector is in the way, trust me, its not going to happen).

you would need to physically remove the glass. and this is the same procedure whether its euro ellipsoids or US ellipsoids. same deal with the high beams (the US and euro high beams are virtually identical except one accepts a h1 bulb and one a 9005 bulb).

removing the glass is not a simple thing. ask around, its a bitch 'n a half (i have personally tried this and have talked with other people who have done it). more then likely you will break the glass attempting to take it off. the procedure consists of, heating the lense, in an attempt to soften the sealing material, and prying at the glass. sounds simple, but trust me, these things are NOT made to come apart. and attempting this on a brand new set of $500 smoked euro ellipsoids must be nerve racking.

Betray
09-25-2003, 01:32 PM
i just wanna buy it for my room

umnitza
09-26-2003, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by e304lyfe
i would like to correct some mis-information on this thread. sorry umnitza if this bothers you, but back to putting rings inside of european ellipsoids...

european e30 ellipsoids are just as hard to put angel eyes in as US ellipsoids. many people don't realize what is meant when european ellipsoids "come apart".

euro ellipsoids split in the middle, via 3 screws. the US counterpart also comes apart at this section, but in place of these 3 screws are tamper proof screws. this point of seperation is not really important because you cannot put angel eyes in from behind (opening is too small, reflector is in the way, trust me, its not going to happen).

you would need to physically remove the glass. and this is the same procedure whether its euro ellipsoids or US ellipsoids. same deal with the high beams (the US and euro high beams are virtually identical except one accepts a h1 bulb and one a 9005 bulb).

removing the glass is not a simple thing. ask around, its a bitch 'n a half (i have personally tried this and have talked with other people who have done it). more then likely you will break the glass attempting to take it off. the procedure consists of, heating the lense, in an attempt to soften the sealing material, and prying at the glass. sounds simple, but trust me, these things are NOT made to come apart. and attempting this on a brand new set of $500 smoked euro ellipsoids must be nerve racking.
I'm completely confused. Are you only talking E30 or E36?

E30 I don't have experience with, but E36, I have more than my fair share.

e304lyfe
09-26-2003, 03:53 AM
i am talking about e30

umnitza
09-30-2003, 06:50 PM
The E30 is actually quite easy to install with LIghtning it's a pain to install with Gen V (LumenX).

e304lyfe
09-30-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
The E30 is actually quite easy to install with LIghtning it's a pain to install with Gen V (LumenX).

did you read what i wrote? i'm talking about putting angel eyes inside ellipsoids. if your still talking about putting them outside, that just looks stupid.

umnitza
10-01-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by e304lyfe
did you read what i wrote? i'm talking about putting angel eyes inside ellipsoids. if your still talking about putting them outside, that just looks stupid.
nm, no need to get hostile.
I read what you wrote, and you are jumping to conclusions.

Just because my response is short, doesn't mean there isn't a lot of meaning in there. Thanks for your time.

Bruce, contact me please.

Bliss
10-01-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
nm, no need to get hostile.
I read what you wrote, and you are jumping to conclusions.

Just because my response is short, doesn't mean there isn't a lot of meaning in there. Thanks for your time.

Bruce, contact me please.

You got a PM :)