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328power
08-11-2003, 10:28 PM
Was about to buy a 2002 WRX today but they didnt accept my offer : (

Has anyone had one ?

I drove one today its was pretty sweet other than the turbo lag...

Peter1998
08-11-2003, 10:30 PM
get a 2003 WRX sti.. if u want to get one.. dont buy the old model WRX.

EstorilM3
08-11-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Peter1998
get a 2003 WRX sti.. if u want to get one.. dont buy the old model WRX.

Have you checked the price?!:( :( :(
Do so!

Nice cars (except for cheap plastics, and insurance rates), particularly in Winter when fitted with snow tyres.

It's also a cop magnet par exellence....

EstorilM3
08-11-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by 328power
Was about to buy a 2002 WRX today but they didnt accept my offer : (

Has anyone had one ?

I drove one today its was pretty sweet other than the turbo lag...

It must have been a helluva low offer you made.

One would think with the new STi out there, a used XRX (I assume you're talking about used, not new) would be a relative bargain...guess not:(

The clutches are weak in those cars, and it will go on you rather quickly, particularly if you do jack-rabbit starts - bearing in mind the low torque until the turbo comes on.

Plastics are also shoddy - not even third rate :puke: :puke: :puke:

Would make an excellent Winter car, and a good all-around vehicle if you get the station wagon version.

Check this Forum - they will let you know what the car is all about,
http://www.i-club.com/

328power
08-11-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by EstorilM3
It must have been a helluva low offer you made.

One would think with the new STi out there, a used XRX (I assume you're talking about used, not new) would be a relative bargain...guess not:(

The clutches are weak in those cars, and it will go on you rather quickly, particularly if you do jack-rabbit starts - bearing in mind the low torque until the turbo comes on.

Plastics are also shoddy - not even third rate :puke: :puke: :puke:

Would make an excellent Winter car, and a good all-around vehicle if you get the station wagon version.

Check this Forum - they will let you know what the car is all about,
http://www.i-club.com/

yeah it was a 2002 with 37 km ...they were asking 30000 ... i tried making a deal with them but they wouldnt go down on the price with my car as trade in....

Jim .E.
08-12-2003, 12:09 AM
i agree with Peter...STI is a lot better and has some wicked extra's that come with it, but pretty pricey

you were trading your car in and money! ur insane! sorry had to say it...your better off SELLING your car to BMW dealer....then take the money and what you have to put towards a car

HIM
08-12-2003, 12:13 AM
Brand new its $36, 000 so thats not too bad a deal

I hear the turbo breaks a lot in the WRX as well but I think its a great car, insurance is killer though, amazingly fast

Originally posted by Peter1998
get a 2003 WRX sti.. if u want to get one.. dont buy the old model WRX.

Its a lot more in price, theres a big difference between the two cars, if he can't afford a used WRX then how can the STI be an option??

app
08-12-2003, 12:17 AM
To be honest, if you're set on a WRX, see if a good friend within a dealership or licensed mechanic will take you to Milton for the huge car auction. Might take a couple visits, but you might spot the car, and for WAY less than what a dealer will bend you over for.

After being to the auction, and knowing the "real" values of cars before they resell them on the lot, it's sometimes ludicrous what the dealers ask for.

330DTM
08-12-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by HIM
Brand new its $36, 000 so thats not too bad a deal

I hear the turbo breaks a lot in the WRX as well but I think its a great car, insurance is killer though, amazingly fast



Turbo breaks a lot huh? Is this from driving the car stock as it is or from having aftermarket engine components in the car?

I think Subaru would've addressed this kind of issue if the turbo breaks a lot on the car as OEM and plus you mentioned you "heard" about it so it's not a solid fact; I'm not flamming you but just trying to keep things unbiased here.

HIM
08-12-2003, 12:28 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be biased, I even had a thread a few weeks ago about getting the car for myself, and I am still in the process of consideration for that car :D, but I heard that from a BMW saleman I know quite well, don't know if its true but thought I might as well say it heh

golden
08-12-2003, 01:09 AM
wrx is a solid friend, 3 guys at work have em and they've had zero problems, and they all love them

i drove one, and the acceleration is great.

KennyTheGreat
08-12-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by 328power
Was about to buy a 2002 WRX today but they didnt accept my offer : (

Has anyone had one ?

I drove one today its was pretty sweet other than the turbo lag...

Turbo lag?

Granny shift till 3rd and u'll want to let off the throttle, 3rd really pulls hard. 1st and 2nd gear,the turbo only spools half way mind you.

Originally posted by EstorilM3
It must have been a helluva low offer you made.

One would think with the new STi out there, a used XRX (I assume you're talking about used, not new) would be a relative bargain...guess not:(

The clutches are weak in those cars, and it will go on you rather quickly, particularly if you do jack-rabbit starts - bearing in mind the low torque until the turbo comes on.

Plastics are also shoddy - not even third rate :puke: :puke: :puke:

Would make an excellent Winter car, and a good all-around vehicle if you get the station wagon version.


The Clutches are weak? I don't think they go really fast if you drive it properly. You have to slip the clutch when your taking off, you can't just rev up and drop the clutch, the car won't go anywhere and most likely, you'll burn the clutch.

Plastic is shoddy? Where?? Only thing I know about ALL subaru's is their popout cup holders is shit. Worse design on the car. Everything elses seems nice and sturdy.


Originally posted by 328power
yeah it was a 2002 with 37 km ...they were asking 30000 ... i tried making a deal with them but they wouldnt go down on the price with my car as trade in....

maybe you should consider for a 2.5RS if you want a bit cheaper. Bryan can tell you how it is, He loves it...


Originally posted by Jim .E.
i agree with Peter...STI is a lot better and has some wicked extra's that come with it, but pretty pricey

you were trading your car in and money! ur insane! sorry had to say it...your better off SELLING your car to BMW dealer....then take the money and what you have to put towards a car


Sti is very sweet But if not much invested then just go for a WRX.

and for the matter about selling the car, I think he sound sell it private. Thatz how he's gunna make a bit more loot.


Originally posted by HIM
Brand new its $36, 000 so thats not too bad a deal

I hear the turbo breaks a lot in the WRX as well but I think its a great car, insurance is killer though, amazingly fast



Its a lot more in price, theres a big difference between the two cars, if he can't afford a used WRX then how can the STI be an option??

How does the turbo break? The only ways I can think of it breaking is that you raised the boost too high for the turbo to handle, misshift and pop the turbo and motor or spoolin the turbo really high when it's still cold(won't break but it's not too healthy, same goes for a lot of cars, you need to warm them up, You don't just start them and start ripping em around)

Insurance is expensive I agree but it's LEVEL 32 and it's the same insurance rate for a 330. same car you have...

KennyTheGreat
08-12-2003, 01:20 AM
btw, if your really interested in suby's


then come onto

http://www.Toronto-Subaru-Club.com/


check out ther forums, look around, scope out for some more info...




Ken

Gamite
08-12-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by EstorilM3
Have you checked the price?!:( :( :(
Do so!

Nice cars (except for cheap plastics, and insurance rates), particularly in Winter when fitted with snow tyres.

It's also a cop magnet par exellence....

have you checked the speed? 1/4 mile in 13.5!!!

Jon@Bimmersport
08-12-2003, 03:31 AM
i agree with kenny...but from my knowledge u cant "over boost a turbo" cuz a turbo maxes out and can keep at that psi as long as its maintaned....u can only over boost the motor, not turbo....

STI is 36g??? how much is regular WRX??

328power
08-12-2003, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by Gamite
have you checked the speed? 1/4 mile in 13.5!!!

Nope its 14.1 ....dealer showed me today

5.4
0-100 km

i gotta take a better look at them......

The sti is sweet but way out of my range
46000 plus taxes

330DTM
08-12-2003, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
i agree with kenny...but from my knowledge u cant "over boost a turbo" cuz a turbo maxes out and can keep at that psi as long as its maintaned....u can only over boost the motor, not turbo....

STI is 36g??? how much is regular WRX??

What??? More like the regular WRX is $35-36,000 CAD.
The STI is price in the $40,000's CAD, don't know exact. Or are you referring to something else.

Gamite
08-12-2003, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by 328power
Nope its 14.1 ....dealer showed me today

5.4
0-100 km

i gotta take a better look at them......

The sti is sweet but way out of my range
46000 plus taxes

They clocked it 13.5 in some car mag that I read.. but pro drivers and probably slicks.

and you have to admit, for that speed, its a helluva lot cheaper than an M3

HIM
08-12-2003, 03:55 AM
Yea, the STI is over $40k, WRX is around $36k the last time I was at the dealer

KennyTheGreat
08-12-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by 328power
Nope its 14.1 ....dealer showed me today

5.4
0-100 km

i gotta take a better look at them......

The sti is sweet but way out of my range
46000 plus taxes

BOV, Boost Controller, turbo timer...


raise boost to 18psi...side by side stock STI baby *mw*

Spartiatis
08-12-2003, 05:17 AM
Wrx $35 400
$36 400 with moon roof
Sti $48

Putting in an offer for a Wrx this week

Jon@Bimmersport
08-12-2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by 328DTM
What??? More like the regular WRX is $35-36,000 CAD.
The STI is price in the $40,000's CAD, don't know exact. Or are you referring to something else.

someone posted 36g..thought they meant STI...my bad

sonic07
08-13-2003, 04:36 PM
Japs spec. WRX STI,
can this thing race against M3, M5, Z8 .... or what ....

HIM
08-13-2003, 04:58 PM
Isn't the North American Sti one of the first cars that has more hp than the jspec one?? Or is it the evo VII??

mpower1226
08-13-2003, 05:32 PM
328power, give this guy a call. 416-347-8111. a used car dealer but charges less then regular dealer. SKauto trading

mpower1226
08-13-2003, 05:32 PM
328power, give this guy a call. 416-347-8111. a used car dealer but charges less then regular dealer. SKauto trading

Jon@Bimmersport
08-13-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by HIM
Isn't the North American Sti one of the first cars that has more hp than the jspec one?? Or is it the evo VII??

i think STI is exact same as JDM spec

EstorilM3
08-13-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by sonic07
Japs spec. WRX STI,
can this thing race against M3, M5, Z8 .... or what ....

Where did you get those specs???

The last I heard/read, the JDM Sti's had less power, and were only a two litre motors.

This is what I find as the JDM, AND the rest of the World STi specs.

http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/impreza/sti/data_sheet/

It's my understanding that the 2.5 litre 300HP (or whatever, depending on the gas octane rating) STi's are only available in USA, and Canada.

Here is more info...

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk2/04sti.htm

*...When Subaru finally got around to North America, they pulled off that rarest of coups - ours is actually MORE powerful than the Japanese or European versions.

So while RoW (Rest of World) has to struggle along with a sick little 2.0 litre turbo generating a measly 265 horsepower (or 276, depending on whose numbers you believe) we get a unique-to-North America (for the moment) 2.5 litre turbo with a stonking 300 ponies at a modest 6,000 r.p.m., and a matching and massive 300 lb.-ft. of torque at an also-modest 4,000 r.p.m...*

HIM
08-13-2003, 08:01 PM
Yea, thats what I saw on TV, that the North American sti is one of the first cars to have more than the Japanese ones