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umnitza
07-22-2003, 05:09 PM
PRICING

$400 for 4500K
$480 for 5500K
$520 for 5100K
$550 for 6000K

These prices are SHIPPED. And the LAST DAY TO PURCHASE is 8/12.

IMPORTANT:
A little bit of background. NHSTA/DOT has been trying to introduce new laws to regulate the sale of HID... well.. they just decided to BAN ALL HID KITS. They do not have a set regulation because HID does not use a filament.. therefore, no matter how accurate the HID kit is, it fails because of that ONE requirement. Well, DUH, HID has no filament, so it automatically fails.

After 8/15/2003, HID kits as you know it will never be sold again unless new laws are made. I'm sure there are all types of legal issues here,for one, this has all been done without anyone knowing. After 8/15/03, there will be a $5,000 fine PER DAY for vendors selling HID kits.

Therefore, I need to move out ALL my inventory.

All HID kits are now on sale on our website. Parts will still be available and warranties will still be honored after the above date. After 8/15, only parts sold for warranty purposes will be allowed.

You will begin seeing a LOT of HID vendors out there selling kits to move inventory, but we still stress the importance of going with Umnitza/Catz. I am not sure of the future of Umnitza in HID, but Catz will always be there for your warranty and replacement needs.

Video:

HID VIDEO (http://www.umnitza.com/HID/hidpromo1.wmv)

Rising White bulb: 3200 lumens, 202,000 candle power, 2000 hour life expectancy ( halogen is 400 hours )

Bulb info: All are D2S type, 35 watt

Igniter info: OEM equipment for HID in Japan, output voltage to bulb; 18-27kv

Ballast info: OEM equipment for HID in Japan, output voltage; 85volt, 35 watt

All ballast's have Safety Auto Shut-off feature.

HID bulbs place capsule in exact placement of halogen filament even on Hi/Lo kits.

Other Details:
Molded Base - not "hot glued" - but actually MOLDED where the bulb is placed into the mold and the plastic is poured in.
Matsushita Ballast and Igniter - Panasonic's parent company.
GE Bulb - I'm guessing here but they "bring good things to life":D
PnP Install - it took me 5 minutes per side to install them - this is NOT an exaggeration.
Separate Ballast and Igniter Kit Wetzler approved of this setup (for more information view www.geocities.com/kitwetzler). His comment to me was: you won't get the potential for arcing because the ballast is removed from the igniter.
ISO9001 and ISO140001 Certified - not much to say here.
Retails for same price as Philips - and doesn't really go down - it's because of the sheer quantity that allows us to do it.

Here are some pics:

http://www.umnitza.com/HID/iroadfront.jpg
http://www.umnitza.com/HID/vroad.jpg
http://www.umnitza.com/HID/m3b.jpg
http://www.umnitza.com/albums/album06/zkwhidpattern.sized.jpg
http://www.umnitza.com/albums/album06/day.sized.jpg

After this, they are on indefinite back order.

djcontra
07-22-2003, 05:25 PM
Does this apply just to the USA or Canada as well?
What if your car came with HID's stock? How are you supposed to get replacement bulbs if nobody can sell them?
Sounds messed up to me.

umnitza
07-22-2003, 06:01 PM
they aren't going after the OEM just after market.
not sure if you read the last sentence in the "quoted" passage.

djcontra
07-22-2003, 06:21 PM
I just can't seem to understand why aftermarket would be illegal but OEM wouldn't. I can understand that the end-user's headlamps may not be designed for HID and it becomes a problem, but what if your headlight IS made for HID, and you want to save money by buying aftermarket replacement equipment rather than big bucks on OEM/Dealer replacement parts?
I know you might not be able to answer some of these questions, but I thought I'd run them by you just in case because I can imagine you're pretty peeved about all this.

Rolled_Out
07-22-2003, 07:16 PM
I just got some HID's last week, 5500k, and they are AMAZING, the best investment i've made in a long time...
heres a video of my car w/ them..
Definately reccomended to buy them, especially @ the prices Umnitza is offering them @... good deals!
Right click save as (http://teenflavour.com/rsxs/xenon.mpg)

TiemenT
07-22-2003, 07:38 PM
looks amazing man, congrats ! *th-up*

golden
07-22-2003, 08:31 PM
Xenons are the same as HID correct? im confused

my car has xenons

djcontra
07-22-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by golden
Xenons are the same as HID correct? im confused

my car has xenons

Sort of. HID is a type of filamentless bulb, but xenon is the gas inside in place of a filament. You can get all sorts of different HID bulbs with different gasses in them, but xenon was chosen for automotive applications because it ignites at low wattages. The best gas to use would be Metal Halide but it requires at least 250watts to ignite per bulb, but it's a VERY brilliant white light (like what stadiums use). The other kind I'm aware of is High Pressure Sodium which burns orange at high wattages, and those are used in our street lamps at night.
The aftermarket scene has polluted the name ''xenon'' by advertising blue coloured halogen bulbs as ''xenon'' bulbs because they supposedly have a bit of xenon gas in them which causes the light to burn slightly brighter.
The blue halogens are NOT xenon's in my mind, but to many people they are, hence the confusion.

sadda///M
07-22-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Rolled_Out
I just got some HID's last week, 5500k, and they are AMAZING, the best investment i've made in a long time...
heres a video of my car w/ them..
Definately reccomended to buy them, especially @ the prices Umnitza is offering them @... good deals!
Right click save as (http://teenflavour.com/rsxs/xenon.mpg)



====> www.teenflavour.com ====> :P hahaha

ImolaMZ3
07-22-2003, 10:27 PM
Okay, I love HID's. I have them in my IS300 and they are the best thing since sliced bread. The problem I have, and obvioulsy DOT does to, is that people do retrofit's with no regard to intensity or light patterns. I have been blinded by more than one idiot in the last few weeks with a poorly installed/designed kit. There are good kits and bad kits but until they can figure out how to regulate it consider them gone.

I love modifying cars like the everyone else on this board but if we continue to mod our cars such that they endanger other people we are gonna get fined/banned/etc. HID's are an expensive option because it is more than just a bulb and amplifier. The relector, lens, mask, and sometimes the adjuster all need to be replaced. A good OEM version is even self-leveling so that the lights are always correctly aimed no matter what you have in terms of passengers or load.

Sorry for the rant but I am tired of being blinded.

app
07-23-2003, 01:09 AM
So these HID kits, are they the same as "elipsoids" or the ZKW? I really liked the looks of the ZKW headlight kit?

Just curious to find out more info on this.

ambasah
07-23-2003, 02:47 AM
check out thread on e46fanatics for more info.

SpoolinS6
07-23-2003, 02:50 AM
hid wont go illegal on oem cars for sure ?
but this is surprising that this is happening !

M3ti Compact
07-23-2003, 03:24 AM
I've never been blinded by an OEM Xenon equipped car except on inclines etc. However, I have been blinded numerous times by aftermarket kits. Especially the ones installed on cars with bad suspensions...so they "flash" when you drive by them.

For some reason...I don't think OEM Xenon's are as bright as the aftermarket ones...OEM Xenons just have a cleaner colour...but in terms of brightness, it still relies on good old halogen for the high beams.