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TheMadChigga
11-09-2012, 09:57 PM
Which set up is consider the best? I can't see very well at night with the factory set up, I want it to work well at night, last a long time, nothing fancy.

jay01_brown
11-10-2012, 11:25 PM
Good thread. I'd like to know as well.
eBay has soo many phoney "depo" models.
Sux when the imitators have imitators

TSI
11-11-2012, 01:04 AM
If you don't want anything fancy, swapping in a good set of 4300k HIDs would work.

sparf328
11-11-2012, 02:05 AM
zkw's, with 75 watt hid's and whatever your preferred temp may be 6000k, 5000k, i forget wat temp projects the most lumens...

TSI
11-11-2012, 12:01 PM
3500-5000 is best for luminosity, also doesn't look ricertastic. 4300k is OEM.

T.Dot_E30
11-11-2012, 12:22 PM
ZKW or Bosch euros are best if you want to spend the money.
If not Depos or DJ Auto from DDM are decent for the price.

Don't even think about those one piece piles of crap from eBay.

uber e36
11-11-2012, 07:03 PM
I have ZKW with 6k HID. Works well and doesn't look ricey.

BMXWill
11-11-2012, 08:31 PM
Bosch or ZKW! There are pairs in great shape on bimmerforums all the time for $300-350. HID's are good for output but look pretty rice in an e36 regardless of intensity. I know because I had them.

doogee
11-12-2012, 03:19 AM
Bosch.

Depo's are garbage.

jay01_brown
11-12-2012, 03:22 AM
Bosch.

Depo's are garbage.

Maybe, but they are still an upgrade from the us spec units.

doogee
11-12-2012, 04:02 AM
Maybe, but they are still an upgrade from the us spec units.

Maybe for optics. But the build quality is terrible. Depo's WILL break. The plastic is unbelievably brittle.

sparf328
11-12-2012, 04:35 AM
meh the only time you can possibly break depos is when you are installing them, so unless your a giant ogre with ogre hands, you should be fine, thats not to say there a high quality product, but the projectors and glass are perfect, they look and work very well

SiR
11-12-2012, 12:12 PM
all of them are prone to breakage especially old/used bosch units(old plastic is old plasitc)

moral of the story is to handle any headlight you have with care.

hid kit in any of mentioned headlights is rice because they are halogen projectors not meant for hid lighting.

NOTORIOUS VR
11-12-2012, 04:52 PM
meh the only time you can possibly break depos is when you are installing them, so unless your a giant ogre with ogre hands, you should be fine, thats not to say there a high quality product, but the projectors and glass are perfect, they look and work very well

My experience with DEPO brand headlights has always been great... not sure about knock off DEPO but the real stuff is great especially considering the price point.

jay01_brown
11-12-2012, 04:59 PM
My experience with DEPO brand headlights has always been great... not sure about knock off DEPO but the real stuff is great especially considering the price point.

Where did you get yours from?
eBay is full of replica depos
If I'm gonna get a replica,I'd want the depos, not some other brand riding off the depo name

Dinanstu
11-12-2012, 05:23 PM
Umnitza...

Flea Bay is useless

Hurricane240
11-13-2012, 11:53 AM
OEM's properly aimed with good bulbs and lenses that are not hazzed.

Cheapest and they will outlast your car.

minh12
11-13-2012, 12:25 PM
OEM's properly aimed with good bulbs and lenses that are not hazzed.

Cheapest and they will outlast your car.

are these still hids? where could i get these?

NOTORIOUS VR
11-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Where did you get yours from?
eBay is full of replica depos
If I'm gonna get a replica,I'd want the depos, not some other brand riding off the depo name

Ebay from a reputable seller

Dysantic
11-13-2012, 02:47 PM
I bought a set of DJ Auto's from DDM about a year and a bit ago. Probably the best decision I've made for my e36. The glass on them is thick and strong while the housings are extremely sturdy. I've had zero problems with them since I put them in. I have 6000k in the headlights and 8000k in the fogs. I see perfectly fine at night. Plus the lenses don't have all that garbage writing on them that Depo's do.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/E36-DJ-Auto-European-Headlights-HID-Kit-included

aristo
11-13-2012, 05:01 PM
I've been looking at ebay and other forums for the better half of a month for a good deal on these lights zkw/depo/djauto..
The best deal I found so far for brand new lights.. especially with shipping, unlike the other sellers who charge alot more to Canada. I"m probably gonna get them shipped to cbi with a m3 bumper.

http://stores.ebay.com/Eurosport-Garage/E36-92-98-318-323-325-328-M3-/_i.html?_fsub=20896543&_sid=44268313&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

Dinanstu
11-13-2012, 05:11 PM
You want customer service and a quality product. The guys at Umnitza are top shelf guys that back their product.

Predator Orion V2 with 6K HID bulbs, with angle eyes installed and do the fogs in HID as well, or else it looks yellow...

Shipping was $50, using Canada Post. If you are in a rush, use Fedex.

PS

1 ea. canbus for hids--find rubber back cover if possible $0.00
1 ea. DEPO DOT/US Ellipsoid (WITH OPTIONS)
Angel Eyes - Predator Orion V2
Xenon - OEM Xenon D2S System
Xenon - !No Thank You
Pre-Installed - Yes, Please
Color - 6000K
Bulbs - 1 pair Xenix
$390.00
1 ea. fog canbus kit 6k $90.00
1 ea. smkd corners $30.00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

$510.00Sub-Total
$50.00SHIPPING
$560.00Total

njansenv
11-13-2012, 09:10 PM
I've installed Depo's on two E36's now. I like 'em. WAY better than OEM US spec.

bmw.ae
11-14-2012, 02:05 AM
I've been looking at ebay and other forums for the better half of a month for a good deal on these lights zkw/depo/djauto..
The best deal I found so far for brand new lights.. especially with shipping, unlike the other sellers who charge alot more to Canada. I"m probably gonna get them shipped to cbi with a m3 bumper.

http://stores.ebay.com/Eurosport-Garage/E36-92-98-318-323-325-328-M3-/_i.html?_fsub=20896543&_sid=44268313&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

lol i got m3 mirrors from them a few years back, it worked out well and didnt cost more than 50$ shipping in..
but ZKW all the way and hids on e36 doesnt look ricey 6000k and under

T.Dot_E30
11-14-2012, 10:14 AM
Check out http://www.khoalty.com/bmw-e36/lights.html as a alternative to DDM. Slightly high priced, but they gave me a good price with Duties/Taxes In.

DDM can be a pain to deal with and had long ship times back in the day, not sure how things have changed lately.

3x Beemer
11-14-2012, 03:40 PM
do the bulbs say what they are on them? My car came with ZKW's with HID's, I've never opened them up except to change a glass lens once.
I want to know what strength bulb I have as I love the look and would want the exact ones if they were ever to burn out.

Axxe
11-17-2012, 10:53 AM
Well, I'm looking to buy two sets (one for my car one for my brother's coupe), if anyone is interested we can look into setting up a group buy to at least save on shipping, maybe get a better deal too. I would be looking for depo/dj auto with 4300k HID's in both, and a set of smoked corners + sidemarkers for both a 96 sedan and 98 coupe.

NOTORIOUS VR
11-17-2012, 09:58 PM
Well I can officially say that depo headlights for the E36 are the worst thing I have ever experienced. Both lights broke while trying to clop in the DEPO corner lights and after closer inspection I see now that it's the actual molding pushing out against the corner light that cause the crappy and very brittle plastic to break.

Trying to work something out with the ebay seller but I'm not going to hold my breath. I will probably just have to pony up cash for another set of lights that most certainly won't be DEPO brand


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uber e36
11-20-2012, 09:38 PM
Look ricey?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/21/umy6uba4.jpg

uber e36
11-21-2012, 08:35 AM
OT: Notorious, when did you get an e36? My handle on AZ is qwks4. I had a Nogaro B5 and now have a b7. Great daily driver, but my e36 is my hobby. Welcome to the club!

T.Dot_E30
11-21-2012, 09:47 AM
Well I can officially say that depo headlights for the E36 are the worst thing I have ever experienced. Both lights broke while trying to clop in the DEPO corner lights and after closer inspection I see now that it's the actual molding pushing out against the corner light that cause the crappy and very brittle plastic to break.

Trying to work something out with the ebay seller but I'm not going to hold my breath. I will probably just have to pony up cash for another set of lights that most certainly won't be DEPO brand


Hmm interesting, most people break them trying to take them off by prying the clips to much...


I didn't have any issues with mine and I've taken the corners off a few times, you just have to be careful with what you are prying as it's plastic. However, I can't remember mine were depos or dj auto. Maybe you got the cheaper ebay depo reps (haha reps of reps) that people talk about.

T.Dot_E30
11-21-2012, 09:49 AM
OEM's properly aimed with good bulbs and lenses that are not hazzed.

Cheapest and they will outlast your car.

lol this made me laugh, sorry your better off lighting a few candles than using the US Spec headlamps.

TheMadChigga
11-29-2012, 10:33 AM
Well, I'm looking to buy two sets (one for my car one for my brother's coupe), if anyone is interested we can look into setting up a group buy to at least save on shipping, maybe get a better deal too. I would be looking for depo/dj auto with 4300k HID's in both, and a set of smoked corners + sidemarkers for both a 96 sedan and 98 coupe.

I'm down for that, anyone know if DEPO or anyone else sells the projector light without angel eyes? those seems to be more ideal for HIDs no?

aristo
11-29-2012, 03:04 PM
**I'm not affiliated with the seller**

These have been on kijiji for awhile. Seems kinda expensive imo but, some one here might be interested in these.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-auto-body-parts-Bmw-e36-original-ZKW-glass-headlights-W0QQAdIdZ433604427

jay01_brown
11-29-2012, 04:50 PM
I'm down for that, anyone know if DEPO or anyone else sells the projector light without angel eyes? those seems to be more ideal for HIDs no?

I'm in as well... How can we set this up. I've been looking to buy a set for months now, just can't get pass the $100 shipping...

5style
12-15-2012, 01:29 AM
zkws, since i upgraded, there is no comparison. Also, all the reflector parts inside ZKs are METAL, no plastic like depo or even bosch.

Light output phenomenal. I got mine from germany for $250 shipped, and spend another $25 on the harness and switch for electric leveling. I now can aim my lights in the city to super low for potholes and high on say mulholland at night... cough.

5style
12-15-2012, 01:34 AM
**I'm not affiliated with the seller**

These have been on kijiji for awhile. Seems kinda expensive imo but, some one here might be interested in these.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-auto-body-parts-Bmw-e36-original-ZKW-glass-headlights-W0QQAdIdZ433604427

these are not factory zkws, as factory ones are stamped bmw. These look like OEM rather then OE, not sure if the guts differ. I got OE zkws and the guts are 100% METAL, and thus the light output is phenomenal.

Axxe
12-16-2012, 02:22 PM
Anybody want to take lead on this? Lets start a list of who wants what:

1) Axxe: Depo/DJ, 4300k 55W HID, no angel eyes, sedan corners and side markers (both smoked)
2) Axxe's Brother: Depo/DJ, 4300k 55W HID, no angel eyes, coupe corners and side markers (both smoked)
3) MadChiga: Depo/DJ/ZKW? HID's? No angel eyes.
4) jay01_brown: Depo/DJ/ZKW? HID's? Angel eyes? Corners? Sidemarkers?
5)

Add your name to list above and update your options/comments as required. I know DDM has lights, and so does Koalty (sp?). Anybody want to volunteer to do the legwork on getting some pricing? I don't really have the time to deal with this until the new year.

5style
12-16-2012, 02:42 PM
get used ZKWs and don't cheap out on depos, the only thing depo is ok at making are marker lights and corners, even depo tails suck as their seals leak water. I had depos, never again. The tabs didn't break off all over, that being saidm the light output was pitiful

jay01_brown
12-16-2012, 03:06 PM
4) jay01_brown: Depo/DJ/ZKW 4300k 55w HID No angel eyes SEDAN clear corners (97-99) smoked side markers (97-99) I would like the depo gen5/projector36 style

sparf328
12-22-2012, 02:10 AM
5) zkw (coupe, post 97) 4300k hid, highest wattage ballast available, no angel eyes, smoked side markers and smoked corner lights..

ill be selling my recently new depo's with 6000k, 75w prolumen hid's, literally one season on them...pm me if interested

does anyone have a solution to the crappy seal on the depo tails?

AZ_E36
12-22-2012, 06:29 AM
I did something a little different with my car..... My upgrade was FREE. and can see MUCH better.... you should see those jerks who have their brights on, then I hit mine, they shut off theirs REAL fast....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/Bakr_Sk8er/11_zps413a5968.jpg


as you can see there are some rough edges, but ive done more with them since. cleaned up those broken edges and sealed them with black silicone. you cant even see the silicone right now, but it makes them water tight, and I prefer the look. Its always another option instead of spending $400 on headlights that take rock hits anyway. I have been running mine like this for about 8 months. no issues

///M325i
01-11-2013, 04:00 PM
I've managed to add a few things such as city lights in the high beam slot, 8000k HID's in the low beam slot as well as angel eye rings and french fog down below. The headlights themselves are smoked as well. (keep in mind all this is done to stock 1994 325i headlights) OEM/stock is the best lol

5style
01-14-2013, 09:08 PM
I've managed to add a few things such as city lights in the high beam slot, 8000k HID's in the low beam slot as well as angel eye rings and french fog down below. The headlights themselves are smoked as well. (keep in mind all this is done to stock 1994 325i headlights) OEM/stock is the best lol

for blinding everyone. Thank god you have eyebrows, as maybe they cut off some of the glare.

SiR
01-15-2013, 11:45 AM
8000k HID's in the low beam slot. (keep in mind all this is done to stock 1994 325i headlights) l

TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE set up. blinding/glare all over. Do it right or dont do it at all. Take out the HID's and go learn something.
ricers fcplm

///M325i
01-18-2013, 10:18 PM
TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE set up. blinding/glare all over. Do it right or dont do it at all. Take out the HID's and go learn something.
ricers fcplm

Didn't i already go over this with you "SIR?" The car hasn't been driven for the last 3 year! lol So i haven't blinded any one get that straight. I'm getting around to retrofitting the HID's get it through your head...:moon:

///M325i
01-18-2013, 10:21 PM
for blinding everyone. Thank god you have eyebrows, as maybe they cut off some of the glare.

I don't have eyebrows... My lights are smoked and the previous owner worked in the illusion of the lights/corners looking like they have eyebrows by darkening the top part of the them... non of that clip on eyebrow sh**t for my car

1BADBMR
01-19-2013, 12:55 AM
Ever hear the saying... "What you pay for, is what you get" ?

Bought my ZKW's 4 years ago and couldn't be happier (see sig :cool:)
Customer Service and Product met my expectations
ZERO complaints

5style
01-20-2013, 04:49 PM
Ever hear the saying... "What you pay for, is what you get" ?

Bought my ZKW's 4 years ago and couldn't be happier (see sig :cool:)
Customer Service and Product met my expectations
ZERO complaints

In the same boat. ZKWs or Bosch. Period. Depo can take its crappy plastic back home.