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Woodbronks
08-27-2012, 02:01 PM
A vid of me lapping at CSCS Round 4 Aug19 2012 at Cayuga


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Enjoy!!

Nolimit77
08-27-2012, 03:22 PM
Very nice!*th-up* I wanted to come by and say hi that day as we were the only E36's there competing. I was in the green 328i E36 btw

Where did you end up in your class?

Woodbronks
08-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Thanks man.. ya I was just down from where you were pitted, I ended up 4th in class that day, previous races 3rd .. I got stuck in the unlimted class because of my tires but great times so far this year!

nab24-
08-27-2012, 07:26 PM
what all do you got done under the hood?

Nolimit77
08-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Ya, I was in SSR due to my rs3s. I wouldn't mind running in that class if I wasn't up against e92 m3s and vettes. The guy who won my class was Riaan and he runs in ota(as do I). He is 4 classes ahead of me in that series but at CSCS we are in the same one. Oh wellz, I still managed a PB.

What time did you run?

Woodbronks
08-27-2012, 08:46 PM
what all do you got done under the hood?


well it's 328is motor Turner Pullys,M50 Manifold, AFE Intake, Clutch Fan delete,ASC delete,A/C delete, vibrant Catback exhaust, 3:15 gears out back, rest it's a normal car

Woodbronks
08-27-2012, 08:54 PM
Ya, I was in SSR due to my rs3s. I wouldn't mind running in that class if I wasn't up against e92 m3s and vettes. The guy who won my class was Riaan and he runs in ota(as do I). He is 4 classes ahead of me in that series but at CSCS we are in the same one. Oh wellz, I still managed a PB.

What time did you run?

Ya at CSCS it's odd classes based on tires brakes and interior hard to be competitive but I guees your racing your time not others,
all is good. I run a 1:25ish as my practice lapping and timed times on this new MyLaps system which is nice, good on you for the PB i knocked off a tenth this time from the first race *rockout*

Nolimit77
08-28-2012, 08:18 AM
Ya, I was stoked to get a 1:22.8 and didn't really care who was in my class at that point.

Have you been out to an OTA event before?

Woodbronks
08-28-2012, 08:44 AM
Nice thats a good time, little by little i'm working my way down to those times....
No never been to an OTA event just looked it up this morning to see what it was about, it look's to be fun with the tracks you get to drive and more events even!

Nolimit77
08-28-2012, 09:09 AM
You can get there for sure. I think I will be at the next CSCS TMP event so if your looking for any pointers, drop by.

As for OTA, we have two events at the Mosport GP track this weekend(events 7 & 8). Only $275 for the day which is cheap for that track. In fact, if three people get together, it is only $260. If you have any questions about OTA, shoot me a PM. *th-up*

Heres the CASC OTA link --> http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11

craz azn
08-28-2012, 09:34 AM
A vid of me lapping at CSCS Round 4 Aug19 2012 at Cayuga

Just a friendly suggestion that you should maybe consider going to a formal driving school... You have a lot of umm.. interesting habits. You will find taking a simple school will make you become smoother, and ultimately, faster.

davericher20
08-28-2012, 11:52 AM
Its great that youre going to the track, but if you want to be a better driver out of the gate start with a school like Rudy said. Then you can go back and rape just about anything that steps on the track at a cscs event.
There are def a few bad habits that i noticed (unsolicited advice, take it however you please)

Missing just about every apex
Braking waaaay too early
Not getting on the gas soon enough
Wrong gear for certain turns.
I dont think i heard even 1 blip of the throttle while you're downshifting so you're not heel toeing
And last but not least you're sitting too far back from the steering wheel. Your arm should still be bent when it's at the top of the steering wheel.
Im going to the school sept 8th and 9th, you should come too, waaaay different than a cscs event. $500 for 2 days of lapping mosport gp with class and in car instruction.

Woodbronks
08-28-2012, 12:01 PM
re
Ya for sure if your at the next CSCS I will stop by for sure any tips do help, i'm doing some reading here at my lunch about the OTA events I just may join for next year i'm going to see what I have to do to get the car ready for an event like those, example...cage,seats,belts,suit if needed etc.....

re
I have considered a school just waiting for the full race car to be built not my street car.. even thow I have lots to learn, it is my first full year on a track and only 5th track session went once last year and it was a blast.... what school do you recomend in Canada? can you elaborate on my interesting habits, any pointers?

Nolimit77
08-28-2012, 12:35 PM
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Ya for sure if your at the next CSCS I will stop by for sure any tips do help, i'm doing some reading here at my lunch about the OTA events I just may join for next year i'm going to see what I have to do to get the car ready for an event like those, example...cage,seats,belts,suit if needed etc.....

re
I have considered a school just waiting for the full race car to be built not my street car.. even thow I have lots to learn, it is my first full year on a track and only 5th track session went once last year and it was a blast.... what school do you recomend in Canada? can you elaborate on my interesting habits, any pointers?

I was going to point out some mistakes in the video but it really is hard to instruct when not actually inside the car. That being said, listen to what the others in this thread have said! Going to a few different schools will help dramatically and will in the end make you a much better driver. I would definitely look into OTA and BMW trillium schools as they seem to have the best bang for buck. There are schools such as skip barber but they are allot more expensive and only available south of the border.

Before you do anything, make sure you know where you want to go with this sport so you do not end up wasting money. It is expensive afterall! :D

Oh and btw, in OTA you do not require a cage, harnesses, seats or suits to compete.

Class your car here --> http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/Default.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fccdb%2fCC%2fPIPScheduleE dit.aspx%3fID%3d2821%26Car_ID%3d2661&ID=2821&Car_ID=2661

Rule are here--> http://www.casc.on.ca/timeattack_rules

craz azn
08-28-2012, 12:43 PM
I have considered a school just waiting for the full race car to be built not my street car.. even thow I have lots to learn, it is my first full year on a track and only 5th track session went once last year and it was a blast.... what school do you recomend in Canada? can you elaborate on my interesting habits, any pointers?

The Trillium school at Mosport is taking place on Sept 8-9. That's a pretty good one, especially when you factor in the money spent and the amount of track time you get. And you get an instructor assigned to you, and they will work with you throughout the weekend.

Habits? I only watched about a min or two of the video... just from that alone, a few things that stood out to me was seating position and hand placement on the wheel. You need to be seated into as much of the seat as possible so you are comfortable, and that you aren't moving around like a rag doll. How can you feel what the car is doing in your backside when you are moving around in your seat that much? Hand placement on the wheel... generally you want to keep your hands at 9 and 3 on the wheel (granted there are some exceptions to that, but for the most part, that's where you want to be when on track) so it keeps you square with the 4 corners of the car, as well as not loosing track of center... what happens if you slide? You won't know how much opposite lock to feed in to catch it.. and you end up with one of those tank slappers that keeps on going... and going. Remember to be calm and not 'choke' the wheel too... you will act more fluidly with reactions if you are calm and not tensed up.

T.Dot_E30
08-28-2012, 01:21 PM
I have considered a school just waiting for the full race car to be built not my street car..


I would defiantly not wait to do a school until you have a full race car. In fact you should have probably done a school sooner, it really teaches you the basics that no lapping day will teach you, especially a CSCS lapping day. Go to CSCS for fun and to compete in the time attack, not to learn...

SiR
08-28-2012, 02:31 PM
Go to CSCS for fun and to compete in the time attack, not to learn...

dont agree with that last part. Obviously its not a school but you always learn something each time you step on the track regardless of the event.

craz azn
08-28-2012, 03:00 PM
dont agree with that last part. Obviously its not a school but you always learn something each time you step on the track regardless of the event.

Disagree.

It is hard to be in the correct mindset to learn anything at an event like this because you have to worry more about your surroundings than anything with the caliber of some drivers/cars at this event.

T.Dot_E30
08-28-2012, 03:36 PM
Okay maybe I should have specified, 'Learn the basics....'

I don't think someone should be going to CSCS to 'Learn' if they've never been to a school or a more formal place to learn the basics of being on a track. A few minute driver's meeting at a lapping day doesn't give you the foundation to go out and learn on your own.

Nolimit77
08-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Disagree.

It is hard to be in the correct mindset to learn anything at an event like this because you have to worry more about your surroundings than anything with the caliber of some drivers/cars at this event.

This is true for most of the open lapping sessions but there were some later in the day which provided some open track, not to mention the timed runs in the afternoon. It can certainly go both ways.

The red Mazdaspeed in that video was without a doubt the absolute worst driver I had ever been on track with. It was actually dangerous and I had to pull in to get away from him. I kept hoping they would black flag him but no such luck.

Nolimit77
08-28-2012, 03:44 PM
Okay maybe I should have specified, 'Learn the basics....'

I don't think someone should be going to CSCS to 'Learn' if they've never been to a school or a more formal place to learn the basics of being on a track. A few minute driver's meeting at a lapping day doesn't give you the foundation to go out and learn on your own.

Bingo. The drivers meeting didn't even include a discussion about the flags. fcplm Not sure what would have happened if the red flag came out...

Woodbronks
08-28-2012, 06:18 PM
I agree it is more for fun as your not classed to compete on a serious level... but any track time is learing time or at least seat time... I always wondered what would people do if a serious flag came out as there not explained in the meetings, only if you read the rules then agan if you READ THEM at all that is.....
Even when the signal to pass come on ... people are on left people on right side, no standerd or rule so you do have to watch for others,
I always ask what has the least people for novice/advanced lapping and go with it... then agan I do get stuck behind people learning or out for there sunday drive lol

Woodbronks
08-28-2012, 06:20 PM
I'll still go for seat time and build a car in the mean time maybe the next couple of years i'll be out at OTA event's they seem like a little more advanced and get real time behind the wheel at real tracks...

doogee
08-28-2012, 09:05 PM
I have considered a school just waiting for the full race car to be built not my street car.

Don't wait. You'll learn way more in a road car.

SiR
08-28-2012, 09:19 PM
Okay maybe I should have specified, 'Learn the basics....'

I don't think someone should be going to CSCS to 'Learn' if they've never been to a school or a more formal place to learn the basics of being on a track. A few minute driver's meeting at a lapping day doesn't give you the foundation to go out and learn on your own.

I agree with that!

Just disagree saying you cant learn something at cscs even if on your own...regardless of whats going on around you.
in fact you can say it teaches you to watch for bad drivers and watch your surroundings ;)


You can definitely pick up some bad habits , but practicing is learning imo. Thats how I have viewed sports my whole life...and I dont see auto racing as being any different.

davericher20
08-29-2012, 12:19 AM
You can definitely pick up some bad habits , but practicing is learning imo. Thats how I have viewed sports my whole life...and I dont see auto racing as being any different.

there's a quote I heard that applies to this
"You don't know what you don't know"

practicing what? practicing without a coach is practicing bad skills.

Racer
08-29-2012, 02:09 AM
cool helmet
awesome gloves
need more apex
it was me in my mom's red mazda, i wasn't dangerous, i was racing
don't listen to the guys above, they are just posers, go biuld a race car and enter an hpde championship.

Woodbronks
08-29-2012, 01:32 PM
there's a quote I heard that applies to this
"You don't know what you don't know"

practicing what? practicing without a coach is practicing bad skills.

That's why i'm asking what to improve, practice is still practice knowing what works and what does not.... but it's seat time and thats better then need for speed on a PS3..... that being said maybe next event i'll ask a pro to get in with me and let me have it *uzi*

Woodbronks
08-29-2012, 01:41 PM
cool helmet
awesome gloves
need more apex
it was me in my mom's red mazda, i wasn't dangerous, i was racing
don't listen to the guys above, they are just posers, go biuld a race car and enter an hpde championship.



Thanks designed the helmet watching F1 one sunday:cool:....
race car coming just seems to cost lots of money LOTS and LOTS....i'm finding as parts list grows or jumping between whats needed and what can wait lol oh the fun of life and working

SiR
08-29-2012, 03:23 PM
brooooo mbna 0% have the race car built yesterday!*





















*not liable for any hot water you get into ;)

Woodbronks
08-29-2012, 03:43 PM
brooooo mbna 0% have the race car built yesterday!*








*not liable for any hot water you get into ;)

haha I wish it was that easy..maybe it is lol :idea:...

craz azn
08-29-2012, 04:04 PM
What are you building as a 'racecar'?

Woodbronks
08-29-2012, 05:20 PM
What are you building as a 'racecar'?

it will be my E36 , and to look like a lightweight but in all fairness it will just be another E36 racer all done up for full out racing and just for start and money wise OTA events and CSCS stuff nothing too serious, but in the end i'm a true BMW fan and would not want anything other then a bimmer

T.Dot_E30
08-29-2012, 05:26 PM
You should buy this, it would probably cost this or more eventually if you were to build one yourself.

Kurt even titled it a 'racecar' so it fits the bill *wave*
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152864

craz azn
08-29-2012, 08:07 PM
You should buy this, it would probably cost this or more eventually if you were to build one yourself.

Kurt even titled it a 'racecar' so it fits the bill *wave*
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152864

Damn! I didn't even know it was posted on this forum too, haha!

+1 on buying an already finished car versus building. And its local!

Woodbronks
08-30-2012, 05:21 PM
Damn! I didn't even know it was posted on this forum too, haha!

+1 on buying an already finished car versus building. And its local!

Damn wish I had money sitting aroundfcplm, fun to build one but also cheaper to buy used one