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Mystikal
07-16-2012, 04:40 PM
Last year we decided to enter Mike's E36/S54 into the CSCS time attack event at Mosport DDT. We never received tires in time and ended up running a horribly mismatched set of street rubber (Dunlop Z1 SS front, Falken FK452 rear...yuck) on two different sets of wheels. Oversteer was ridiculous and I spent most of the day chasing the tail of the car. Somehow we landed a final time quick enough for an easy win:

http://www.stancefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/CSCS-July-17th-Times.jpg

http://www.stancefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/07172011541.jpg

This winter, a friend of ours casually proposed the idea of taking his 996 GT3 Porsche out and going for another win. Who are we to argue with such an idea?

Unfortunately, CSCS classification bumps his car into the Super Street class where R-compound tires are allowed. The GT3 owner didn't have a set of R-comps and we all agreed it would be a waste of $2k to buy a set just for one day. So we entered with Michelin PS2 street tires and the intention (wish?) of outdriving the class.

The plan almost worked. Throughout the day we were stuck in fourth place behind cars with stickier tires and more power than the 380 the N/A Porsche puts out. Still, we made adjustments and kept finding another few tenths per each 20min practice/qualifying session. We felt good about our chances.

http://www.stancefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/image002.jpg

Then the rain started. We were thrilled with this. Our Michelins, while easily giving up 1.5-2 seconds per lap to the R-compounds in the dry, would be much more competitive in the wet. Sadly, the sun came out and by the time the top qualifiers were starting their timed runs the track was bone-dry. Damn.

Odds against us, we staged for 3 timed laps. We edged out the previous 2nd and 3rd place qualifiers (modified and R-comp wearing widebody FD RX-7 and E90 M3, respectively) by just enough for 2nd place. Full timing info: http://livetiming.net/cscs/

We finished 2nd in class, 10th overall, and 2.6 seconds ahead of the next fastest car on street tires. *th-up*

http://www.stancefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/image001.jpg

You can find more pics here in tdott.me's facebook album: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.380367832029016.79650.182376801828121&type=1

Thanks to everyone who was out at Mosport DDT yesterday. We had a great time and hope to do more events like this in the future.

SiR
07-16-2012, 05:01 PM
good stuff!

but most people frown on cscs here...

craz azn
07-16-2012, 05:57 PM
Good drive dude, congrats on the podium! I was watching live timing for most of the duration of the TA. What was the winning car in your class?

1BADBMR
07-16-2012, 06:47 PM
I wish my my buddy threw me the keys to his porsche *sad*

Steve30
07-16-2012, 07:27 PM
Congrats! I wanted to come up but the rain was pretty bad down here.

///M-TRD3
07-17-2012, 04:16 AM
Congratulations Fellas!

BigD
07-17-2012, 08:35 AM
Congrats man!

I have no problem with CSCS but it must be a record, flipping 2 cars within a year without going off the track. Insert VTEC joke.

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T.Dot_E30
07-17-2012, 10:12 AM
Congrats Jay! with R-Comps I'm sure you'd finish on top.


Some more photos and event coverage here: CSCS Round #3 - tdott.me (http://www.tdott.me/2012/07/event-coverage-cscs-round-3-july-15.html)

http://just.razzi.me/photos/677144/ab9142a.jpg (http://razzi.me/p/677144)
http://just.razzi.me/photos/677088/f880595.jpg (http://razzi.me/p/677088)
http://just.razzi.me/photos/677029/36e981e.jpg (http://razzi.me/p/677029)

Mystikal
07-17-2012, 12:26 PM
Good drive dude, congrats on the podium! I was watching live timing for most of the duration of the TA. What was the winning car in your class?

Thanks man! Winner was a stripped 370Z with aero and 265 R888s all around. Excellent driver too, obviously. His times were barely under the unlimited cars.

I wish my my buddy threw me the keys to his porsche *sad*

I had enough opposite-lock heart-stoppers to make me wonder if it was a good idea myself. Learning to drive a rear-engine car during a competitive event was interesting to say the least.

Congrats! I wanted to come up but the rain was pretty bad down here.

Should have come up! The rain mostly missed Mosport.

Congratulations Fellas!

Thanks Sheldon

Congrats man!

I have no problem with CSCS but it must be a record, flipping 2 cars within a year without going off the track. Insert VTEC joke.

What's wild is that I didn't even hear about that until the day was over. I was in the staging area waiting for my run and had zero clue that was going on a few hundred feet away. They cleaned it up FAST.

Thanks for the pics Trev!

BMXWill
07-18-2012, 03:18 AM
What happened on the 2nd or 3rd lap where it looked like you shut it down out of turn 1 until mid straight? Was it a flag issue? I noticed it caused the guy in the RX-7 to catch up and get stuck. He seemed super pissed off afterwards lol

Mystikal
07-18-2012, 01:23 PM
Combination of things. The time attack grouping was good in concept this year, where they just sorted everyone by qualifying times and put out groups of five. Well for some reason an RSX that qualified way, way slower than our group was allowed out with our pack. He must have missed his group's session and they permitted him to jump into ours. In staging I could hear the guy warning the marshal that he didn't want to get in anybody's way but the CSCS staff told him don't worry about it. So, we had a relatively slow sixth car in the group instead of five near-identical cars.

I caught him on my second timed lap. I waited a long, long time to get some space so I could have a chance of another clean air lap. Then on my next attempt, after letting him go about 1/4 of the way around the track ahead, I caught him AGAIN. Then the RX-7 caught up to me as a result, and he just did not get the concept of waiting for space. In the end my final timed lap was my quickest but I made two big errors as a result of the RX-7 poking his nose inside of me in a few braking zones. I pleaded my case after I returned to the paddock but they wouldn't let me back out. Because I caught the RSX in the back straight and waited there, the marshals at the pit straight didn't notice that I had to sacrifice another lap time because of the slow traffic. My best lap of the day in practice was within a few tenths of the winning 370Z's final time and I truly feel I had a chance of beating him.

TL;DR: Slow car allowed out in wrong group, Porsche got cock blocked, CSCS didn't care.

Nolimit77
07-18-2012, 01:35 PM
Come out to an OTA time-attack event and that won't happen! Having said that, I still plan on doing a CSCS event as I like supporting ALL series whenever I can! *rockout*

Steve30
07-18-2012, 01:36 PM
What happened? Another car flipped?

doogee
07-18-2012, 09:06 PM
Come out to an OTA time-attack event and that won't happen! Having said that, I still plan on doing a CSCS event as I like supporting ALL series whenever I can! *rockout*

I second this. Start going to some more serious events *th-up*

You gotta start coming over to the GP!

Nolimit77
07-18-2012, 09:57 PM
I second this. Start going to some more serious events *th-up*

You gotta start coming over to the GP!

Next OTA event is at the GP track! Cannot wait.

You coming out? If I find two new people(to the OTA series)for this event, we would only have to pay $250/ea rather than $275/ea.

doogee
07-18-2012, 10:02 PM
Next OTA event is at the GP track! Cannot wait.

You coming out? If I find two new people(to the OTA series)for this event, we would only have to pay $250/ea rather than $275/ea.

I'll be there to check it out. *th-up*

Nolimit77
07-19-2012, 09:37 AM
I'll be there to check it out. *th-up*

Competing or watching?

BMW BMXer
07-19-2012, 04:11 PM
http://www.stanceiseverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jay_1.jpg

Sadly the only pic I got.

Fun to watch though.

azn330i
07-24-2012, 05:30 PM
Great driving Mystikal! *th-up*

I was in the E90 M3.
I too thought it was going to be a wet timed run, so I switched to street tires. Who knew it would already be dry when our group was up. fcplm
I saw Daniel (class winning 370Z) switch from R-comps to streets and then back to R-comps! Talk about dedication! I was just too lazy. *sleep*

Was fun running with you!

Mystikal
07-24-2012, 07:00 PM
Nice to see you on max, Michael. It was a very fun day, I was actually under the impression you had won the class for a period of time. It wasn't until I got home that I saw that it was Daniel.

Will you be at the Sigma event next weekend? I just learned of the series and I'm considering entering. I noticed that you've left your mark on their leaderboard recently, nice work! If I go I'll be handicapped on street tires, again.

azn330i
07-25-2012, 05:41 PM
I have family duties during that long weekend and will have to miss it. Sigma events are great, friendly organizers and good competitors. You will enjoy it. We need more Euro cars to knock off the JDM cars from the top of the leaderboard.
Hope to see you at another event.

hockeyfan27
07-26-2012, 10:23 AM
http://www.stanceiseverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jay_1.jpg

Sadly the only pic I got.

Fun to watch though.

Is that a GoPro I see? Any video to share?

Mystikal
07-26-2012, 12:36 PM
I have family duties during that long weekend and will have to miss it. Sigma events are great, friendly organizers and good competitors. You will enjoy it. We need more Euro cars to knock off the JDM cars from the top of the leaderboard.
Hope to see you at another event.

Ah that's too bad. Hopefully we'll meet on track again soon.

Is that a GoPro I see? Any video to share?

CSCS strapped it to the car and it's their footage, unfortunately. If they watch it they'll gain a new appreciation for the ass of the Acura RSX.

Blades
07-26-2012, 03:56 PM
2 POS Mazda RX8? wth .. those things have no torque .. your better off in a slightly modded toyota corolla

Mystikal
08-02-2012, 02:06 PM
CSCS coverage.

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ALPINA MAN
08-07-2012, 09:18 PM
http://www.stanceiseverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jay_1.jpg

Sadly the only pic I got.

Fun to watch though.

No worries, I had the pleasure of riding with Jay for 5 laps on the GT3, and I can honestly say that Jay is a seasoned driver that squeezed the last drop of the power and handling in that short track out of the GT3 for its own advantage and in did the result was impressive and priceless, congratulation Jay, I really enjoyed the day and great video to remind me!