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justhinc
03-07-2012, 04:56 PM
Hey guys,

I'm a total noob here. Looking for some insight for a recent problem that my father had with his automatic 2003 320i.

Situation:

He was driving it and he parked and the car would no longer start up or even turn over. Upon towing it to a shop, he was told that it needed a new motor, the exiting one had seized.

This happened completely out of blue. He has had it since 05 with 30k on it, one owner off lease and doesnt ever give her heat and maintains it religously. It JUST broke 100k.

So (and yes, I am searching the forums and will continue to do so), i'm looking for a wise word from you all who have experience with these cars.

Should we seek another opinion?

Also, in the case that the motor needs to be replaced -i'd love to get some thoughts on what alternatives we have for motor replacement. Where in the GTA we should go, etc.

THANK YOU!! *angel*

vintagez
03-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Seems strange but why not take it to a place like RMP that specialises in BMW repairs or any other supporting vendor and get their opinion. It seems strange for an engine to seize unless there was no oil or the CCV froze (but weather has been mild lately), anyway check for a better second opinion.

Eurostyle
03-07-2012, 06:01 PM
Take the car to a GOOD shop! Very strange, almost impossible to happen just like that! Even with NO oil at all, it will run for several minutes before seizing...

hamant
03-07-2012, 07:35 PM
more detail..

what do you mean, just died? what did the shop say besides "needs new engine"

where in the GTA are you? there are lots of other options.

MANDD
03-07-2012, 08:17 PM
Has everyone has stated, you should really consider taking your car to a shop that is familiar with the BMW brand.

With that said you may have a crankcase valve failure, when the upper diaphragm freezes or fails it pulls oil from the oil pan via the lower vent tube and fills the intake and subsequently the cylinders up with oil.

What you now have is a hydro lock which may seem like the motor is seized has it will not turn over. First thing to do is remove the spark plugs and then place some absorbent cloth over the valve cover.

Crank over the motor, there will be oil everywhere if the cylinders are full of oil. Then you can proceed from this point to determine repair requirements including replacement of the crankcase vent valve.

Mark

roman
03-07-2012, 08:31 PM
if the car detected low oil pressure or low oil, doesnt the engine turn it self off on an e46?

Eurostyle
03-07-2012, 11:58 PM
if the car detected low oil pressure or low oil, doesnt the engine turn it self off on an e46?

No they dont. Few people have lost engines this way...

justhinc
03-08-2012, 01:28 AM
more detail..

what do you mean, just died? what did the shop say besides "needs new engine"

where in the GTA are you? there are lots of other options.

The problem is that I don't live close to my pops, but he doesn't really have any idea but i'll be giving the shop a call tomorrow to get a more detailed diagnosis. He's in the east end of Scarborough. I'm attempting to find a reliable and knowledgeable shop in the area.


Has everyone has stated, you should really consider taking your car to a shop that is familiar with the BMW brand.

With that said you may have a crankcase valve failure, when the upper diaphragm freezes or fails it pulls oil from the oil pan via the lower vent tube and fills the intake and subsequently the cylinders up with oil.

What you now have is a hydro lock which may seem like the motor is seized has it will not turn over. First thing to do is remove the spark plugs and then place some absorbent cloth over the valve cover.

Crank over the motor, there will be oil everywhere if the cylinders are full of oil. Then you can proceed from this point to determine repair requirements including replacement of the crankcase vent valve.

Mark

if the car detected low oil pressure or low oil, doesnt the engine turn it self off on an e46?

From what I was told, he didn't see the oil light go off, not sure if he was really looking for it though.

All in all, thanks for the feedback and quick responses. I'll follow up with some progress tomorrow.

Eurostyle
03-08-2012, 01:46 AM
Several good shops in the east end, check the sponsors (and few non!)...

justhinc
03-08-2012, 02:02 AM
No they dont. Few people have lost engines this way...

i'm struggling to find a directory of shops recommended on this forums, does such list exist?

Eurostyle
03-08-2012, 02:25 AM
i'm struggling to find a directory of shops recommended on this forums, does such list exist?

You can start with the sponsors list, out in the east end we have Stance Factory, cant go wrong with them!*th-up* Several other options exist, but why bother! :D