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noodles101
03-01-2012, 10:59 PM
my passenger side low beam HID bulb goes out by itself while driving and code says 'low beam failure'

when i switch the light back on , the light comes back on but goes back out after maybe 5 mins of driving.

is this a ballast problem or bulb problem?

1bmw1
03-02-2012, 12:14 AM
It's hard to say. Switch either your bulb or ballast from left to right or vice versa and see if the same happens on the driver's side. This way you will easily find out if it's your bulb or ballast. If you switched the bulb and it continues to go off on the driver's side, then we know that it's your bulb. Good luck.

5style
03-02-2012, 12:14 AM
bulb ,or check control module is dying and needs reflow :(

propr'one
03-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Its most likely your ballast, not your bulb.

Eurostyle
03-02-2012, 01:49 AM
Its most likely your ballast, not your bulb.

+1...and not too easy to swap depending on year...

sproule905
03-02-2012, 09:32 AM
crap! my drivers side periodically fails from time to time, but usually after a rain fall.

cisco911
03-02-2012, 10:51 AM
probably the ballast. I see alot of people having issues with there HIDs, even the OEM ones. My 01 330 has 210k on it and has never needed anything. Bulbs and ballasts are all original. Even the auto level still works. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

T.Dot_E30
03-02-2012, 10:55 AM
Most likely the ballast like others have said.

Confirm by swapping the bulbs, if that side still goes out you know your problem.

propr'one
03-02-2012, 11:03 AM
probably the ballast. I see alot of people having issues with there HIDs, even the OEM ones. My 01 330 has 210k on it and has never needed anything. Bulbs and ballasts are all original. Even the auto level still works. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Are you the original owner of the car? Its very unlikely that your bulbs haven't been replaced. According to BMW, the D2S bulbs in your car should last 3-5 years. You're going on 3 times that long.

1bmw1
03-02-2012, 12:07 PM
Wait, is this for an aftermarket kit for an E36 or your oem lights on an E46? You need to specify.

cisco911
03-02-2012, 01:10 PM
Are you the original owner of the car? Its very unlikely that your bulbs haven't been replaced. According to BMW, the D2S bulbs in your car should last 3-5 years. You're going on 3 times that long.

I am the second owner, but have owned it since 2004. Maybe the bulbs were replaced between 2001 and 2004, but I have not touched them since...that is over 7 years now.

BMW_7
03-02-2012, 01:30 PM
ballast. i have 2 lying around if you're interested, they are no name "hid" ballast

noodles101
03-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Wait, is this for an aftermarket kit for an E36 or your oem lights on an E46? You need to specify.

yeah the one i have is prolumen HID kit for my E336 in zkw headlight housing.


but is there any H1 halogen bulbs that are as bright or brighter then my HIDs ?
what colour temperature will it be if i were to get H1 bulb ?
(my HID kit is 5000k )

if so...what brand , price, and where i can order??
seems like its a simpler way to go.

noodles101
03-02-2012, 02:41 PM
adf

T.Dot_E30
03-02-2012, 03:53 PM
but is there any H1 halogen bulbs that are as bright or brighter then my HIDs ?
what colour temperature will it be if i were to get H1 bulb ?
(my HID kit is 5000k )


No halogen bulb will ever be as bright as HIDs.
Most Halogen bulbs are around ~3000k (on the yellow side of white)

SiR
03-02-2012, 06:42 PM
osram night breakers are supposedly good bulbs....but they will never be hid like.

that said hid kits in a reflector not designed for it is boo urns...

sproule905
03-02-2012, 09:01 PM
the previous owner for me put in a higher (brighter) HID bulb. as mentioned before.. it goes off the odd time. Perhaps I will switch the bulbs and go that route.

its an 01. self levelers still work.

propr'one
03-02-2012, 09:53 PM
^^that is not possible. Unless the owner retrofitted a 55w HID kit (highly unlikely), the stock bulbs are as bright as it gets

noodles101
03-02-2012, 09:55 PM
osram night breakers are supposedly good bulbs....but they will never be hid like.

that said hid kits in a reflector not designed for it is boo urns...

thank you SiR, im checking out osram rallye 65w bulbs, apparently its not sold in canada/US and its only meant for racing? its 2100 lumen..and yeah.

quick question..lol

what type bulb do i need for low beam? H1? H7? ..LOL..

sproule905
03-03-2012, 09:21 PM
^^that is not possible. Unless the owner retrofitted a 55w HID kit (highly unlikely), the stock bulbs are as bright as it gets

i'll try and pull one out tmrw. stock HID's are 5000K?

propr'one
03-03-2012, 09:44 PM
4100-4300K

K = Kelvin, (colour)
W= Wattage, (brightness)

5style
03-04-2012, 08:52 PM
thank you SiR, im checking out osram rallye 65w bulbs, apparently its not sold in canada/US and its only meant for racing? its 2100 lumen..and yeah.

quick question..lol

what type bulb do i need for low beam? H1? H7? ..LOL..

65watt? OMG FACEPALM! Youre going to melt the plastics from the heat!!!


55W MAX.

noodles101
03-04-2012, 08:56 PM
Lol on bimmerforum ppl put 65w halogens and they said its okay , but I guess I'll just get another set of hid kit

5style
03-04-2012, 09:03 PM
Lol on bimmerforum ppl put 65w halogens and they said its okay , but I guess I'll just get another set of hid kit

maybe on US spec lights, but on zkw, bosch or depos you ll end up burning the chrome right off.

propr'one
03-04-2012, 10:39 PM
I doubt 65w is gonna melt anything, that's only 10W more than stock.

HID's are so cheap these days there is no excuse for not having them, particularly if you have projectors since they focus the extra light very nicely.

egye30
03-05-2012, 11:12 AM
My brother had a similar issue with his HID kit, try unplugging all the connections and giving them a good clean, that was the case in his kit, after cleaning all the connectors they started to work fine.Also, A buddy of mine sells HID kits if you're interested, I've used them for all my cars and all my families cars, I can hook you up with him if you'd like, He does installations too, but you'd have to come see him here in Hamilton.

5style
03-05-2012, 08:07 PM
I doubt 65w is gonna melt anything, that's only 10W more than stock.

HID's are so cheap these days there is no excuse for not having them, particularly if you have projectors since they focus the extra light very nicely.

Most OEM euro lights running stock 55W bulbs have been rechromed prior to ebay from heavy reflector wear, that should tell you what you need to know

flyinghigh88
03-06-2012, 03:18 AM
i think it's the ballast. you should check it properly.

SiR
03-06-2012, 12:41 PM
I doubt 65w is gonna melt anything, that's only 10W more than stock.

HID's are so cheap these days there is no excuse for not having them, particularly if you have projectors since they focus the extra light very nicely.



fcplm

propr'one
03-06-2012, 01:04 PM
Most OEM euro lights running stock 55W bulbs have been rechromed prior to ebay from heavy reflector wear, that should tell you what you need to know

no, that doesn't tell me anything. I've ran 100W HID's in my projectors with no damage to anything, and, although i dont recommend that, those surely produce a lot more heat than 65 watt halogens.

5style
03-06-2012, 01:40 PM
no, that doesn't tell me anything. I've ran 100W HID's in my projectors with no damage to anything, and, although i dont recommend that, those surely produce a lot more heat than 65 watt halogens.

For how long? run them constantly for a year, and then tell me you haven't burnt the chrome off. Most people in europe use lights constantly at 55w halogen H1 , H3 or H7 ( most common bulbs to our bredren overseas) and now its the law to have drls, so people simply turn on their night time lights all the time. Why would re-chroming of reflectors be such a lucrative business ( and it is) if they didn't burn off? Its illegal to even have HIDs if they were not equipped stock and your car does not have HID approved headlights and Headlight washers.

Also, I ve already burnt a set of e36 fog lights with phillips 55w halogens, Chrome is disintegrating , Hellas...

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propr'one
03-06-2012, 01:42 PM
i ran 80w's for like 6 months in the summer last year. there was no wear of any kind on the reflectors.

I'm not saying higher wattage bulbs wont wear projectors. My argument is that a 10W difference is not really significant, and you'd likely get away with it. Most euro projectors have slots for peanut bulbs in them (which, afaik, use 15W bulbs), so the headlights are clearly rated to deal with some measure of heat over the stock 55w halogens.

5style
03-06-2012, 02:08 PM
i ran 80w's for like 6 months in the summer last year. there was no wear of any kind on the reflectors.

I'm not saying higher wattage bulbs wont wear projectors. My argument is that a 10W difference is not really significant, and you'd likely get away with it. Most euro projectors have slots for peanut bulbs in them (which, afaik, use 15W bulbs), so the headlights are clearly rated to deal with some measure of heat over the stock 55w halogens.

Then how do you explain stock 330i/ci reflectors destroying themselves with stock 35watt hid bulbs?

propr'one
03-06-2012, 02:20 PM
^^you made that up. 35w HID's produce about 40% less heat than 55w halogens.

I can't speak to hellas, i had depo's, which (as you know) are cheap Chinese knockoffs. Maybe china finally beat out germany?

T.Dot_E30
03-06-2012, 02:26 PM
Then how do you explain stock 330i/ci reflectors destroying themselves with stock 35watt hid bulbs?

Bad wiring...

5style
03-06-2012, 02:57 PM
^^you made that up. 35w HID's produce about 40% less heat than 55w halogens.

I can't speak to hellas, i had depo's, which (as you know) are cheap Chinese knockoffs. Maybe china finally beat out germany?

Actually, zhp 330 projectors were on recall, do to self destructing reflectors, you're welcome to look it up. I can tell you from experience the reflectors in oem lights are quite prone to heat damage. Depos, can take it perhaps if you say they did, though I am not entirely convinced since reflector coatings are standardized.

5style
03-06-2012, 03:01 PM
Bad wiring...

It was due to heat dissipation for a design error, and in a Oem light too, quite embarrassing for bmw, the inventors of automotive projector lighting

propr'one
03-06-2012, 03:02 PM
then what the **** does that have to do with HID's? Or higher wattage bulbs? If they were recalled, then they are no longer in the field, so what difference does it make.


I'm done arguing with you. If you think that there is no tolerance or range for headlights, and that the 55w stock bulbs your headlights can handle, and putting a 56w bulb in will explode your car, fine. There's enough mis-information on max/internet already, i'm just setting the record straight.

Would i recommend running over wattage bulbs? no.
Is it likely that correctly installed 65w halogen bulbs will cause catastrophic failure of headlights? absolutely not.

5style
03-06-2012, 03:07 PM
Would i recommend running over wattage bulbs? no.


Sorry, what are you arguing then? How many sets of bosch or zkw have you owned?

T.Dot_E30
03-06-2012, 03:10 PM
Actually, zhp 330 projectors were on recall, do to self destructing reflectors, you're welcome to look it up. I can tell you from experience the reflectors in oem lights are quite prone to heat damage. Depos, can take it perhaps if you say they did, though I am not entirely convinced since reflector coatings are standardized.

My bad you said 'reflectors' I took that to mean OEM 35w HIDs in stock Non-HID reflector headlights.

I never heard of any e46s catching fire due to HIDs, but im no e36 expert.....

5style
03-06-2012, 03:17 PM
My bad you said 'reflectors' I took that to mean OEM 35w HIDs in stock Non-HID reflector headlights.

I never heard of any e46s catching fire due to HIDs, but im no e46 expert.....

Nope, I meant oem hid bulb in oem light that came that way out of the factory. It was a huge pita, its been documented all over bimmerforums, e46fanatics, etc.

Simply put, heat + reflector + poor heat dissipation = worn out reflector.

That being said, lights can be re-chromed, but at high cost on our side of the atlantic/pacific, $160 a pop ( I called around and asked) vs a mere $40 in europe.

Then again, brand new OEM bosch or zkw from the dealer run in at $600-800 A LIGHT in europe( price I got this summer), so $40 a pop to rechrome makes sense.

The set of Bosch I brought over was not re-chromed, however, I did look at a bunch that were, talltale signs are dust particles stuck in the new chrome, perhaps a rushed service?