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T.Dot_E30
02-09-2012, 11:58 AM
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Discuss... yay or nay?

Discostar
02-10-2012, 11:51 AM
Looks like an awesome drivers car! Glad to hear they delivered on the performance aspect. But whats with
Toyotas obsession with making everything look awkwardly Picasso like.

Someone in their design department must be cross eyed... Who sat there and made the choice to ok that
as the final production model, over this...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezflow_site/storage_RT_NEW/storage/images/tests/draft-content/ny-draft/2012-scion-fr-s-five-axis-concept/gallery/photo_8/2413142-1-eng-US/scion-fr-s-008_gallery_image_large.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezflow_site/storage_RT_NEW/storage/images/tests/draft-content/ny-draft/2012-scion-fr-s-five-axis-concept/gallery/photo_6/2413112-1-eng-US/scion-fr-s-006_gallery_image_large.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezflow_site/storage_RT_NEW/storage/images/tests/draft-content/ny-draft/2012-scion-fr-s-five-axis-concept/gallery/photo_7/2413127-1-eng-US/scion-fr-s-007_gallery_image_large.jpg


Its like they changed it juuuuust enough to make it straddle that line between liveable and something only a mother could love.

BigD
02-10-2012, 11:59 AM
To be fair, it's probably the closest a production car has come to its prototype in a very long time. They can't do lowrider height on a production car for legal reasons. So throw on some bigger rims, drop it, and you're pretty much there. There are going to be TRD bits to make the rear look like that too, or even cooler (well minus the awesome tail lights)

Discostar
02-10-2012, 12:04 PM
It wasnt so much the ride hight I was concerned about. It was the changes they made to the front and rear lights, and a few subtle body lines they moved around on the front end. I'm interested to see what Subaru does with their version.

T.Dot_E30
02-10-2012, 12:22 PM
Concepts almost always have over the top headlights/tails the never make it to production...

But I agree, the end product doesn't look as good as it could have. But in the end, it's a drivers car for appearently around $25k US. We'll see how much more it cost here in Canada.

BigD
02-10-2012, 01:22 PM
The price worries me. If a well equipped one is going to even breathe in the direction of 35k, I would probably buy a Mustang GT instead. It's a really cool car but 35k for a 200hp compact is asinine. And judging by WRX prices (and this also being a Japanese car, leading to our wonderful Canadian tariffs), this could well happen if it's really 25k in the US (WRX = 25.5 US -> 32.5 CAD)

T.Dot_E30
02-10-2012, 01:57 PM
I agree if it creeps far into the 30s it becomes less and less appealing.... a 128i afterall starts at $38.8k

It needs to undercut a genesis coupe to sell, but who knows toyota might think that people pay more for their brand thinking it's more reliable

BigD
02-10-2012, 02:34 PM
My other worry about price is that when a new WRX comes out, people snatch them up for thousands over MSRP. So the hype alone that Toyota has done extremely well to build, could make this car cost retarded money, at least for the first year or two.

5style
02-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Its all about money, if it looked exactly like the concept, it would retail for 60K +, since difficulty and time of production would be increased, not to mention investment necessary to upgrade the current turd producing production line ( cough corrolla cough or whatever else)

blk3
02-10-2012, 11:13 PM
i think its a sharp looking car that looks fun to drive. i give it a thumbs up. I cant wait to see one in person