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talltorontoguy
01-19-2012, 07:52 PM
Not much action in the e30 forum these days. I know you guys are all working dilligently on your rides. Share some pictures!

In my case I'm getting ready for next season... I had a new window sewn in, put the car in storage, said "I'll just remove the front lip to fix some curb damage" and then... well I just couldn't help myself.

What am I getting myself into??? fcplm

Wish me luck!


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20VII/2012-01-18_22-28-52_933.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20VII/2012-01-18_22-29-37_92.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20VII/2012-01-10_21-19-36_612.jpg

Beer and Penetrating Oil... lethal combination....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20VII/2012-01-18_22-30-20_560.jpg

BigD
01-19-2012, 08:07 PM
Engine's almost ready for chargepipe/exhaust fab:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5kfeXq8TBNo/Tt7R6LBh8EI/AAAAAAAACiI/kNuzfDQ7syw/s640/IMAGE_1000000259.JPG

Just finishing up the oil and fuel plumbing, then just button up the wiring:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L1p0vi5O4n0/Tv9FCV4icyI/AAAAAAAACmA/xwbpBGklaGs/s640/IMAGE_1000000294.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H76Ww7A9fIw/Tv9E334LYRI/AAAAAAAACl4/Y2--r3Ys9-s/s640/IMAGE_1000000292.JPG

Going to start some body surgery shortly so it's again not an open-wheel car

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZQaIu1pQXiQ/TxH3JQc3iuI/AAAAAAAACqc/t-lyvNYa9S0/s640/IMAGE_1000000317.JPG

Then once it runs and drives, get started on the traction control:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rLclEqAGQnk/Tr2op8zCMVI/AAAAAAAACYU/dEEDI8sCOKc/s512/IMAGE_1000000191.JPG

talltorontoguy
01-19-2012, 08:46 PM
Nice looking build. I have a set of m3 quarters and fenders that would solve your rear tire fitment issue. :)

BigD
01-19-2012, 08:51 PM
Not even close :( Thanks for the offer though

L8 Apexr
01-19-2012, 09:09 PM
I'm just about finished building my R1 engine powered mid engined awd geo metro ice race project and then the E30 gets some attention. I need to build a new exhaust,reinstall a/c,install new seats,maybe update the tunes,chip from TRM,sort out my check engine light.....thats about it for now.

talltorontoguy
01-19-2012, 09:48 PM
Not even close :( Thanks for the offer though

These are the DTM Fibreworks ones, 2" wider on each quarter than the stock m3. Maybe?

talltorontoguy
01-19-2012, 09:49 PM
I'm just about finished building my R1 engine powered mid engined awd geo metro ice race project and then the E30 gets some attention. I need to build a new exhaust,reinstall a/c,install new seats,maybe update the tunes,chip from TRM,sort out my check engine light.....thats about it for now.

Pics of said Geo Metro Ice Racer?

L8 Apexr
01-19-2012, 09:58 PM
Pics of said Geo Metro Ice Racer?

Sure,I'll get some better ones this weekend.

karmatose
01-19-2012, 10:27 PM
Car is in storage so I'm working on collecting the rest of my parts to "finish" (read: get to the starting point, literally) the project.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2852/20120119211904.jpg

The mountain of parts grows weekly.

e30_kid89
01-19-2012, 11:42 PM
I'd go take pictures, then i'd be depressed seeing my Ti in pieces like lego:D...then comes the "while i'm in there's...." :(

I'll be ready for spring :P

talltorontoguy
01-20-2012, 12:07 AM
Dude - you're still around? Good to hear from you!

I'd go take pictures, then i'd be depressed seeing my Ti in pieces like lego:D...then comes the "while i'm in there's...." :(

I'll be ready for spring :P

dble Trouble
01-20-2012, 12:11 AM
Engine swap............Blown M20 in exchange for good M20. Anyone have a good M20 for sale???? Need asap.

e30_kid89
01-20-2012, 12:25 AM
Dude - you're still around? Good to hear from you!

Yep! still alive(kinda lol) How's project X?

Engine swap............Blown M20 in exchange for good M20. Anyone have a good M20 for sale???? Need asap.

24v. do it!

dble Trouble
01-20-2012, 12:30 AM
If I was keeping the car I would go BIG 24 valve, but I've decided I want to go fast, and there's just no cheap way of making an e30 fast around a road course. So to the E36 I will go, but will put an new engine in my car then post for sale, soon afterwards.....:(. I would like to keep it, but like many I can't justify having 4 cars, it will be hard enough having 3 like i do now.....Who knows, maybe the vw will go too?

MisTAmaN
01-20-2012, 12:37 AM
Take care of some major rust issues and finally make it out to a meet and feel good inside. get a good stance on some 15'-16' rare rims, nice kit...you know the typical thing

Oh!, once the soft top is replaced i will try putting a sunroof built into a hard top. have not seen that yet. ill post pics hopefully sometime tom on rusty car.

mgunter
01-20-2012, 11:44 AM
If I was keeping the car I would go BIG 24 valve, but I've decided I want to go fast, and there's just no cheap way of making an e30 fast around a road course. So to the E36 I will go, but will put an new engine in my car then post for sale, soon afterwards.....:(. I would like to keep it, but like many I can't justify having 4 cars, it will be hard enough having 3 like i do now.....Who knows, maybe the vw will go too?

You're still looking for an engine? I figured you would have found one by now.
I know someone in town with a m20. I can find out what he's doing with it (he's been back and forth as to whether he's keeping it or selling it) but it's a bit far from where you are!
If you want to get rid of it i'll take it with the blown engine...not worth much with a blown engine...$100? *shiner*

matty.dc
01-20-2012, 01:34 PM
last year did the m50 swap and changed rims to esm 003 and this year I'm doing the RX-7 calipers w/ corrrado 11" rotors

everlast
01-20-2012, 02:24 PM
BigD, that looks like a monster build, wicked!

I'm not doing much, installing aluminum rad, new sways, treehouse lollipops and building a electronic boost controller to work in closed loop with megasquirt. But all that will wait until March when the garage is usable. Right now I have the e30, two motorbikes, two garbage pails, a BBQ, workbench, various parts (transmission, etc) toolboxes, welder with gas and still have enough room to park the Mini Cooper. In a city-sized two car garage.

BigD
01-20-2012, 02:36 PM
BigD, that looks like a monster build, wicked

Thanks man, should be interesting if it ever comes together. Been so long since I first pulled the motor to get started, and so many changes snowballed, that it's like a myth now. I already managed to get bored with it's initial theoretical power while racing it in my mind, and upgraded the turbo before ever trying the first one.

Steve30
01-20-2012, 02:57 PM
I spent the past couple months collecting all the pieces for my S54 swap. Just need 2 more things and its ready to go! Unfortunately it won't be swapped in until April :( I'm hoping to have it ready in time for the opening cruise. BigD I can't wait to see that E30 in action. I'm planning on putting my S52 into the E30 and maybe boosting it.

BigD
01-20-2012, 02:59 PM
Thanks man, me too. Going on a year and a half since it last ran :(

dble Trouble
01-20-2012, 10:39 PM
I spent the past couple months collecting all the pieces for my S54 swap. Just need 2 more things and its ready to go! Unfortunately it won't be swapped in until April :( I'm hoping to have it ready in time for the opening cruise. BigD I can't wait to see that E30 in action. I'm planning on putting my S52 into the E30 and maybe boosting it.



ROFLMFAO at your sig pic. That has got to be the best sig pic ever!!! OMG, my wife is also in tears.......... I'm so proud because she got it right away, and she knows the difference between each 3 series!!!

dble Trouble
01-20-2012, 10:43 PM
You're still looking for an engine? I figured you would have found one by now.
I know someone in town with a m20. I can find out what he's doing with it (he's been back and forth as to whether he's keeping it or selling it) but it's a bit far from where you are!
If you want to get rid of it i'll take it with the blown engine...not worth much with a blown engine...$100? *shiner*

The trick has been finding a good one. Many around, but with missing critical parts, or unknown entity, or really really high mileage like 400+km. In regards to my car anyone who wants it with a blown engine the bidding starts at $3000 and up.......otherwise I'm putting a good engine in it the second I find one and it will be sold cert and e-tested with everything working and little rust around the sunroof, that's it! And it will be on the mkt for a lot more than 3g's. If I don't get what I want for it, then I keep. Win win for me.

tuee
01-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Freshening up the bay, got a lot left to do
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff121/tuee06/e30/DSC04124.jpg

MaxBell
01-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Freshening up the bay, got a lot left to do
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff121/tuee06/e30/DSC04124.jpg

I've got a 318iS that's heading to the scrap yard, if you want anything!

ughson
01-21-2012, 02:20 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6723669167_3eabedae86_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68267053@N08/6723669167/)
DSC_0154 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68267053@N08/6723669167/) by Mike Broekema (http://www.flickr.com/people/68267053@N08/), on Flickr

I picked up an e36 for a M50 swap and 5 lug conversion parts and am busy refinishing a set of bbs RC090

Steve30
01-21-2012, 02:36 PM
haha yeah. Still wondering on what to use for the F30. Maybe a pic of his grave.

ROFLMFAO at your sig pic. That has got to be the best sig pic ever!!! OMG, my wife is also in tears.......... I'm so proud because she got it right away, and she knows the difference between each 3 series!!!

BigD
01-21-2012, 08:07 PM
haha yeah. Still wondering on what to use for the F30. Maybe a pic of his grave.

The giant turd he left as his final testament.

Ceeker
01-21-2012, 09:09 PM
haha yeah. Still wondering on what to use for the F30. Maybe a pic of his grave.

I think the e36 and e46 pics should be swapped...lol. the e46 is actually rather good car in comparison. e46 is starting look a bit haggered..

L8 Apexr
01-22-2012, 08:46 PM
Geo metro with an '02 R1 engine running on megasquirt mounted in the middle,swift front end mounted in the rear complete with strut conversion instead of original shock/spring set-up.2 diffs customized with sealed bearings and sprockets machined to bolt in place of the ring gear.Jackshaft from the counter sprocket location with a dual sprocket,6 tensioners to hopefully control the chains.
Huge project I started at the end of October,weather permitting going to race it next weekend.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/geopics004.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/003.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/geopics002.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/005.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/001-1.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/012.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/002-2.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/008.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/006.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/kevlarcorolla/009.jpg

Steve30
01-22-2012, 09:02 PM
Holy crap lol!!!

Blackedout95
01-22-2012, 09:11 PM
wow, where you racing that?

L8 Apexr
01-22-2012, 09:15 PM
I run in the CASC ontario ice race series which is held in Minden for the next 6 weekends weather permiting.I compete in the street studded tire class.

dble Trouble
01-22-2012, 11:27 PM
I think the e36 and e46 pics should be swapped...lol. the e46 is actually rather good car in comparison. e46 is starting look a bit haggered..

Completely disagree, the e36 is better in every way performance wise. The only thing the e46 has going for it is the M3 we got was actually the same as the euro car, but much softer and heavier than the e36 M3 so not as good on a road course etc. Luxury = Meh, if that matters go buy a Merc.

E30M42cab
01-23-2012, 12:37 AM
Here's what I see when I see an e36: 4 door, green, tan interior, unpainted skirts and unpainted bumpers, bottlecaps, automatic transmission, foggy headlight lenses, rusty quarter panels, and always monster truckin. The e36, other than an M3 or anything with an M3 body kit is just hidious. But, if you're looking for a track car, I guess it doesn't matter what it looks like. Plus, you won't give a shit if you put it into a wall.

richie_s999
01-23-2012, 10:21 AM
Please no more e30 vs e36 bantering, it like watching nascar going round and round waiting for the crash!

Haven't started the new build yet, still patiently waiting for a good shell to start with.

BigD
01-23-2012, 10:57 AM
it like watching nascar going round and round waiting for the crash!

In other words, highly rewarding?

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 12:54 PM
Please no more e30 vs e36 bantering, it like watching nascar going round and round waiting for the crash!

Haven't started the new build yet, still patiently waiting for a good shell to start with.

It's not e30 vs. e36, it's e36 vs. e46!

And like BigD said "so it's highly rewarding!" LOL.

T.Dot_E30
01-23-2012, 02:03 PM
I think BigD was referring to the Big IndyCar crash this year....

It was a Nascar track but it was watching Indy cars go round and round waiting for a crash.....


RIP Dan Wheldon

BigD
01-23-2012, 02:21 PM
No, as far as I can tell, it doesn't try one's patience watching NASCAR waiting for a crash

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 07:03 PM
BMW Sucks...

Anyways, I'm torn between a 2.1 stroker or a 2.5 hybrid... Still need to pull my engine out.

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 07:46 PM
BMW Sucks...

Anyways, I'm torn between a 2.1 stroker or a 2.5 hybrid... Still need to pull my engine out.

LOL, coming from someone who bailed to buy a Scoobie Doo!

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 07:59 PM
Yeah..

E30 < Subaru WRX

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 08:24 PM
Didn't you blow the engine??? What are you driving right now?

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 08:52 PM
Yeah I did. And I have a Ford Escort till I get the engine together.

e30_kid89
01-23-2012, 08:58 PM
BMW Sucks...

Anyways, I'm torn between a 2.1 stroker or a 2.5 hybrid... Still need to pull my engine out.

2.5L and a gt35r....you'll have the displacement no excuses for that baby gt3076r :P

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 09:32 PM
haha. Thats big money. Then I need to get my 2.0 heads cnc machined. I have a EJ257 short block (sti) which means I have the crank and rods for a 2.1 stroker in my blown EJ205. Which means I just technically need pistons and a rebuild for my 205 for a 2.1.

I'm torn between a doing a 2.0 with pistons and a medium sized turbo, or do a 2.1 with rod's and pistons, with a big turbo (but obviously more $$)

If I had an e30, i'd be fixing oil leaks and fixing rot.

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 09:37 PM
^^Not if you bought the right e30!^^

you'd just be having fun spanking WRX's around road courses and autocrosses! And saving a bunch of money in the process........

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 09:40 PM
And then I'd still have a 20+ year old BMW... With 20+ year old technology.

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 09:41 PM
That works better than most today........

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 09:42 PM
In your opinion because it's what you drive... But if you got in my car, and then in yours, mine would go around a track faster..

dble Trouble
01-23-2012, 09:56 PM
Nope, you should know I've driven dozens and dozens of different makes and models on the street and track. There's no doubt a stock wrx can out drag a stock e30 just. But once modified the differences are more apparent........that is until you blow it up because all one's done is increase the boost to a level the engine was not built to maintain. Seen it done tonnes of times, and will see it done tonnes more I'm sure. Back in the Diamond star days, then the scooby doo hay days and now with Mitsu's and toyotas. Around a training track an e30 with slight mods like mine will be quicker than a WRX with equal mods. On the GP track they will be tit for tat. An STI will be a little quicker. One of the Trillium members bought an STI when they first came out then the next season I saw him in an old e36 and said whats up? He said he's faster in that old e36 M3 stock than he was in the STI, BUT not in the straights, plus the feel and so on.

Don't get me wrong now, I do like Subaru's........a lot. But I've never bought one because everytime I went to buy one, 4 times, I walked away and bought a bimmer becuase it was just missing something..........years later I came to the conclusion it was the awd. If they built exactly the same car but rwd only, I'd probably be driving one now! Plus their seats are way better than the e30's thats for sure!

SamE30e
01-23-2012, 10:12 PM
Funny thing is, the streets aren't a race track and we all daily drive our cars.

An E30 may perform on a track, but it still drives like a 20 year old car. Clunky, leaks, rotted, worn suspension. It's lacking all those creature comforts and up to date technologies. It doesn't matter how much you restore it and how much you put into it, or even how mint you think it is, metal fatigue sets in

I've driven an E30 with 60k on it at work, it's not like a new car.

And I'm sure buddy didn't sell his STI to get an E36 because the E36 was faster, an STI is an amazing car all around.

And Subaru's blow up because of bad tunes, just like any other forced induction car. An E30 doesn't blow up, because it's a N/A car, that's not high revving or very efficient.

MaxBell
01-25-2012, 01:04 AM
Here's what I see when I see an e36: 4 door, green, tan interior, unpainted skirts and unpainted bumpers, bottlecaps, automatic transmission, foggy headlight lenses, rusty quarter panels, and always monster truckin. The e36, other than an M3 or anything with an M3 body kit is just hidious. But, if you're looking for a track car, I guess it doesn't matter what it looks like. Plus, you won't give a shit if you put it into a wall.

You are too funny dude. **** that is the same winter beating pile of disgust I see whenever an E36 rolls/drags itself by.

I hate those cars.

E30M42cab
01-25-2012, 01:57 AM
You are too funny dude. **** that is the same winter beating pile of disgust I see whenever an E36 rolls/drags itself by.

I hate those cars.

"Drags itself", hahaha. This is even worse than I described. Hub caps, no fogs. Not only does it have no fogs, but it's missing a blank!fcplm It probably has a burnt out tail light, and a sagging headliner. And wood trim.

Every e36 looks like this through my eyes.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h179/e30m42cab/NFZ492_1.jpg

mgunter
01-25-2012, 07:47 AM
I was looking for a second car for my girlfriend and a euro shop in town had an early e36 sedan, safetied, e-tested, from bc for a good price. He said it was silver but I forgot about the unpainted bumpers. I got there and I just couldn't do that to her....and she didn't like driving it anyways!
Nothing against you John but i'm with Maxbell and Scott on this one! Oh but can I still go for a ride when you get one? :P

MaxBell
01-25-2012, 11:56 AM
These rims though.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3774/2341/21933670001_large.jpg

Yeh Scott, that or they are a SUPER patina'd red. And are a 318iS...

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1993-Red-BMW-3-Series-318i-Sedan-E36-Amazing-on-gas-W0QQAdIdZ348977443

T.Dot_E30
01-25-2012, 12:21 PM
Every e36 looks like this through my eyes.

I don't see how those green blobs look the same as by silver blob in winter mode. :D

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=107981&stc=1&d=1324402182

E30M42cab
01-25-2012, 01:10 PM
Trevor, see my disclaimer on post #35*wave*
The e36, other than an M3 or anything with an M3 body kit is just hidious.

Your car in winter mode looks better than most e36's in summer mode!

dble Trouble
01-25-2012, 09:47 PM
I don't see how those green blobs look the same as by silver blob in winter mode. :D

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=107981&stc=1&d=1324402182

thank-you, I was going to say, but haven't had a chance to yet. In yo face mo-fo! LOL.

BMe30
01-26-2012, 08:57 AM
So far this winter i have secured an aem stand alone, looking into another bigger set of itb's. Researching other builds as a guide. Looking for rear camber adjustment. Bigger rear sway with adjustable links. Update front sway bushings and replace links with adjustable ones. New summer tires... And maybe refinish my rims hyper silver or hyper black. Oh and might look into fender rolling

Bullet Ride
01-26-2012, 09:58 AM
Looking for rear camber adjustment.

You are going to want a combination of camber and toe adjustment. And the best way to go is to do some cutting and welding. Those eccentric RTABs are junk.

E30M42cab
01-26-2012, 02:42 PM
So far this winter i have secured an aem stand alone, looking into another bigger set of itb's. Researching other builds as a guide. Looking for rear camber adjustment. Bigger rear sway with adjustable links. Update front sway bushings and replace links with adjustable ones. New summer tires... And maybe refinish my rims hyper silver or hyper black. Oh and might look into fender rolling

Rear camber adjustment to get a little more positive? (I hope)

About those rims. $20 says your car feels faster just by running something lighter. How much do those things weigh? Or have you got new rims and you haven't told anyone?

BMe30
01-26-2012, 05:32 PM
^^^^^ well so far for the summer i still have those 7er reps. But im thinking about refinishing them a darker shade. The only other rims i have are those 15" 5 spoke with winters.. I wonder where those came from??? Lol

Dont need to bet... I know the car would be faster... Hell its faster with my winters on... Except in the corners lol

Yeah need some more positive in the rear

North
01-27-2012, 09:37 PM
Install full set of 90a poly bushings/mounts in the rear,
Modify my taller motor mounts to get some hood clearance
Install IE RSMs
Refinish Euroweave/IX weave bastard set and get summer tires
Install HIDs in Fogs/Polish lenses.
Finish grinding/POR15/bedliner floors before the carpet goes back in this spring
Diff fluid.
Fab skidplate
pick up some gently used billy sports if I can find a deal while I have spare cash

BMW Rated
01-27-2012, 11:47 PM
Hopefully do an S50 to S50 engine swap so I can at least drive the car. The anticipation is killing me even though I know this is only the beginning fcplm

egye30
01-29-2012, 04:32 AM
well its a busy winter for my e30, i've got a donor e36 that im using the M52B28 from and keeping it OBDII + an m50 manifold + longtube stainless steel headers + cold air intake + s5x cams hopefully (working on that lol) and def gonna need an ecu tune to tune out some of the stuff i dont need and tune in some of the stuff that i do lol.. for the tranny ill be using the ZF tranny from the 328 + stage II clutch, 14.4 lb flywheel and sachs HD pp. + a short shift kit. The suspension and brakes are def due for an overhaul as well ill be using e30 suspension parts either gonna use the eibach pro's i have with some billy's or i might give the german JOM coilover setup a try for a season, its inexpensive and hasnt got any real negative feedback from the r3v crowd so far and i figure they will be alot safer than the 21 year old stock stuff i got in it right now lol, i've also got front adjustable camber plates that are going in and ill be using the e36 steering rack and also change all the worn out bushings of course and shop for a strut brace. for the brakes i'm just going to get some premium OEM rotors and use some dustless street/track brake pads with an iX brake booster for the swap. Comes spring time i'll be adding the finishing touches on the exterior and try to get some gadgets in there, we'll see how it goes *rockout*

E30M42cab
01-29-2012, 02:29 PM
My list of projects:

Coupe:
Paint and install rear vented windows.
Install e30 M3 Evo II auxiliary fuel tank in the trunk and filler neck underneath.
Front calipers/discs/pads/lines.
Front subframe reinforcement and reinstall sway bar that ripped out at DDT.
Swap out the steering rack while I have the subframe out for one that hold PS fluid.
Install Toyo RA1's on the BBS's.

Vert:
Remove hardtop.
Mount Ronal LS's.
Enjoy.

nonlocal
01-29-2012, 06:35 PM
Will that aux tank not fit in the vert? You keep doing mods to your go-fast car that add weight and I don't understand why... :P

E30M42cab
01-30-2012, 12:37 AM
Will that aux tank not fit in the vert? You keep doing mods to your go-fast car that add weight and I don't understand why... :P

I doubt it. If it does fit, it will be tight. I haven't really added any significant weight since I bought the car... The tank will be the only real thing, but how much does 15L of fuel really weigh? The tank is maybe 7 or 8 lbs. BTW, can I steal your 4.27LSD?:)

Bullet Ride
01-30-2012, 10:26 AM
You keep doing mods to your go-slow car that add weight and I don't understand why... :P

I doubt it. If it does fit, it will be tight. I haven't really added any significant weight since I bought the car... The tank will be the only real thing, but how much does 15L of fuel really weigh? The tank is maybe 7 or 8 lbs. BTW, can I steal your 4.27LSD?:)

15L of fuel weighs about 24lbs. So you're adding about 32lb to your go-slow car.

MaxBell
01-30-2012, 11:04 AM
15L of fuel weighs about 24lbs. So you're adding about 32lb to your go-slow car.

I always figure 100 lbs. makes the different of 1/10th of a second in a quarter mile. No idea for track what the difference would be.

everlast
01-30-2012, 11:07 AM
See, the beauty of a tank is that it doesn't HAVE to be full of gas.

*face palm*

msinger
01-30-2012, 11:09 AM
incremental differences add up!

everlast
01-30-2012, 11:36 AM
Especially going the other way... suddenly your e30 weighs that of a e36. :p My car is certainly no lightweight.

Bullet Ride
01-30-2012, 12:22 PM
See, the beauty of a tank is that it doesn't HAVE to be full of gas.

*face palm*

I realize that. I was just considering the worst case scenario. And since Scott's car is going to have such epic range now, unless he times it right, he'll probably end up at auto-x with his aux tank full anyway :rolleyes:

everlast
01-30-2012, 12:27 PM
LOL ok

E30M42cab
01-30-2012, 02:47 PM
I typically show up at auto-x with 1/8th of a tank, and there's no fuel starvation issues, except for once it sputtered out on me but I made it to the gas station down the road. I have f-ed up once and showed up with almost a full tank, which did actually suck... I think I finished 10th. My trips to the cottage and back plus a few trips to work and back will be done easily with one fill-up. And yeah, the cell will be empty 90% of the time anyways... it's just going to suck when it will cost me $90+ to fill up. Plus, I've lightened the car with a glass moonroof instead of the metal one (if we're going to nitpic on weight. My car is still lighter than a 325.

everlast
01-30-2012, 02:56 PM
I don't see why filling up a 90L tank sucks any more than 45L twice. ? In fact, you can fill up 90L when gas is cheap! :)

I've had fuel starvation around long right turns a few times with low gas levels. If I were ever to do any fuel tank mod, it would be a surge tank.

Bullet Ride
01-30-2012, 03:39 PM
Plus, I've lightened the car with a glass moonroof instead of the metal one

Curious... how much lighter is the glass moonroof?

everlast
01-30-2012, 03:49 PM
Curious... how much lighter is the glass moonroof?

I read on r3v is was heavier, so I passed up buying one. I'll be pissed if I learn its actually lighter. :(

E30M42cab
01-30-2012, 07:58 PM
Tank:
It'll only be 70L total (55L main tank, 15L aux tank + like 3L overflow tank I guess)... but at $1.3X per litre for 91 octane, it's going to suck, but its relative I guess. I'll get to fill up like 12 times fewer through the year. Plus it's cool... I'm just doing it to be cool... lets face it.:rolleyes: Your car won't have that part on it:P.

Moonroof:
I should have weighed them when I had them both out. The metal one is all... well metal... and it's reinforced with metal. It's heavy. The glass one is just a thin piece of tempered glass... and I mean thin. The metal bracket is glued on... sure it's lighter. You can feel the difference just holding them. Maybe Ernie can pipe in on this?

R3V. Pffft. I'd believe what 16 year-olds say too. Oh, and the retards that talk about crank sunroof mechanisms being lighter than power motor sunroofs, you guys are on crack. We're talking ounces here. If you think you're making your car top heavy by retrofitting a power motor, you're drinking too many drugs, son. Run an "i" lip instead of an "is" lip becuase it's lighter. *end mini rant*

I'll try to weigh them both in the spring. I've gotta adjust my glass one a bit... it's only 6 screws so I'll do the world a favour and weigh them.

SamE30e
01-30-2012, 10:15 PM
Swap... Engine swap... Swap... Do it... Do it...

Chefskinny
02-03-2012, 01:27 PM
Page late, but 15L of fuel weighs about 33lbs. Not that it will make much of a difference.

BigD
02-03-2012, 01:51 PM
R3V. Pffft. I'd believe what 16 year-olds say too. Oh, and the retards that talk about crank sunroof mechanisms being lighter than power motor sunroofs, you guys are on crack. We're talking ounces here. If you think you're making your car top heavy by retrofitting a power motor, you're drinking too many drugs, son. Run an "i" lip instead of an "is" lip becuase it's lighter. *end mini rant*

Even if it's not ounces, who gives a ****. Not like anyone harping on about weight is a good enough driver to use the difference. And even if they were, use it for WHAT? To win next year's 24 Hrs of Lemans? F1 title? If stripping weight makes their scrotum tingle then right on, that's what hobbies are all about - enjoy your car the best way you know how. But it grinds my gears when I hear this stuff talked about like it's for those crucial hundredths of a second to get the vital edge in taking the big prize home.

nonlocal
02-03-2012, 02:02 PM
Part of the basis of my original question was the assumption that the glass moonroof was heavier-- glass parts are almost universally heavier than sheetmetal but if that is not the case here.. well, cool.

You've added weight in all sorts of little ways you can rant about the insignificance of if you want, but as mentioned, incremental nothings add up to something. Ask Colin Chapman, who was picky about the depth of the coats of paint on his cars. It's not just fuh-raze, its a DD a lot of the time too, comfort matters, cool parts are cool, I get all that. But lighter is better, always, especially if you're trying to go fast, and especially under sewing-machine power. I know you know this-- you just lose focus every time you see a part you don't have yet...

That's why you have other e30s! Haha

edit: In response to BigD above-- no. there's no big prize or whatever. 100lb makes a difference on a 318is though... especially from Scott who is so hyper-picky about the weights of his wheels... heh. Whatever.

qwerte
02-09-2012, 08:36 PM
A sneak peak at what is currently in my basement waiting for spring to come:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/three3seven/IMG_20120209_184258.jpg

craz azn
02-09-2012, 08:53 PM
A sneak peak at what is currently in my basement waiting for spring to come:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/three3seven/IMG_20120209_184258.jpg

Man thats sick! You should buy 13blackknight's exhaust on S14 to compliment that sweet header :)

qwerte
02-09-2012, 08:57 PM
I've already got the rest of the exhaust on the car, honestly the header is unlikely to be installed this summer. I don't intend to pull the engine just to put the header on. When the time comes to rebuild the head the header will go on at the same time.*th-up*

In the mean time, it will be sent out to be ceramic coated.

The Airbox and flywheel will be top priority in the spring, should really make the engine responsive.

E30M42cab
02-09-2012, 10:07 PM
Even if it's not ounces, who gives a ****.

Exactly!

Part of the basis of my original question was the assumption that the glass moonroof was heavier-- glass parts are almost universally heavier than sheetmetal but if that is not the case here.. well, cool.

You've added weight in all sorts of little ways you can rant about the insignificance of if you want, but as mentioned, incremental nothings add up to something.

edit: In response to BigD above-- no. there's no big prize or whatever. 100lb makes a difference on a 318is though... especially from Scott who is so hyper-picky about the weights of his wheels... heh. Whatever.

I'm picky about the weight of my wheels because I can actually feel the difference in them, hence why the heavy Ronals are on the slow ass vert, and the BBS's are on the Coupe. I guarentee you that if I pulled the ACSchnitzers off your car and threw on the BBS's, you'd never come back to get your ACS's. I'm installing the Evo tank because I want to, and you know my style. The weight difference that it adds I'm sure I will feel when it's full. I don't intend on showing up at the track with it full, and when I'm at the track the spare tire will come out and so will all the extra crap in the car thats there on a daily basis, like my tools, jumper cables, and misc crap that I'm too lazy to remove. Once all that crap is out, the car will feel lighter to me no matter what, so if I wanna have a cool part in my car that adds weight, I'm gunna do it, and likely won't notice unless it's full. Incremental weight like a map light mirror, power sunroof motor, rear headrests, "is" skirts, Eurostyle rear valence, and the Pfeba spoiler will be offset when I take a shit, empty the change out of my pockets, and kick some rust off the bottom of the car.*th-up*

Also, I can't do shit to the vert... they don't offer the kinds of cool variations that I have the opportunity to play with like coupe's/sedans. What I've done to the vert is almost all I can possibly do to a vert. It's actually one of the reasons I wanted another e30. Not just to replace the f-ing piece of shit that the MKII VW was, but to buy all sorts of useless/rare/optional/fuh-raze/cool parts that I could find and have a cool e30, and in my opinion, my e30 is the coolest shit around, haha! Now, I'm finally running out of shit to do to it, aside from engine swap. The fact that I can put it on a track is such a bonus, because I never thought I would truly like running on a track (duh!) Remember how long it took me to get my lisence?

When I want to build a racecar, I will build a racecar.

nonlocal
02-09-2012, 10:15 PM
When I want to build a racecar, I will build a racecar.

Prove it! Use that e28 in my parents driveway... :)

I was just stirring the pot.
And personally, I've actually liked the coupe better than the vert since practically the get-go.

Probably because its lighter... *drink*

E30M42cab
02-10-2012, 12:22 AM
Only if you can get it over to my parents driveway! haha. I'm sure they wouldn't notice.

nonlocal
02-10-2012, 01:37 AM
Only if you can get it over to my parents driveway! haha. I'm sure they wouldn't notice.

Lets build a project shed up in tobermory. It can be made out of wood and have a dirt floor. Get one of those nifty frame lifting floor jacks like was on sale here a while back, and listen to tunes by running a generator. Endless cold beers in the snowbank outside the window.

We can totally build the perfect e30 by 2030.

BMe30
02-10-2012, 08:50 AM
A sneak peak at what is currently in my basement waiting for spring to come:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/three3seven/IMG_20120209_184258.jpg


Another itb m42 setup?

qwerte
02-10-2012, 10:08 AM
Its for an S14.

I didn't know that people did an ITB for the M42, that would be an interesting project.

BMe30
02-10-2012, 10:49 AM
I had a feeling that it might have been for the s14. Awesome!

Before the winter i had a mock-up itb build on my m42. The build thread is a few pages back. In this thread i posted about the bigger itbs i got and the standalone im going to use. Also going to get a proper fabrication done for the set up with open stacks. Keep an eye out late spring early summer