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necie
10-20-2010, 07:38 PM
I have the original Harmon Kardon deck mounted Cd player...I'm not happy with the sound. Considering replacing the speakers with a kit from Bavarian Sound Werks. Anyone done this? Suggestions?
thanks,necie

simplycars
10-20-2010, 08:41 PM
BSW is overpriced and you can get a great sounding system for much less using quality components.

propr'one
10-24-2010, 03:25 PM
headunit will give you an enormous bump in sound quality. BSW is nice cause its PnP. If you're up to rewire your car/amp, i'd go for something else (not bmw's strange 3ohm stuff)

BMWDriver
02-28-2011, 09:07 PM
I've been pretty happy with upgrading my head unit; made a difference because it has more power to boot, not to mention mp3/iPod integration. Added a subwoofer since then to give it just a tad more bass. Could be better with speaker replacement I imagine, but I'm good like it is.

The-Traveler
02-28-2011, 10:18 PM
I would love the opinion of someone who has purchased the BSW stage 1 speaker set... as I'm in the same boat, and I know I don't want to do any speaker wiring.

Bartacus
03-01-2011, 01:19 PM
I have the BSW stage 1 kit, but I only installed the rears (since nothing else fits because I have a 320i). Those rears + an Alpine head unit = heaven compared to stock. Our stock sound systems are truly awful (can't speak for the HK).

If the rest of the BSW speakers are as good, I can't wait to source new door panels and get them installed! The rears sound great, nice deep bass.

signsmith
03-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Hey guys, I was looking at BSW also, I have an '04 330..

I was thinking of changing the head unit like you guys were talking about, but isn't it tied into the car? I set my clock in my dash with my head unit..

Bartacus
03-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Hey guys, I was looking at BSW also, I have an '04 330..

I was thinking of changing the head unit like you guys were talking about, but isn't it tied into the car? I set my clock in my dash with my head unit..

Really? I set mine with the knobs on the cluster (trip odometer reset, etc). But then, I'm driving an older 320i with ZERO options.

signsmith
03-09-2011, 09:29 PM
Hey, I think you are right! It has been a long winter.. I miss my car..
I am already forgetting how to do stuff..

signsmith
03-27-2011, 10:19 PM
Ok, got the BSW stage 1 speaker kit, and an Infinity Basslink II ... Now I just need time to install and I will let you know how much it improves the sound over the stock HK! I hope anyway... :)

slemmer
03-27-2011, 10:48 PM
BSW is overpriced and you can get a great sounding system for much less using quality components.

What would you recommend?

signsmith
04-06-2011, 07:32 PM
Installed the Stage 1 kit. Took about 1.5 hours total.. Easy fit.. I opted for the easy route this time because I don't have time to monkey around with finding speakers and making them fit..
Sounds really good, but I don't have a good direct comparison.. I tried to listen before and after, but got pulled away when I was just finishing up, and now can't say how much better it is!
I ended up finding a sub box from a friend, so the Basslink 2 is for sale if anyone is interested.. New in box, took it out and looked at it, then put it back in!
Paid $250 + HST, selling for $225 obo
I will post when I get the sub and amp installed!

BenBMW
05-06-2011, 11:51 AM
I always thought of getting the BSW Stage 1 kit but it did seem overpriced. I'll have to do an actual comparison of buying the kit compared to buying all the same components (probably different brands though) of equal quality seperately. I'll try to remember to hit this thread back up when I do that so other's can see.

Lookin' forward to seeing the pics though. :) I'm tired of my stock setup.

steve.325i
07-05-2011, 01:32 AM
I have a non-hk system and replaced all four speakers with 6.5 energy speakers from futureshop. The doors took some work but the sound is excellent imo.
If you are going to pay BSW pricing for speakers, you should also be taking your car to BMW for service.

swbatte
08-14-2011, 09:45 AM
Timely thread, as my font speakers are blown. I don't abuse the system at all, and considering a Logic 7 upgrade cost over $1000 when I bought the car, this is dissapointing.

I don't want to change the appearance of the interior and was looking at the BSW system as well. Their stage 1 kit replaces every speaker for around $550. That doesn't seem too expensive, but I have been out of car audio for 10 years.

I want to do this once and hear an improvement while I'm at it. Any other suggestions are welcome.

propr'one
09-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Hey guys, I was looking at BSW also, I have an '04 330..

I was thinking of changing the head unit like you guys were talking about, but isn't it tied into the car? I set my clock in my dash with my head unit..

Yes, you lose some functionality swapping the headunit. You'll also want to keep your factory headunit in case you need to integrate your car with a GT1 (for diagnostics, disable DRL, etc) , it wont work without the stock radio

Singe
05-25-2012, 05:55 PM
I'm also thinking of getting BSW and the only reason is it just looks so complicated and time consuming to look for different speakers and components and how would i wire them, since the HK have the male/female jack? Would i just cut it off and rewire directly to new speakers?

Thanks.

Lang75
06-07-2012, 03:07 PM
I too was considering a BSW kit as I was not satisfied with the sound quality in my E36. I ended up replacing the dech with a JVC unit which had a great deal of functionality and adjustments for the sound levels. After tweaking the settings I found that the stock speakers were able to produce some very acceptable results. It has lead me to postpone replaceing the speakers and the cost of the deck was less tham $200 with a wiring kit from Best Buy. (an added bonus is that the display is able to be matched to the orange interior lighting)

orange260z
11-01-2013, 07:14 PM
I recently upgraded my H/K stereo in my '05 330Cic with BSW components. I did the full upgrade (minus the rear mids, which were backordered) plus their ib110 infinite-baffle subwoofer that fits in the stock armrest location.

Considerations for me were that I wanted to keep the factory head unit for stealth and integration, I didn't want to have to modify panels or speakers to make them fit, and for the sub I didn't want to lose any of the already-limited trunk space (with the top down). I'm 42 years old, and I wasn't looking for a competition system or something to share my music with the entire city, but I do listen to a broad variety of music and wanted to be able to listen at decent volume levels with the top down... and be able to feel the bass with the top down, which is a challenge.

Before taking the plunge, I installed a mid-2000s (ie US-made) Rockford Fosgate Punch amplifier, nominally rated at 150W RMS mono but likely putting out over 200W RMS. To that, I connected a Energy prefab (ie factory-tuned) ported 10" enclosed subwoofer that normally rocks my full-sized SUV with less amplification. However, in the Cic I found that all of the bass was absorbed in the trunk, even with the ski-pass completely removed. For me, that ruled out any in-trunk solution.

Fast forward to my BSW install. Note that I am using my RF amp rather than the one that BSW currently supplies - their ib110 originally shipped with an RF amp very similar to mine, so Jason and I thought it was worth trying even though their new amp has slightly more power (I think around 250W RMS). Their kit was easy to install, and it turns out that the ib110 packs more than enough punch for me. I haven't even cranked it yet (still breaking in) but I find that it can pound the back of my seat even with the top down.

The speaker kit was also a pretty simple install, the most time-consuming thing was applying all of the sound deadening to the doors - that likely took me over an hour per door. The rest was pretty easy.

The speakers are much clearer than the H/Ks, particularly with cleanly-recorded music. They can also crank up quite a bit louder with clean recordings than the H/Ks did. For most classic rock, jazz, funk, hip-hop the system sounds great. Where it falls a little short is any music that is poorly-recorded or is "busy" - so for example playing Lady Gaga's "Telephone" that has built-in distortion, they sound is even more congested; Same goes for Katy Perry's "Teenage Dream". The same songs play much better in the Bose system in my wife's Suburban. Billy Joel's "Baby Grand" sounds phenomenal on the new system, though, as good as my fairly pricey home system.

Overall, it was an excellent upgrade. Customer service from Jason and Jeremy was always prompt, personal, and helpful - overall a great experience.

Cheers

Marksjaanis
04-08-2014, 03:29 PM
I have the original Harmon Kardon deck mounted Cd player...I'm not happy with the sound. Considering replacing the speakers with a kit from Bavarian Sound Werks. Anyone done this? Suggestions?
thanks,necie

Honestly, replacing the head unit is the best way in terms of quality. You wouldn't believe how good Your OEM speakers can play with an aftermarket unit. But the main dissadvantage is poor dashboard view with an aftermarket. That's why I upgraded the speakers in my car and left OEM head unit for a clean look. Sound quality is better, but I still know that it would be like day and nite with aftermarket unit.

dahliagonzal
04-28-2014, 03:28 AM
yes this will surely make an improvement of sound

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