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Spalz-_-e36
02-01-2010, 09:54 PM
i know bmw requires/recommends premuim octane but im just wondering if everyone uses it as they are suppose to?

how bad is it to use regular?

CoolAsIce
02-01-2010, 10:15 PM
shell 91

tg07lq
02-01-2010, 11:09 PM
91 here too, its not that much more and the car seems to like it much better

europrince
02-01-2010, 11:15 PM
what the gas cap and owner's manual say ;)

Mad Cow
02-01-2010, 11:32 PM
I use 87 if I'm feeling cheap, but usually 89 and sometimes 91. But compared to my last car this one handles anything below 91 amazingly even though it has slightly more compression. But then again the M52B28 is bigger, has less power and doesn't rev to 7500 before you even realize. :D

But yea, I don't see the need to spend the extra money on 91 when there's barely a difference.

drivetolive
02-01-2010, 11:46 PM
94 at Sunoco, only because I get 3 or 4 times the point compared to 91 (not that big of a difference in price anyways, think it's like 3 cents more).

740-iLL
02-02-2010, 12:21 AM
94 @ Sunoco always and the car loves it

Bullet Ride
02-02-2010, 12:35 AM
i know bmw requires/recommends premuim octane but im just wondering if everyone uses it as they are suppose to?

how bad is it to use regular?


The minimum octane requirement for your e36 is 89 octane.
Not all bmws require premium *wave*

xTurbox
02-02-2010, 12:40 AM
sunoco 94 :)

BmW1819
02-02-2010, 08:40 AM
91 shell

digiital
02-02-2010, 08:52 AM
E46 Shell 91

King Luis
02-02-2010, 09:11 AM
shell 91....i get air miles too.

hockeyfan27
02-02-2010, 09:54 AM
Sunoco 94 if possible, but frequently Shell 91.

europrince
02-02-2010, 09:58 AM
^ I love how all you guys are wasting money putting octane higher than what your car requires according to BMW's own specs, especially the Sunoco 94 on a 318 :D

digiital
02-02-2010, 09:59 AM
You mean the 94s? Says 91 for the E46, and thats what I'm putting in it.

^ I love how all you guys are wasting money putting octane higher than what your car requires according to BMW's own specs :D

europrince
02-02-2010, 10:02 AM
^ I'm refering to others that answered.

Stephanie
02-02-2010, 10:14 AM
Sunoco Ultra 94 and only that!!

My beloved winter beater gets the lowest octane available from the closest gas station when the light comes on tho... lol

twboy1999
02-02-2010, 10:18 AM
shell v-power

craz azn
02-02-2010, 11:42 AM
Enjoy Sunoco while it lasts everyone! Time to cash in my points! I'll prolly get a new chip made for my car for 91 Octane to retard the timing as 94 is gonna get harder and harder to come by (especially up where I live)

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/01/19/all-300-sunoco-stations-in-ontario-will-close-or-rebrand.htm

E30 Girl
02-02-2010, 11:50 AM
I have always put 87 in both my E30 and E36. The only time that changed was when I got the chip for the E36 then it got 91. I just picked up a new car though and that will definetly be getting 91.

greekthang
02-02-2010, 12:01 PM
My X5 gets 91 Shell. Bullshit Sunoco with there 10% ethenol burns up quick and I got less kilometers per tank.

Shell 91 rocks and its proven


http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

328IScreamer
02-02-2010, 12:48 PM
my car has only ever seen 94 since purchased by me
if 94 gets discontinued I guess I'll have to move to 91......

dbworld4k
02-02-2010, 12:52 PM
Shell 91.

Mystikal
02-02-2010, 12:56 PM
Enjoy Sunoco while it lasts everyone! Time to cash in my points! I'll prolly get a new chip made for my car for 91 Octane to retard the timing as 94 is gonna get harder and harder to come by (especially up where I live)

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/01/19/all-300-sunoco-stations-in-ontario-will-close-or-rebrand.htm

I expected yet another monthly-restarted boring post-your-gas thread, but this...

I'll be getting the E30 retuned soon if we lose 94. This could potentially cause MarkD's return-customer stats to SKYROCKET.

pawcio
02-02-2010, 01:00 PM
91+

xTurbox
02-02-2010, 01:05 PM
^ I love how all you guys are wasting money putting octane higher than what your car requires according to BMW's own specs, especially the Sunoco 94 on a 318 :D

when i get my gas paid for me why not. so in fact i'm not wasting anything cause i'm not payin for it.

davericher20
02-02-2010, 01:33 PM
I make my car smoke meth.
It always chases that first high and everywhere we go it drives fast because it can't wait till the next hit.
Sometimes I feel guilty that I introduced the habit but nothing bad has happened yet. *th-up*

Steve30
02-02-2010, 02:08 PM
v-power

StikiGreenZ
02-02-2010, 02:47 PM
Petro Canada 91 or Shell VPower 91.

You should put in the gas that the manufacturer recommends on your gas cap (unless you have aftermarket tuning).

Read your gas cap.

Stephanie
02-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Enjoy Sunoco while it lasts everyone! Time to cash in my points! I'll prolly get a new chip made for my car for 91 Octane to retard the timing as 94 is gonna get harder and harder to come by (especially up where I live)

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/01/19/all-300-sunoco-stations-in-ontario-will-close-or-rebrand.htm

When I found out about the possible 'extinction' of Ultra 94, my heart sank. The chip I run calls strictly for 93+ octane to run the map I do!!

However, I spoke to the owner of the Sunoco by my house when the place turned into a PetroCanada... He told me that all of the stations that went from Sunoco to Petro will still have the Ultra 94 fuel (this place does)... I hope its true!!!!

careless7
02-02-2010, 03:07 PM
When I found out about the possible 'extinction' of Ultra 94, my heart sank. The chip I run calls strictly for 93+ octane to run the map I do!!

However, I spoke to the owner of the Sunoco by my house when the place turned into a PetroCanada... He told me that all of the stations that went from Sunoco to Petro will still have the Ultra 94 fuel (this place does)... I hope its true!!!!

Official word from Suncor is that the stations are currently offering 94 but no guarantee if they will not cut it.


104 Southern Ont. Sunocos are sold off in overlapping markets
294 Sunocos rebranded as Petro Cans
Class action lawsuit by independent Sunoco retailers for $200mil


Where is this Petro Canada you speak of? It will be totally ****ery finding "former" Sunocos. My shit is tuned for 94 as well...
but then again E30_Girl got me a Water/Meth kit for Chirstmas, so I can run V-Power no worries woot woot

We need 110 in the ground like Michigan....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Z-Tuned/Picture291_04May05.jpg

craz azn
02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
We need 110 in the ground like Michigan....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Z-Tuned/Picture291_04May05.jpg

Thats sick! Unleaded?

As far as the Petros with 94 octane are concerned, I've never been to these stations but I gotta check them out one day. Still, I'm not driving that far for gas. That's retarded. I think I've only been to Petro once in my life in an emergency lol...

http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx?MODE=RES&A=&C=&P=ON&PC=+&R=&B=94

Stephanie
02-02-2010, 03:16 PM
^^^ That's sickness. I wants 110 octane! lol

The Gas Station Formerly Known as Sunoco is in my hood... Creditview/Britannia... That'll be a helluva mission for you!! lol

INFAMOU$
02-02-2010, 03:27 PM
Just buy Octane boost in "BULK" form and have a few handy in the trunk.. 91+ octane boost will get you 93-94. All my summer vehicles get Ultra 94.

craigIS
02-02-2010, 03:36 PM
91 Pioneer or Sunoco.

I wonder what the Pioneers will do. They get most of the gas from Suncor. Pioneer doesn't like Petro's, and neither do I.

careless7
02-02-2010, 03:38 PM
^^^ That's sickness. I wants 110 octane! lol

The Gas Station Formerly Known as Sunoco is in my hood... Creditview/Britannia... That'll be a helluva mission for you!! lol

Yeah real mission...it's like right beside E30_girl's parents house.

___________


Rudy that is crazy news...I only heard or 94 Petro Can in Montreal. SICK...less ethanol that Ultra 94? 15%?

I think the 110 was leaded...but my exhaust can roll with that *rockout*

slimjim
02-02-2010, 03:41 PM
94 in the e30...... for all u skeptics, it does make a difference.....my car doesnt jerk and stall out for instance compared to using 87/89

hockeyfan27
02-02-2010, 03:46 PM
^ I love how all you guys are wasting money putting octane higher than what your car requires according to BMW's own specs, especially the Sunoco 94 on a 318 :D

At $0.05 extra a litre, it's $3 on a 60L tank. It's not exactly hemorrhaging $$ :rolleyes:
I'm ok with spending that little bit extra to take better care of my things.

Really, how often does your car "require" a wash?
I think pride of ownership means doing more then the bare minimum and it all comes back to you in resale or longevity.

digiital
02-02-2010, 03:49 PM
WTH! They sell jetfuel at the gaspumps?



We need 110 in the ground like Michigan....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Z-Tuned/Picture291_04May05.jpg

328IScreamer
02-02-2010, 04:06 PM
At $0.05 extra a litre, it's $3 on a 60L tank. It's not exactly hemorrhaging $$ :rolleyes:
I'm ok with spending that little bit extra to take better care of my things.

Really, how often does your car "require" a wash?
I think pride of ownership means doing more then the bare minimum and it all comes back to you in resale or longevity.

well said

uzi577
02-02-2010, 04:44 PM
Just buy Octane boost in "BULK" form and have a few handy in the trunk.. 91+ octane boost will get you 93-94. All my summer vehicles get Ultra 94.


On Active Autowerks manual, states that 93 or 94 only, but if you must 91 with a octane buster.
Adapt and over come. or ........... Buffulo.

Spalz-_-e36
02-02-2010, 05:54 PM
sorry if this was a rethread im new to the forum

i was wondering because a friend of mine said i "should" use 91-94 or i could potentially damage a whole bunch of things he listed i cant remember now lol

Quack
02-02-2010, 06:01 PM
I use to use sunoco 94 only in my 540i, it was tuned to use 93+ octane, but now I drive a company car so I just put 91 octane in it, but I don't care which gas station it comes from.

europrince
02-02-2010, 06:53 PM
At $0.05 extra a litre, it's $3 on a 60L tank. It's not exactly hemorrhaging $$ :rolleyes:
I'm ok with spending that little bit extra to take better care of my things.

Really, how often does your car "require" a wash?
I think pride of ownership means doing more then the bare minimum and it all comes back to you in resale or longevity.

Unless your car is tuned to require higher octane, you're wasting your money and getting nothing for it. The incremental increase in performance is FAR less than the incremental increase in price. Plus, the spread between grades is greater than $0.05. Even if you're right, at $3/tank at 1 tank/week, that's over $150/year you're pissing away for doing no better than following what BMW recommended for your car. :rolleyes:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/01q4/regular_or_premium_-feature

europrince
02-02-2010, 06:58 PM
I expected yet another monthly-restarted boring post-your-gas thread


Every month, without fail... :rolleyes:

lvan
02-02-2010, 07:02 PM
91, but when I am high with cash 94.

Nguyen_E30
02-02-2010, 07:57 PM
shell 91 + air miles = the shit

mpower1226
02-02-2010, 11:41 PM
I use 89 cheapest available gas there is in my brand spanking new 2010 mercedes. lol
cant beat that!

but then again, it is a leased car so i dont really care as long as it stays put for 3 years.

propr'one
02-02-2010, 11:47 PM
V power in the e36, urine in the e30.

hockeyfan27
02-03-2010, 12:08 AM
Unless your car is tuned to require higher octane, you're wasting your money and getting nothing for it. The incremental increase in performance is FAR less than the incremental increase in price. Plus, the spread between grades is greater than $0.05. Even if you're right, at $3/tank at 1 tank/week, that's over $150/year you're pissing away for doing no better than following what BMW recommended for your car. :rolleyes:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/01q4/regular_or_premium_-feature

I found this interesting:
We should note that even cars designed to run on regular fuel might require higher octane as they age. Carbon buildup inside the cylinder can create hot spots that can initiate knock.

So with 250K on my 12 year old car it may not be so unnecessary to run a bit higher octane than recommended.

High octane gas is like a nice aged single malt scotch. From my perspective, neither is a waste. *th-up*
(and from my wife perspective, they taste the same):D

magnus
02-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Shell 100+ here!!!
I get better range always!

Mystikal
02-03-2010, 11:22 AM
sorry if this was a rethread im new to the forum

i was wondering because a friend of mine said i "should" use 91-94 or i could potentially damage a whole bunch of things he listed i cant remember now lol

Your car is designed for 89. Run 89.

Dammerung
02-05-2010, 02:10 AM
94 @ Sunoco always and the car loves it


Containts a lotta ethanol bro. thts the only reason i dun use the sunoco. If they were ethanol free id always use 94.

Shell 91 Nitrogen enriched :)

mamadci
02-05-2010, 09:53 AM
previous owner of my car used 87 for sometime and now i got a bad fuel sensor (i dont if its true or not). when i bought the car i had my engine light on and off randomly. i used 91 canadian tire gas (cause i get 8 cents off per litre) since i bought the car and now i dont see the engine coming on at all ever. so my suggestion is to use min 91 oct. i dont think it matters where you get the gas from cause gas companies trade gas between each other. so you could be at shell and pumping esso gas in your car! :D

richie_s999
02-07-2010, 07:47 AM
Shell 91 (no ethanol compaired to up to 10% at every other company)

and with air miles, (currently 10 airmiles for every $30 of premium) I get a $20 gas coupon for every 175 points, between the 2 daily cars we go though about 2 tanks a week, so the gas coupons bring the cost down a bit!!!

Eurotakeover
02-07-2010, 11:31 AM
91 @ shell

NOTORIOUS VR
02-07-2010, 12:16 PM
Just buy Octane boost in "BULK" form and have a few handy in the trunk.. 91+ octane boost will get you 93-94.

No it won't... 91 + off the shelf octane boosters give you like 91.4 octane... they only raise it 4-6 points for the most part, and FYI 10 points is one full octane number. So you're wasting money with that crap. And the good octane booster is not good for your O2 sensors, not to mention expensive and not widely available.

That said, I run 94.... but I could care less if they get rid of it... I got my water/meth injection so I'm good to go :)

InfiniteDice
02-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Use the fuel stated on the inside of the fuel filler door. My 87 325i says use unleaded gas, so I use whatever is cheaper.

the bachelor
02-07-2010, 06:09 PM
I ran 89 for over four years on the E36 with no problems, but use 91 from Fortinos on the E90.

5style
02-07-2010, 06:12 PM
The minimum octane requirement for your e36 is 89 octane.
Not all bmws require premium *wave*

exactly.

e30_kid89
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
The GTA needs E85.*uzi*

5style
02-07-2010, 06:23 PM
The GTA needs E85.*uzi*

Those steelies, i noticed them when I picked up the exhaust.

Want.

NOTORIOUS VR
02-08-2010, 12:15 AM
The GTA needs E85.*uzi*

Now THAT would be freekin' awesome!

There's a place/station in guelph that sells E85.... I wouldn't mind getting a few jugs and making a tune for it... Race gas octane for the price for regular fuel FTW!

davericher20
02-08-2010, 10:47 AM
or make a trip to the airport with a few jugs.

Did that in Parry sound when I raced ATV's

NOTORIOUS VR
02-08-2010, 03:12 PM
or make a trip to the airport with a few jugs.

Did that in Parry sound when I raced ATV's

essplain please! they have E85 for sale at the airport??

calegrant
02-08-2010, 05:44 PM
V power in the e36, urine in the e30.
*th-up*

To all those running 94 in stock mode, make all the excuses you want. Running the recommended lower grade fuel is going to give you the same performance without doing damage. Your $400 motor with 200k km doesn't know the difference, but your wallet does.

Junaid
02-08-2010, 11:00 PM
i never tested the gas that came outta my ass :D

usually 89 or 91

dble Trouble
02-08-2010, 11:49 PM
Car specs 87, I put in 87. Why waste money, it's proven it doesn't make a difference. As far as which type.................which ever station is closest when the low fuel light comes on.

The-Traveler
02-09-2010, 12:21 AM
I use V-Power most of the time because it's ethanol free and next to my house.

If a shell isn't around I'll pump Sunoco 94, but this rarely happens.

I like Shell a lot because their newer pumps have separated hoses for the 91. If I'm pumping just $10 to get home and it's at Esso or Petro, there's a good chance I'll get the first litre being 87 because that's what the guy before me put in.

1 litre @ 87 + 9 @ 91 = 90.6
1 litre @ 87 + 9 @ 94 = 93.3

I know it's inconsequential but hey, we're all car nerds here anyway. *th-up*

Red_Rocket
02-09-2010, 05:44 PM
Higher octane gas is a waste of money unless you have a chip. Thats why they put knock sensors on cars. Gasoline all comes from the same place,the only difference between them is the additives each company adds to it.

NOTORIOUS VR
02-09-2010, 05:50 PM
Higher octane gas is a waste of money unless you have a chip. Thats why they put knock sensors on cars. Gasoline all comes from the same place,the only difference between them is the additives each company adds to it.

This needs some clarification...

Knock sensors are NOT there for people to be cheap and put 87 in a car that requires 91.... People do it because they have no idea other then "my car needs gas and it goes in here" also it works the other way around, people pissing away $$ putting in Sunoco 94 into cars that require 87.

Red_Rocket
02-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Yes sorry. I should have said it is a waste to put higher octane gas than your car requires.

Spalz-_-e36
02-09-2010, 07:01 PM
Yes sorry. I should have said it is a waste to put higher octane gas than your car requires.

is it a good idea to put a higher octane for a fill up every couple months just to "clean" it out?

propr'one
02-09-2010, 07:30 PM
I agree with everyone bashing people who put premium in cars who dont need it. My e36 is chipped, that's why i run 91. If it weren't i'd run 89 (afaik what the fuel cap states)

richie_s999
02-09-2010, 07:48 PM
is it a good idea to put a higher octane for a fill up every couple months just to "clean" it out?

Higher octane will not clean your motor.

Dammerung
02-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Higher octane will not clean your motor.


not the motor but with additives it will clean the fuel injection system...which is quite vital :)

richie_s999
02-09-2010, 08:22 PM
not the motor but with additives it will clean the fuel injection system...which is quite vital :)

Sorry but octane rating has nothing to do with the additives in the gas to clean injectors. Every company has a different set of additive blended into their gas using a higher octane will not help clean your injectors. If this were the case you would not see injector cleaner on store shelves.

Higher octane does not always equal cleaner gas.

Dammerung
02-09-2010, 08:35 PM
Sorry but octane rating has nothing to do with the additives in the gas to clean injectors. Every company has a different set of additive blended into their gas using a higher octane will not help clean your injectors. If this were the case you would not see injector cleaner on store shelves.

Higher octane does not always equal cleaner gas.


fuel companies especially shell adds cleaning additives to the gas to help prevent build up in injectors and they added to their 91 grade...as mentioned already as long as you add a cleaning additive to your gas once in a while it is good...and while doing so i rather use 91 which has additives added in it already..since the idea is to clean the injectors...and fuel additives are in shelves because lol ppl will buy anything as long as you give them a explanation of ne sort......and by the way...the difference between 91 and 87 (not taking into account the additives added) 91 takes longer to burn as compared to 87. The price difference is made up because u get better mileage from 91 as compared to 87...it has something to do with burning at a better rate than 87...if your fuel cap says use 87 then it makes sense...if it says use 91 like mine does i dont care even if bimmer gods from the heavens told me to use 87....i wudnt..:P

propr'one
02-09-2010, 08:36 PM
Am i the only person in the world that doesn't want any ****ing cleaning additives in his gas, and just wants ****ing GASOLINE?

No nitrate-enriched cleaning agents, no ethanol, no B.S. just ****ing GAS?

Dammerung
02-09-2010, 08:37 PM
am i the only person in the world that doesn't want any ****ing cleaning additives in his gas, and just wants ****ing gasoline?

No nitrate-enriched cleaning agents, no ethanol, no b.s. Just ****ing gas?

lol

richie_s999
02-09-2010, 08:41 PM
The octane rating is a measure of the resistance of petrol and other fuels to autoignition in spark-ignition internal combustion engines.

The octane number of a fuel is measured in a test engine, and is defined by comparison with the mixture of iso-octane and heptane which would have the same anti-knocking capacity as the fuel under test: the percentage, by volume, of iso-octane in that mixture is the octane number of the fuel. For example, petrol with the same knocking characteristics as a mixture of 90% iso-octane and 10% heptane would have an octane rating of 90.[1] This does not mean that the petrol contains just iso-octane and heptane in these proportions, but that it has the same detonation resistance properties. Because some fuels are more knock-resistant than iso-octane, the definition has been extended to allow for octane numbers higher than 100.

Octane rating does not relate to the energy content of the fuel (see heating value). It is only a measure of the fuel's tendency to burn in a controlled manner, rather than exploding in an uncontrolled manner.

It is possible for a fuel to have a Research Octane Number (RON) greater than 100, because iso-octane is not the most knock-resistant substance available. Racing fuels, AvGas, liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), and alcohol fuels such as methanol or ethanol may have octane ratings of 110 or significantly higher — ethanol's RON is 129 (102 MON, 116 AKI). Typical "octane booster" petrol additives include MTBE, ETBE, isooctane and toluene. Lead in the form of tetra-ethyl lead was once a common additive, but since the 1970s, its use in most of the industrialised world has been restricted, and its use is currently limited mostly to aviation gasoline.

Hide Measurement methods

Research Octane Number (RON)

The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel in a test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing the results with those for mixtures of iso-octane and n-heptane.

Motor Octane Number (MON)

There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), or the aviation lean octane rating, which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load as it is done at 900 rpm instead of the 600 rpm of the RON[2][3]. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, a higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON. Normally, fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON.[citation needed]

Anti-Knock Index (AKI)

In most countries, including all of those of Australia and Europe the "headline" octane rating shown on the pump is the RON, but in Canada, the United States and some other countries,[which?] the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI). It may also sometimes be called the Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2.

Difference between RON and AKI

Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, the octane rating shown in the United States is 4 to 5 points lower than the rating shown elsewhere in the world for the same fuel. See the table in the following section for a comparison.

richie_s999
02-09-2010, 08:45 PM
Shell is nitrogen enriched and the blend is the same in all octanes. They used to offer a higher blend rate when they used their old cleaner, which I forgot th name of.

ACS_DAN
02-09-2010, 08:47 PM
Off topic. Rich do you have any more of those tiny cir-clips for your shifter kit left? I think the cleaning lady swept mine up off the floor.

And FWIW. The people that engineered and built your car know what's best for it. Follow the owners manual or what's inside of the gas cap unless special circumstances apply (Modified Motors). Same thing goes for oil too.

europrince
02-09-2010, 08:52 PM
And FWIW. The people that engineered and built your car know what's best for it. Follow the owners manual or what's inside of the gas cap unless special circumstances apply (Modified Motors). Same thing goes for oil too.


Amen! *th-up*

End thread/

Dammerung
02-09-2010, 08:55 PM
nooooo dont end.... u shud use the exact opposite of wutever ur gas tank cap says :P:P:P

rethread!! haha

richie_s999
02-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Off topic. Rich do you have any more of those tiny cir-clips for your shifter kit left? I think the cleaning lady swept mine up off the floor.

And FWIW. The people that engineered and built your car know what's best for it. Follow the owners manual or what's inside of the gas cap unless special circumstances apply (Modified Motors). Same thing goes for oil too.

Give me a call.

pawcio
02-10-2010, 09:22 AM
Am i the only person in the world that doesn't want any ****ing cleaning additives in his gas, and just wants ****ing GASOLINE?

No nitrate-enriched cleaning agents, no ethanol, no B.S. just ****ing GAS?

exactly. if there was no crap in the gas then you wouldn't need cleaning agents.

NOTORIOUS VR
02-10-2010, 04:24 PM
exactly. if there was no crap in the gas then you wouldn't need cleaning agents.

???

The cleaning agents aren't due to gas quality.

pawcio
02-10-2010, 05:39 PM
???

The cleaning agents aren't due to gas quality.

agreed. its gas purity.

Daonhathai
02-10-2010, 10:56 PM
What does a stock 95' 318i take?

NOTORIOUS VR
02-11-2010, 12:54 AM
agreed. its gas purity.

the additives are there to combat many of the byproducts that are in your motor before, during and after the combustion cycle. Now a days especially with all the EGR and what not going on the fuel has to clean a lot of crap. Not to mention it has to deal with moisture, cold/heat...

richie_s999
02-11-2010, 01:51 AM
What does a stock 95' 318i take?

my 95 318i calls for 91 octane