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M3Power99
11-19-2009, 02:07 AM
What do you guys think about the M3 in snow?

Last year I had a e36 M3 that I was able to drive in the snow with just all season tires. As long as you did not suddenly get on the throttle it was ok.

This time around it will be a e46 M3, I will only be driving for a month or two during winter. Not sure if it's worth getting snows? Much difference in traction due to extra HP?

///MG
11-19-2009, 02:09 AM
e36 m3 + snow = fun :)

INFAMOU$
11-19-2009, 08:22 AM
Yeup I plan to plow the roads with mine this year! Winters are nice to have.. but not necessary IMO.. especially in the GTA..

thinair
11-19-2009, 08:56 AM
I'd get narrower snows. The wide e46 rear tires are going to float on snow.

T.Dot_E30
11-19-2009, 09:05 AM
I've seen them going sideways at 5km/h on the 400 with just 1cm of snow, you most likely have wide ultra high performance summer tires on there, I would not attempt to drive on it, for your safety n others.

Now if you were to put on some decent all-season then maybe on dry days. But then why not just get winters??

Don't be that idiot I saw last year holding up 3 lanes like there was some big accident.

Darkness95m3
11-19-2009, 09:13 AM
Be safe, buy winter tires.

lgb240
11-19-2009, 09:17 AM
performance summer tires + even a little snow + rear wheel drive high performance BMW = very bad driving situations

do yourself a favour - find an inexpensive set of wheels and at least all seasons - use them for the short time you need them then sell them off to recoup most of your money back.

It's much less than your insurance decuductable ....

lgb240

sands
11-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Winter tires are a must.

propr'one
11-19-2009, 11:15 AM
i <3 winter cause my shitbox is faster than 90% of cars out there:P

hockeyfan27
11-19-2009, 11:50 AM
performance summer tires + even a little snow + rear wheel drive high performance BMW = very bad driving situations

do yourself a favour - find an inexpensive set of wheels and at least all seasons - use them for the short time you need them then sell them off to recoup most of your money back.

It's much less than your insurance decuductable ....

lgb240

not to mention increase in premium!

344i
11-19-2009, 01:31 PM
Or... get some thin winter tires, like 195 to 205s on some thin rims like the bmw e46 17' winter steelies, and leave intersections in 2nd or 3rd, some weight in the trunk and you ll be fine?

R1C3RCKT
11-19-2009, 02:34 PM
yea, defs get winters cuz summer tires are shit when it gets cold. my GY eagle f1 ds3g were startin' to lose grip when it was about 5degrees out. slight up hill in 3rd gear steady pedal pressure at 3k revs and let go of gas and got the trac light on and it was barely wet and i only have a 330ci... get winters, u'll need em with the extra power!

enfield
11-19-2009, 06:44 PM
I am going to use my E92 M3 with 414 horses this winter with 235/40/18 PA3's. Get winter tires and the M3 will be fine.

alpine86
11-19-2009, 09:22 PM
only winter tires are the answer

Mikeee46coup
11-19-2009, 11:45 PM
It would be a sin to drive an E36 M3 in the snow nowadays; the E46 M3 meh, slap some snows on and go wild.

344i
11-20-2009, 02:21 AM
I am going to use my E92 M3 with 414 horses this winter with 235/40/18 PA3's. Get winter tires and the M3 will be fine.

Way too wide, good luck

///Maluco
11-20-2009, 09:12 AM
winter tires are key to a successful winter driving season using a performance rwd vehicle.

T.Dot_E30
11-20-2009, 09:45 AM
Way too wide, good luck

Maybe for your 318, but his car came with 265s stock.

Darkness95m3
11-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Maybe for your 318, but his car came with 265s stock.

That's what the car came with, however less tire width = more traction, it's a proven fact.

Arash
11-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Maybe for your 318, but his car came with 265s stock.

Nah man, unless he runs 175's he's going to die :rolleyes:

- Axxe

T.Dot_E30
11-20-2009, 11:19 AM
That's what the car came with, however less tire width = more traction, it's a proven fact.

Your statement is true for deep/packed in snow covered roads, which maybe is 5% of winter driving here in toronto? 205s or narrower would be a death trap in an e92 m3 95% of the time in dry conditions.

He's not going to die running 235s winters, he'll do pretty well in the winter, much better than the OP on summer tires.

Mystikal
11-20-2009, 11:20 AM
Way too wide, good luck

No it's not, at all. The car weighs almost exactly the same as an E39 540i, 235s are plenty narrow for that much girth.

brunp
11-20-2009, 11:42 AM
do not consider driving in the winter without winters. Most M3's came with summers....be safe and spend money on winters. It is worth it....

Paul

enfield
11-20-2009, 09:03 PM
By the way - BMW recommends 235/40/18 PA3's all round for the E92 M3. I suspect they picked that size for a reason :D

344i
11-20-2009, 09:05 PM
No it's not, at all. The car weighs almost exactly the same as an E39 540i, 235s are plenty narrow for that much girth.

i would say 225 max, 235 seems excessive considering a car like the e39 has 225s front and 255s rear for summer, while the 16"s are 215 and 225.

344i
11-20-2009, 09:06 PM
Maybe for your 318, but his car came with 265s stock.

My 535 is also on 205s now, while summers are 225. My 318 is not my winter car, now what?

e30_kid89
11-20-2009, 09:13 PM
No it's not, at all. The car weighs almost exactly the same as an E39 540i, 235s are plenty narrow for that much girth.

No homo i giggle'd a bit when you said...."girth" :D

Mystikal
11-21-2009, 10:16 AM
i would say 225 max, 235 seems excessive considering a car like the e39 has 225s front and 255s rear for summer, while the 16"s are 215 and 225.

E39 non-M staggered was 235/255.

T.Dot_E30
11-21-2009, 12:20 PM
i would say 225 max, 235 seems excessive considering a car like the e39 has 225s front and 255s rear for summer, while the 16"s are 215 and 225.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, we will just ignore you from now on. But you should also consider not posting, your wrong Opinions/advice isn't needed.

344i
11-21-2009, 01:44 PM
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, we will just ignore you from now on. But you should also consider not posting, your wrong Opinions/advice isn't needed.

On another thought, Im not gonna bother, please block me.

5style
11-21-2009, 05:28 PM
Nah man, unless he runs 175's he's going to die :rolleyes:

- Axxe

where is your e30?

Axxe
11-21-2009, 07:13 PM
where is your e30?

Parked.

5style
11-21-2009, 10:42 PM
Parked.

shit its been a while, drift meets this winter?

W2WDETAILING
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Your statement is true for deep/packed in snow covered roads, which maybe is 5% of winter driving here in toronto? 205s or narrower would be a death trap in an e92 m3 95% of the time in dry conditions.

He's not going to die running 235s winters, he'll do pretty well in the winter, much better than the OP on summer tires.

im rocking 235's on my compass 172hp fwd thing is a tank in the snow compared to 205 all seasons

blk3
11-21-2009, 11:19 PM
snows are the only way to go. Ive used snows on all my cars and definitly would not go back to all seasons. not worth it