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5thseries
04-09-2009, 10:15 PM
got a 2006 e90 325i from the collection.. posted pics

ok, the driving is horrible, The run flats are super loud.. I am not sure if the tires are making the nose 100%, but during acceleration and stops.. stopping when speeds reach 50-20km/h, it gets reallllllyyy loud coming from the wheels, like a loud *RU RU RU RU RU RU RUGGG* Its louder then usual, and the wheel has a shake to it also driving, the wheel is so hard to turn, the power steering seems not to be working, i thought it would be a power assist set up, but I was told it was not...

Now question, could run flats be responsible for the loud, highly uncomfortable ride?

Now, the gears.. its a 6 speed manual.. shifting too 2nd is really weird, it feels like it notches on something before 100% entering second gear.. now still being on the gear subject.. clutch FULLY down.. it feels like it does not want to go into first gear at times, from the neutral position putting it into gear, seems you have to Force it in...

Starting the car in the morning... after turn over, you hear a clunk sound come for the engine, I have NO clue what it is..but after rpm drops to 500, (roughly) the engine pers...

These are the problems with the car, that i have experienced.. what exactly is going on with the car, and what needs to be fixed?? The car was taken to the stealership, and they said the runflats cannot be that loud.. so at this point im shitting myself/confused.. wheel alignment? ****.. ><

also, does any e90 drivers experience this?

e36_all_out
04-09-2009, 11:42 PM
Yes the runflats will cause that noise. Especially while under braking because there is so much more load on the front wheels while you are applying the brake. Its called cupping and because of the suspension setup on the e90's is causes a very uneven wear on inner and outer treds.

The ride that you experience to be rough is caused by the stiff side wall which makes them runflats to begin with. It feels like the car has a lowered suspension.

Best way to check is rub your hand against the tred, it will feel like a porcupine. 1 way will be smooth the other will be like going up steps

1'M Seriesus
04-10-2009, 12:32 PM
yeah the sidewalls on the run flats are extremely thick, and the can not flex like it normally would under hard racing condition.

The one tire shop in town couldn't even take them off my 1'ner, i had to get my friend at chevy dealer to take them off and put on the new Yokohama S.drives

5thseries
04-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Thank you ^

M3ti Compact
04-10-2009, 04:21 PM
got a 2006 e90 325i from the collection.. posted pics

ok, the driving is horrible, The run flats are super loud.. I am not sure if the tires are making the nose 100%, but during acceleration and stops.. stopping when speeds reach 50-20km/h, it gets reallllllyyy loud coming from the wheels, like a loud *RU RU RU RU RU RU RUGGG* Its louder then usual, and the wheel has a shake to it also driving, the wheel is so hard to turn, the power steering seems not to be working, i thought it would be a power assist set up, but I was told it was not...

Now question, could run flats be responsible for the loud, highly uncomfortable ride?

Now, the gears.. its a 6 speed manual.. shifting too 2nd is really weird, it feels like it notches on something before 100% entering second gear.. now still being on the gear subject.. clutch FULLY down.. it feels like it does not want to go into first gear at times, from the neutral position putting it into gear, seems you have to Force it in...

Starting the car in the morning... after turn over, you hear a clunk sound come for the engine, I have NO clue what it is..but after rpm drops to 500, (roughly) the engine pers...

These are the problems with the car, that i have experienced.. what exactly is going on with the car, and what needs to be fixed?? The car was taken to the stealership, and they said the runflats cannot be that loud.. so at this point im shitting myself/confused.. wheel alignment? ****.. ><

also, does any e90 drivers experience this?

The sport package 225/255 run flats on my E90 are quieter than my non-run flat 205 snows. But noisy snows are expected- what i'm trying to say is that the run flats are not that loud. Ride quality is subjective, but even with sport package and 17's, the ride is much smoother than my 318ti with H&R sport/Bilsteins (mild drop) and 15's.

You should be able to turn the steering wheel with 2 fingers, at all times. It should not shake at any time.

If your getting the "ru ru ru" noise when braking only, it's your brakes. Previously overheated brakes will make that noise. Prolonged driving with bad alignment will also cause any tire to do that as previously posted by others, but you will see visible damage if this is the case.

Engagement of every gear should be the same.

There is no audible clunk sound from within the cabin when starting the engine. If you have the window open, you can hear the starter disengage with a click, but definitly not a clunk.

I'm almost certain your E90 was previously abused if it's displaying all the symptoms you are describing. A single track day by an inexperienced driver can cause all the things you mentioned (shaking, no power assist, noise when braking, difficulty engaging gear, difficulty starting).

BigD
04-10-2009, 04:25 PM
I'm almost certain your E90 was previously abused if it's displaying all the symptoms you are describing. A single track day by an inexperienced driver can cause all the things you mentioned (shaking, no power assist, noise when braking, difficulty engaging gear, difficulty starting).

+1, I think it was a lot more than just some ham-fisted track driving. Unfortunately, this thread should have been posted before you brought the car home. It was probably an auction fix-up. Did you check its history through UVIP and carproof?

5thseries
04-10-2009, 07:36 PM
+1, I think it was a lot more than just some ham-fisted track driving. Unfortunately, this thread should have been posted before you brought the car home. It was probably an auction fix-up. Did you check its history through UVIP and carproof?Car proof is super clean.

ImolaMZ3
04-22-2009, 09:15 PM
Welcome to the world of "Run Louds" as my wife calls them. I absolutely hated them and after the second set bought some F1 GSD3's from the Tire Rack. Absolutely transformed the car. There was a service bulletin for this problem on '06's but once the miles add up you don't qualify.

As for the your other problems it doesn't sound good. My transmission shifted with one finger, no notches. Clutch engagement was smooth, never to the floor. Turn in was razor sharp. Yours is not normal.

Too bad you didn't look at mine. I had it in the classifieds on the board for a few weeks before I traded it.

KINKY
05-21-2009, 03:27 PM
run flats suck.

Get a set of proper wheels and your set to go

I've also upgraded the suspension and added reinforced strut bar and sway bars, now my car corners like a BEAST.
It performs COMPLETELY different.

MMOTION
07-21-2009, 10:21 AM
stock RFT tires suck. when i got my E90 330xi i got 162's w/ Michelin Pilot Sports and the ride is so much better and quieter...better handling too.

brunp
07-21-2009, 11:20 AM
I just changed out from 17" 225/45 R17's Continental SSR's to 18" staggered setup with Falken RT615 (so non-runflat) and the car drives smoother than the 17"s and even more so when teh 16" Bridgestones that were on the car.

Now, I am completely run-flat less as my winter tires are standard tires. I now have a sealant kit.....

Paul

automadness
07-25-2009, 07:59 PM
your prob is where you got your car from my friend bought a caddy from there and had tons of problems with it

doogee
07-26-2009, 02:02 AM
I'm pretty sure BMW's are notorious for having notchy 1st-2nd shifts. Same with it not wanting to go into 1st at stops.

rocken
08-08-2009, 10:15 AM
got mine e90 2006 and hate them further inspection showed the tires are cupped leading edge of thread is higher (taller than the trailing edge so its like a saw blade....cause? setup or lack of rotation i am told
looking for new wheels and rim save the stock 16in for winter rubber

hate the tires....so LOUD

europrince
08-08-2009, 10:17 AM
I wouldn't buy any car from The Collection. I went there a couple months ago and every car in the show room had a noticeable layer of dust on it. If that's how you care for your cars, what kind of cars are you selling? The place was just grimey.

DINO K
08-08-2009, 06:15 PM
5thseries,

once you change tires to a good summer soft compund tire the noise will go away and your car will def feel 10x better, the clicking in between gears is related to Front Engine Rear Wheel drive and that will never change..However, at the light.. put the car in 2nd and then 1st, that usually happens if you stop in the 3rd, 5th gear, so whenever you do so, just go thru the lower gears while your stopped, it will slip right into 1st, and the rpms, thats just cold start related nothin you have to worry about.

lvan
08-08-2009, 06:21 PM
I'm pretty sure BMW's are notorious for having notchy 1st-2nd shifts. Same with it not wanting to go into 1st at stops.

I think so too. When I was learing stick with my E30, there was like once in a while when it just does not wanna go in the first.

DINO K
08-08-2009, 06:37 PM
N, 3rd, 2nd, 1st

it's a VW trick ha

lvan
08-08-2009, 06:43 PM
Nah , I just get it going from 2nd. I get scared if I would break the shifter.

DINO K
08-08-2009, 06:52 PM
jus try what i said man, you think i havent been thru this? it slides into 3rd n 2nd smooth u have nun to worry about, then 1st will be smooth aswell.. i guarantee no force needed,

lvan
08-08-2009, 07:07 PM
^Yes. I have done it before.

DINO K
08-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Non sense damage to transmission

Stephanie
08-24-2009, 09:02 AM
As everyone else mentioned above, the runflats suck.

I found a new love for my car (not that i didn't love her already) when I swapped my completely-bald-at-16,000kms-runflats to a set of Kumho SPTs.

The car is quiet and feels a thousand times better... going over a bump doesn't sound like I'm breaking my car anymore and it handles significantly better as well... I find the craptacular compound on the runflats are unpredictable, especially at high speeds.

brunp
08-24-2009, 09:12 AM
As everyone else mentioned above, the runflats suck.

I found a new love for my car (not that i didn't love her already) when I swapped my completely-bald-at-16,000kms-runflats to a set of Kumho SPTs.

The car is quiet and feels a thousand times better... going over a bump doesn't sound like I'm breaking my car anymore and it handles significantly better as well... I find the craptacular compound on the runflats are unpredictable, especially at high speeds.

Just make sure you have a repair kit in your trunk. My mechanic recommended having the Canadian Tire SLIME Green goop which comes w/ an air compressor, valve removal, repair kit, etc....

Worked like a charm in the 3 weeks before I was able to get my rear-right tire repaired due to a a very small hole caused by a staple....

Paul

bs330i
08-01-2010, 09:01 AM
I have an 2006 E90, it runs smooth and beautifully, to all the ones thinking these problems are normal..your all just morons

MarkD
08-01-2010, 10:11 AM
I have an 2006 E90, it runs smooth and beautifully, to all the ones thinking these problems are normal..your all just morons

My wife's 2007 328i runs like a dream, and it also had the runflats when we bought it.. I recently bought some slightly used wheels and tires from an ad here (advertsied as Michelin Pilot Sport 2) and even though the seller said they were not run flats, I think they are as they have a "ZP" on them. They are very quiet and handle quite well. (good enough for my wife who just uses that car to do to work and back)

It sounds like the car discussed here has some other problems with it, besides possibly the run flats.

sexxxybimmer
08-01-2010, 03:00 PM
i think 2006 doesnt come with run flat

mstearnsy
08-03-2010, 08:13 PM
i think 2006 doesnt come with run flat

You're wrong.

bs330i
08-03-2010, 08:35 PM
i think 2006 doesnt come with run flat

ya they do

Italia311
08-04-2010, 03:45 PM
They definitely do...

bmwm5lover
08-04-2010, 04:31 PM
Sounds like a beat to shit car to me. Was it a lease return?
One of the main reasons why in the future I will be leasing a car is so that I can beat on it like a ginger head. I know of a few people, the thing they do to their lease cars will blow your mind. That's why they lease tho. Care free beat the shit outta your car for 1-3 years.

pissedcustom
09-01-2010, 06:30 PM
I had to resort to contacting the President of BMW to finally fix the annoying noise at the back of my BMW. This was after taking my car to the BMW dealership four times over a two-year period to try fix the noise - which they never did.

I am convinced that this noise in the back of car is widespread among BMW 3-series cars (E90). I have now heard it in four different 3-series BMWs and I was told by a BMW representative that they have had other people complain about the same issue. I have a formal BMW Field Report with pictures explaining what was causing this noise and how technicians should fix it.

Ever since taking possession of my 2009 328i BMW (E90) there has been an annoying intermittent clicking or ticking noise that seemed to be coming from the rear window area, near the top of the seat, or where the rear window meets the rear parcel shelf. I finally complained to the CEO of BMW in Germany, Norbert Reithofer, BMW Canada President Franz Jung, and BMW Canada Director of Aftersales, Stephan Kuester. BMW head office assigned an expert technician who identified the problem and fixed it.

It was necessary to get BMW head office involved since their dealer service was a nightmare - apparently incompetent, rude, patronizing and they didn't seem to care less about putting the time and effort into resolving the problem. Their typical M.O. was to claim they couldn't hear the noise, even though on a couple occasions I was in the car with them when they heard the noise. This seems to be the Modus Operandi at BMW when they cannot or do not want to resolve a noise - just deny hearing it. On two occasion when I went to pick up my car they said they didn't have time to have a proper look at it because they had too many cars to service and they ran out of time...even though I had scheduled a service 2 weeks in advance.

I was so furious at one point that I called the owner of the BMW dealership to discuss it with him. He sort of chuckled when I told him about the extremely poor service and rude BMW service representatives and manager. He said that noises are incredibly difficult to resolve and it was a waste of time to try more than once. He never apologized and his manager actually said that if I am not satisfied I should probably get my car serviced elsewhere. Unbelievable.

If you have the same problem please let me know.
You can download the BMW Field Report at this link: http://complaint.pro/bLaCBB

pissedcustom
09-16-2010, 11:20 AM
I'm running a poll on customer service at BMW on my other thread - "Finally fixed ANNOYING NOISE in my BMW". please vote - thanks

craigIS
09-16-2010, 01:42 PM
5thseries,

once you change tires to a good summer soft compund tire the noise will go away and your car will def feel 10x better, the clicking in between gears is related to Front Engine Rear Wheel drive and that will never change..However, at the light.. put the car in 2nd and then 1st, that usually happens if you stop in the 3rd, 5th gear, so whenever you do so, just go thru the lower gears while your stopped, it will slip right into 1st, and the rpms, thats just cold start related nothin you have to worry about.


You shouldn't stop with out gearing down unless you have to. You should be down shifting / gearing down. That is the proper way to drive, even says so in the drivers hand book, and is what you have to do for the test. If you gear down properly, you should actually save fuel. You don't want to be doing huge down shifts, just nice small ones, as your RPM's come down from coasting.

I actually don't dear down into first all the time, because my first is really damn notchy, and it's really hard to find the gears. Need to do maintenance.