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magnus
03-16-2009, 09:49 AM
BMW is 340bhp and Honda is 260bhp.
This proves how good the e30 M3 was. Still kicking ass 25 years later!!!!!


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328trackrat
03-19-2009, 03:05 PM
I think you mean the M3 was 240hp not 340... At least in the video it says 240ps.

Either way good video.

theblue
03-19-2009, 04:46 PM
the S2000 driver sucked compared to the M3 driver, but an interesting comparison. I've always thought these two cars a pretty similar.

Robb
03-19-2009, 05:56 PM
I think you mean the M3 was 240hp not 340... At least in the video it says 240ps.

Either way good video.


E30 M3 came in 195 hp, 215 hp, 238 hp.
The s2000 is only a 2 seater . much lighter. M3 has better downforce for corners.

mpower1226
03-20-2009, 10:20 AM
the S2000 driver sucked compared to the M3 driver, but an interesting comparison. I've always thought these two cars a pretty similar.

lol s2000 driver sucked? That is Tsuchiya himself and you call him driving suck? lol..

jello_g
03-20-2009, 10:43 AM
the S2000 driver sucked compared to the M3 driver, but an interesting comparison. I've always thought these two cars a pretty similar.
I don't claim to be an expert driver. So please enlighten me, what could the S2000 driver have done better?

King Luis
03-20-2009, 12:33 PM
anyone noticed how much more the s2000's driver had to swing his heel over to blip the throttle while down shifting while the m3's driver only had to slightly move his foot over.

craz azn
03-20-2009, 01:20 PM
^^ Could be just the way the pedals are positioned. Depends on what car I guess. Ever drive an older Porsche 911? Daayyum, thats some weird pedal positioning... hard to heel toe in that I found.

If anything in that vid, the Hondas tires sucked. Maybe thats why he was 'pitching' it into corners, sliding out at exits, etc. But then again, most street tires get greasy on track in not much time. Ugggh, now I'm starting to over-analyze it lol :(

theblue
03-20-2009, 01:41 PM
the s2000 was getting thrown around way too much... while fun, this is not the fastest approach... I got the impression he was spending a lot more time correcting small mistakes.

if he has shitty tires then it's even more critical since you don't want to overheat them because you'll just lose traction faster...

magnus
03-20-2009, 02:35 PM
I think you mean the M3 was 240hp not 340... At least in the video it says 240ps.

Either way good video.
Ooops sorry....i must have mistyped it!

magnus
03-20-2009, 02:37 PM
^^ Could be just the way the pedals are positioned. Depends on what car I guess. Ever drive an older Porsche 911? Daayyum, thats some weird pedal positioning... hard to heel toe in that I found.

If anything in that vid, the Hondas tires sucked. Maybe thats why he was 'pitching' it into corners, sliding out at exits, etc. But then again, most street tires get greasy on track in not much time. Ugggh, now I'm starting to over-analyze it lol :(

I may be wrong but i think both cars hat the same Potenza tyres!

magnus
03-20-2009, 02:41 PM
anyone noticed how much more the s2000's driver had to swing his heel over to blip the throttle while down shifting while the m3's driver only had to slightly move his foot over.


It could be because of difference in size of feet

jeffrie
03-20-2009, 05:21 PM
They both had the same type of tires.
S2000 looked to me to be a pig for understeer, forcing the driver to use the breaks more then the M3 guy to get the front to turn were it was supposed to go, few times went a little overboard and got some oversteer, car seemed to have a bad balance most likly due to the staggered tire size the S2000 had on.
Thinking the driver of the S2000 would have been just as smooth as the M3 had he had the same tires front and back, and possibly win with the extra power.

theblue
03-20-2009, 05:26 PM
I don't know about that... anybody who's good enough to be driving in a video should do better than that...

I've tracked an S2000 at dunnville and they're not that unbalanced or understeer prone.

mpower1226
03-20-2009, 11:00 PM
I don't know about that... anybody who's good enough to be driving in a video should do better than that...

I've tracked an S2000 at dunnville and they're not that unbalanced or understeer prone.

lol i suggest you lookup on the youtube with the name tsuchiya.

craz azn
03-21-2009, 12:16 AM
I may be wrong but i think both cars hat the same Potenza tyres!

No, your right, I caught that too but possibly maybe the Hondas tires where older/heat cycled much more than the M3s were? I was speaking under that notion since an S2K does not usually behave that loosely.

magnus
03-21-2009, 11:29 AM
No, your right, I caught that too but possibly maybe the Hondas tires where older/heat cycled much more than the M3s were? I was speaking under that notion since an S2K does not usually behave that loosely.

Depends on the suspension setup really.
I drove one with a Cusco coilover kit and poly bushes set at very hard. Car was really snaping all over the place.
But i do see what you mean. Maybe he was running different tyre pressures!

Robb
03-21-2009, 03:39 PM
I dont know why they made a video comparing the 2 cars.
They should compare the s2k with a miata.
The M3 is a coupe, stiffer chassis, better handling car.

AceOfSpades
03-21-2009, 10:11 PM
the simple truth is....honda sucks!

DR.ZED
03-22-2009, 08:49 AM
These guys so badly want to drift. Not too smooth.

I always wondered if a good drift driver and a smooth track driver were on the same track who would get around faster?

magnus
03-22-2009, 09:58 AM
Drift drivers would lose everytime!
The guys in the honda has actually made a video comparing drift and time attack drivers and proved his point.
Dont know which one it is but look for Option Videos or Best of Motoring early samples.