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b-dawgGTA
02-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Hi I'm looking for a 1991 318is

please pm me with anything you may have

thanks a lot
bryan

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 12:03 AM
how much you looking to drop??

b-dawgGTA
02-22-2009, 02:33 AM
around 2000 2500 ish or more depending on what what it is and when purchase it.

lvan
02-22-2009, 03:26 AM
Why not 325is? I think 318is is more reliable but less power. Than again M20 can be money pit with adjusting valves and timing belts.

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 04:19 AM
Why not 325is? I think 318is is more reliable but less power. Than again M20 can be money pit with adjusting valves and timing belts.

a 318is had the M42( this car was only in Canada for 1991) , more updated technology in the motor and is a better handling car, with a little work will somke acceleration of a 325, and will always handle better then one in the corners, remember the M3 is a 4cyl too....http://bmwnut.blogspot.com/2006/04/1991-e30-bmw-318is-performance-mods.html.... have a little read.....I am also getting 700km easy on less then 50litres of gas in mine.

OP - do your homework, any car you pick up for less the $3000 your gonna spend more then that in the next 2 years in doing whats has been neglected on the car. But then agian thats the fun of an older car :)

FIND THE ONE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE BUYING....YOU'LL LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!


318is's rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!*rockout**rockout**rockout**rockout**rockout** rockout*

lvan
02-22-2009, 04:27 AM
I have to agree for the handling. There is nothing better than when you take a sharp turn. I guess the way they put the engine in a such a balanced way is the way to go.

BBR
02-22-2009, 08:46 AM
I have an E30 318i 4 door with M50 motor PM if u intrested

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 09:02 AM
I have to agree for the handling. There is nothing better than when you take a sharp turn. I guess the way they put the engine in a such a balanced way is the way to go.

Totally, unfortunatly we as North Americans, has always has the bigger is better way of life. I think thats why so many people build these crazy turbo 6 cyl cars, 400hp is great in a strait line, but when a car is in a corner balance and wieght come into play.

I have a M42 motor I am rebuilding, and hopefully I get the M44 crank in there, which means stroker motor, hoping to hit just over 200hp at the wheels !!!!

I say stay with the 318is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 09:05 AM
and before I get mugged I respect and like the 6 cyl cars to, It amazes me to see the acceleration possible on the cars. I am totally into any E30 built to how the owner likes it. I have always loved going to shows and seeing diiferent individually built cars.!!!

everlast
02-22-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm a big fan of running and loving what you got. If you like the 318is over the 325is, great! Then make the most of what you got.

If we all had the same tastes and always did the 'best' thing and not our own thing, we'd all drive the same cars.

My bros asked me one time why I wouldn't just sell that 'old boxy thing' and get a fast sports car. Its not like I can't afford it. But I love the e30 look, and once I found one that was in pretty good shape I've spent a small fortune on it which will give me 1/2 the car I could have had if I just bought a newer sports car. And that's the way I like it!

So, b-dawg, if I can give you some advice: look for a car that the shell is in good shape. Most of all, low kms, low rust and nice interior should be the priority. Things like suspension, tires, even motor and maintenance items can be easily fixed and modified. Obviously, something with low kms and good maintenance records, bone stock in appearance would be best, imo.

Wheels often 'sell' a car sadly, and should be the absolute last thing that affects the decision in buying the car, since they're the easiest to change.

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 12:52 PM
very well said ^^

SamE30e
02-22-2009, 03:01 PM
M20's are indestructable, M42's.. Not so much.

e30_kid89
02-22-2009, 03:36 PM
^^^^Werd...By 300k Id be worried about the sump falling into the oil pan and worn to shit chain guide rails and the chain itself....when the m42 has problems it can turn into a nasty money pit.

b-dawgGTA
02-22-2009, 07:17 PM
I do plan on working on her, lol i want to make it my own, not buy one thats already done up. thanks for the advice, i think ill be going with a 318is for a couple other reasons to one being running premium gas will be cheaper(not to sound cheap)

and when you guys say low ks does that mean around 200xxx because i dont think ive seen one under that lol

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 07:39 PM
M20's are indestructable, M42's.. Not so much.

I have 330000km on the one in my car and it runs great, unlike you I know not to put 20lbs of boost from a turbo on a motor like that without building it up first:D even an M20 need to be built up to be reliable boosted!!!!

lvan
02-22-2009, 08:49 PM
^^^^Werd...By 300k Id be worried about the sump falling into the oil pan and worn to shit chain guide rails and the chain itself....when the m42 has problems it can turn into a nasty money pit.

I would not agree. Take a look how many dudes get early model E36 with M42 and keep beating it. If their cars hold up to 300k, I am sure that chain would do ok at 300k. I am confident that M42 goes in the same time frame when M50 came out. And how many people have you came across that had to do chain at 300km. Not many on max. Most of them pop up with headgasket issues. Even sunfire/cavalier do 300k witout a major overhaul.

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 09:01 PM
I think the fact that the M42 was only in North America for the last year of production of the E30's (except for the convertable), limits the knowledge about it and how the cars handling is improved by lower weight and weight distribution with this motor. The 6 cylinder cars are everywhere, and b4 the M42 the M10 was used which alot of people was in the 1991 318is too. The M42 was very advanced for its time, and shares alot of design with the M50. Most people don't realize the all conquering M3 E30's were a 4 banger, adn blew any 6 cylinder off the map. There are advantages of building up a E30 318is and I think in the long run the car will become a classic and more saught after doe to being a one hit marvel in north america.

e30_kid89
02-22-2009, 09:19 PM
I would not agree. Take a look how many dudes get early model E36 with M42 and keep beating it. If their cars hold up to 300k, I am sure that chain would do ok at 300k. I am confident that M42 goes in the same time frame when M50 came out. And how many people have you came across that had to do chain at 300km. Not many on max. Most of them pop up with headgasket issues. Even sunfire/cavalier do 300k witout a major overhaul.

Have you ever been to M42club.com and read about numerous guys have the SAME problems with the whole chain drive system?

I used to have a 318is myself....It's meh, Aftermarket sucks and u have to spend tons of $$$ to make it almost as fast as a STOCK m50 swapped or a modded m20:P

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 09:36 PM
Have you ever been to M42club.com and read about numerous guys have the SAME problems with the whole chain drive system?

I used to have a 318is myself....It's meh, Aftermarket sucks and u have to spend tons of $$$ to make it almost as fast as a STOCK m50 swapped or a modded m20:P

you can get 130 hp at wheel(thats about 160flywheel) for less then a grand on an m42, the 4cyl is about weight distribution in the car, thats why they handle better, A well built 318is will out perform a 6cyl of similar mods on the track. it just handles better, but then again it always comes down to the driver, and what they build the car for, and I beleive the OP is looking at gas milage, and performance.

I am getting 700km on 50L of premium in my 318is, and when I open it , it goes, and corners so nicely

SamE30e
02-22-2009, 09:39 PM
I have 330000km on the one in my car and it runs great, unlike you I know not to put 20lbs of boost from a turbo on a motor like that without building it up first:D even an M20 need to be built up to be reliable boosted!!!!


My M20 took the beating of a life time at 378k. My M42 at 300k exploded at the 5th time it hit redline.

e30_kid89
02-22-2009, 09:45 PM
I think the fact that the M42 was only in North America for the last year of production of the E30's (except for the convertable), limits the knowledge about it and how the cars handling is improved by lower weight and weight distribution with this motor. The 6 cylinder cars are everywhere, and b4 the M42 the M10 was used which alot of people was in the 1991 318is too. The M42 was very advanced for its time, and shares alot of design with the M50. Most people don't realize the all conquering M3 E30's were a 4 banger, adn blew any 6 cylinder off the map. There are advantages of building up a E30 318is and I think in the long run the car will become a classic and more saught after doe to being a one hit marvel in north america.

Have you looked at the compariosns between a 325is VS a M3? Theres a old article floating around.

As for the m42 blowing out 6cyls off the map, Id like to see you whoop one on the track myself;)

b-dawgGTA
02-22-2009, 09:59 PM
OP is looking at gas milage, and performance.

I am getting 700km on 50L of premium in my 318is, and when I open it , it goes, and corners so nicely

Bingo

lol lets stop the war in this thread they are both awesome because they both have the same body :)

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 10:03 PM
Have you looked at the compariosns between a 325is VS a M3? Theres a old article floating around.

As for the m42 blowing out 6cyls off the map, Id like to see you whoop one on the track myself;)

don't put word in others mouth's !!!!!I said if biult right it can out perform on the track, but it comes down to the driver, I never said anything about it blowing them off the map.

SamE30e
02-22-2009, 10:37 PM
The point is a a modded m42 still needs to be modded to beat a stock 325.

Hell, my 325e was faster then a 318.

e30_kid89
02-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Fair fair enough. I apologize but I think the whole 4cylzzzz handle a billion times better is overrated. YES there is less weight over the front axle YES they are 50/50, but a 6cyl is not too far behind in terms of distribution (48/52).

Peace and good luck with your search for an E30. What ever you get weather its 4,6,8,10Cyl:D as along as its a e30 chassis you will be happy.

richie_s999
02-22-2009, 11:23 PM
The point is a a modded m42 still needs to be modded to beat a stock 325.

Hell, my 325e was faster then a 318.

faster only counts in a strait line, I am talking about handling, and over all performance.

A stock 325 goes faster in a strait line, but braking distance and cornering ect goes to the 318is.

e30_kid89
02-22-2009, 11:32 PM
faster only counts in a strait line, I am talking about handling, and over all performance.

A stock 325 goes faster in a strait line, but braking distance and cornering ect goes to the 318is.

So you're saying a 318is will noticably outbrake a 325is?

EDIT: another question..With the M42 being so "lightweightzz" and nimble are you saying a stock 318is VS a stock 325is, same suspension,tires driver exp etc that the 318is will be faster than the 325is? In a road course?

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 12:27 AM
faster only counts in a strait line, I am talking about handling, and over all performance.

A stock 325 goes faster in a strait line, but braking distance and cornering ect goes to the 318is.

Ok so in stock form the 318 would out brake the 325 noticably?

The 1990 318is weighs 2602lbs and the 325i 2811lbs. 209lbs isn't that big of a deal and wouldn't make that much of a difference, and seeing as how the 325is has wider tires up front from the factory that make a pretty big difference when we're talking 200lbs more to brake.

The 325is would beat the 318is on a track, the 318 doesn't have that much of a weight or handling advantage (if any) to make a large enough gap that couldn't be made up in the straight by the 325.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 12:40 AM
The 1990 318is weighs 2602lbs and the 325i 2811lbs. 209lbs isn't that big of a deal and wouldn't make that much of a difference, and seeing as how the 325is has wider tires up front from the factory that make a pretty big difference when we're talking 200lbs more to brake.

Disagree. 318iS and and 325iS share the same rims and tire size.

The 325is would beat the 318is on a track, the 318 doesn't have that much of a weight or handling advantage (if any) to make a large enough gap that couldn't be made up in the straight by the 325.

Agreed. x10.

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 12:47 AM
Disagree. 318iS and and 325iS share the same rims and tire size.

Yea you're right, only the 318i came with 175's up front.

slimjim
02-23-2009, 01:11 AM
i didnt read everything but with 250$ u can make the m20 own all.....4.1 diff :P....theres no chance even a modded m42 N/A would catch that on a track

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 01:56 AM
Sam and Kid - you are really letting it beat you up that yes the car with the smaller motor will be the better handling car, even when I agree with you that the 6 cylinder is faster but yes heavier, thus doesn't handle as well. Its math I ain't saying any car is better then the other ....I origionally said that you can get 130 hp at the wheel(160hp crank) for less then a$1000 of work to the motor and that coupled with wieght distribution would be better then the 6cy with similar mods.

Now there are many ways of going faster.

North American traditional way -

1) put a bigger motor from another car in you car.

2) force more air into motor (super or turbo)

Now these 2 suit the 6 cylinder, but, will always weigh more!!!! More weight, even 200lbs will make a difference in handling and braking.

Other ways of going faster.....

1) less weight

2)gearing

3)less rotational mass

4)freeflowing less restriction

and so on....now back to the debate who's right??? 4 or 6??? both are right!!!!!!
both motors are great, both cars are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take a breath and lets enjoy that there are more then one way to build a great E30, I build mine to suit me, which I want a stroked supercharged M42 pushing 250hp and redlining at 9000rpm in a car that weighs under 2500lbs. and has as close to 50/50 weight distrubion. So Thats why I like my m42 318is!!!

Sam blew up a M42 with a turbo pushin 20lbs of boost, now is dropping a M20 in his ride, and I have been enjoying reading about it. It sounds like he like to push what he build to the upper limits and can't wait to hear about his build with a M52 or V8 next.

Kid has decided to go with the 6cyl in his car from what I have read, and other then a poorly painted valve cover(Sorry Rudy's does look nicer hehe) another story I have enjoyed seeing and reading about.

and stop trying to manipulate what is being said already guys, so not cool!!!!

" A stock 325 goes faster in a strait line, but braking distance and cornering ect goes to the 318is."

Both of you are adding words exagerating my statements, for what reason I can't figure out. You both are 2 of the most technically knowledgable people I have seen on the board, and you are offering numbers that only support what I have said. 1991 318is is lighter, and does have better weight distribution, now no matter how slight the numbers both of you provided about this prove by laws of physics and math that the 318is will out brake and handle the 328is.

Stop trashing people for building differently and enjoy the outcome, I am so tired of hearing just drop a 6 in and get a turbo....why give up and do what everyone else is doing. Its so borring seeing all the cars the exact same. Offer what you have learned and maybe someone else can use that and get to the next level.

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 01:58 AM
i didnt read everything but with 250$ u can make the m20 own all.....4.1 diff :P....theres no chance even a modded m42 N/A would catch that on a track

read everything *no-no*:D

slimjim
02-23-2009, 02:02 AM
^^^i take out back seat + sound proffing + trunk lining + spare tire + im skinny, theres ur 200 pounds difference and then some. 200 pounds is noticable, but only when comparing cars of equal power, otherwise its hard to compare........and i dont think an m42 could out handle a m20...u just think that because everything seems easier in slo-mo :)

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 02:04 AM
^^^i take out back seat + sound proffing + trunk lining + spare tire + im skinny, theres ur 200 pounds difference and then some. 200 pounds is noticable, but only when comparing cars of equal power, otherwise its hard to compare........and i dont think an m42 could out handle a m20...u just think that because everything seems easier in slo-mo :)

dude your trying to cause shit and rock the boats, go to bed and stop being a shit head LOL*rockout*:P

slimjim
02-23-2009, 02:05 AM
dude your trying to cause shit and rock the boats, go to bed and stop being a shit head LOL*rockout*:P

*angel*my expresso shot hasnt worn out yet:moon:

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 02:06 AM
*angel*my expresso shot hasnt worn out yet:moon:

couldn't tell *th-up* get a half shot next time since your so skinny *wiggle*

slimjim
02-23-2009, 02:09 AM
couldn't tell *th-up* get a half shot next time since your so skinny *wiggle*

it was actually a 1.5 shot..and instead of skinny, i meant lean mean killing machine :)

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 02:17 AM
it was actually a 1.5 shot..and instead of skinny, i meant lean mean killing machine :)

ok what ever floats you boat :huh?:

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 02:47 AM
Sam blew up a M42 with a turbo pushin 20lbs of boost, now is dropping a M20 in his ride, and I have been enjoying reading about it. It sounds like he like to push what he build to the upper limits and can't wait to hear about his build with a M52 or V8 next.



Uhhhhh...

First?

Edit: I'm leaving it at no replacement for displacement, and the M20 will still out perform a M42.

lvan
02-23-2009, 03:48 AM
I am confident the only M20 (I) that are putting their HP are the ones that were taken care of. Those are hard to come. Even if they come , the owners is looking for insane amount of cash. That much that you can pick up E36 with newer M52 engine aka 328. Than again with the M20 E30, you will be doing expensive service as Water pump and T-belt that come ine quite frequent as to 90k.

Remember how E30 kidd said to Ivan (proprone) DO the T belt, it will smack your valves if it snaps.

lvan
02-23-2009, 03:52 AM
My friend has a 2005 1.8T passat and the dealer wants 2K to do the belt. I know on a VW it is an other world, but when you have economical / modern bmw engines as M52, NOT sure why you so keen on M20. No T-belt car for me.

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 07:49 AM
im not running it on the track it is my dd, i will drive it hard though, gas milage is a concern, and i will modd the engine a bit because ive driven both and yes i liked the speed of the 325. but with proper modds im sure ill get a 42 close to a stock 325.

in closing does any one have a 318is in okay shape to sell me in the GTA area?

richie_s999
02-23-2009, 09:19 AM
im not running it on the track it is my dd, i will drive it hard though, gas milage is a concern, and i will modd the engine a bit because ive driven both and yes i liked the speed of the 325. but with proper modds im sure ill get a 42 close to a stock 325.

in closing does any one have a 318is in okay shape to sell me in the GTA area?

if I find one I will let you know, and any help you need with the car once you get it let me know, as for mods check this link out, it shows a perfect list of mods for a daily driver.

hope you find one soon, I know a few people with them but they won't sell, now something you can always do is put a m42 driveline in a good shell, I think I may know a few people with a drive line for you if you want to do that.

oh the link is.....http://bmwnut.blogspot.com/2006/04/1991-e30-bmw-318is-performance-mods.html

T.Dot_E30
02-23-2009, 11:01 AM
Than again with the M20 E30, you will be doing expensive service as Water pump and T-belt that come ine quite frequent as to 90k.


Ivan, you keep mentioning t-belt/waterpump and saying it's expensive.
The timing belt actually only cost $30US from BMA.
Doing the waterpump is optional/preventative maintainance. Part costs $60-80 so might as well.
Adjusting valves, cost nothing if you DIY.

Low cost, and fairly easy to do, no special tools required.

Now labour is another story that is whats expensive, but people that own e30s do their own work and save a ton on maintainance.

An e30 is a car you work on yourself, wouldn't recommend it to someone who can't fix anything themselves unless they don't mind paying for repair costs.

T.Dot_E30
02-23-2009, 11:06 AM
My friend has a 2005 1.8T passat and the dealer wants 2K to do the belt. I know on a VW it is an other world, but when you have economical / modern bmw engines as M52, NOT sure why you so keen on M20. No T-belt car for me.

I've done a timing belt on a 1.8 Passet, the reason that it costs 2k, is that VW/Audi engineers are a bunch of assholes, you need to remove the entire front clip (headlights, bumpers, rad, condensor....etc) just to get at the front of the engine.

Stupidest car to work on, and shouldn't be compared to doing a timing belt on an e30.


An e30 m20 timingbelt/waterpump, is <$500 max at bimmersport....and they can probably finish it in an hour or two.

lvan
02-23-2009, 11:24 AM
^Correct. I was just pointing out some regular maintanence costs for a roockie E30 owner. As a said earlier, the body is number one factor, everything else can be worked on.

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 01:17 PM
This threads going epic soon.

Wannabe
02-23-2009, 03:37 PM
http://barrie.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-BMW-1991-BMW-318-is-5-speed-in-white-W0QQAdIdZ109098899

theres your new car!

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 04:42 PM
thank you thank you ill probably being calling about her tonight

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 04:58 PM
I called the guy,
just need an opinion from you guys

Car info

260k
has little rust behind front wheel wells
new bat
new brakes
new winters
has lots of service paper work
NEEDS starter
will need clutch

hes asking 750 and wants it gone soon

now are the ks to high? any other input would be great thanks

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 05:01 PM
Well I'm going to barrie tonight. I could be an asshole and buy this, then flip it.

And it's in better condition then my 318 lol

craz azn
02-23-2009, 05:15 PM
I think its an alright deal. One of you guys better buy it asap.

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 05:39 PM
If I went there with 500$ cash tonight he'd probably take it.

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 05:53 PM
why you gotta go steal ma possible ride lol

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 06:01 PM
nvm you can have it, i wont be able to get it home no flat bed and im not towing it lol i need one i can atleast drive home

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 06:07 PM
Why can't you drive it? Push start it son! or CAA it.

I'm going to look at it tonight, going to see how little he will take for it.

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 06:20 PM
it needs a starter i could caa it. hm also just to let you know he had an offer for 400 and that was to low

e30_kid89
02-23-2009, 06:38 PM
oh the link is.....http://bmwnut.blogspot.com/2006/04/1991-e30-bmw-318is-performance-mods.html

The most ironic thing about it is the person who wrote that article now has a s50 in his e30...:D;)

b-dawgGTA
02-23-2009, 06:40 PM
thats not ironic.. ironic would be him having a 325

e30_kid89
02-23-2009, 06:43 PM
thats not ironic.. ironic would be him having a 325

mmmmkay................lol

everlast
02-23-2009, 07:37 PM
thats not ironic.. ironic would be him having a 325

LOL noob made teh win!

Good luck on your search dude. Don't be impatient either!

everlast
02-23-2009, 07:37 PM
Oh, and why not get a trip permit and bumpstart that bitch? $750 sounds like a good deal; nice looking car.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 07:54 PM
^^ We don't have trip permits anymore bro. The new 'Temp' permits are issued in the form of a unique sticker that goes where the renewal sticker goes on the rear plate.

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 09:54 PM
Oh, and why not get a trip permit and bumpstart that bitch? $750 sounds like a good deal; nice looking car.

dont worry my caa is picking it up soon. ;)

e30_kid89
02-23-2009, 10:11 PM
^^^faliz...finish your swap car first.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 10:13 PM
noooo do the swap into teh better carz

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 10:53 PM
It's up in the air what i'm doing with it.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 10:54 PM
So you ARE buying it then?

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 10:58 PM
No, I DID. Buy it.

I have a bill of sale. And he has money.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Sweet. So now you have TWO broken cars... :P

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 11:01 PM
Well I havea starter in the garage for a M42, so as of tomorrow, 1. Then as of the weekend. 0.

craz azn
02-23-2009, 11:02 PM
Sweet. Put that turbo to good use then in Snow White, I wanna have a Boosted 4cyl race in the summer :D

e30_kid89
02-23-2009, 11:03 PM
Sweet. Put that turbo to good use then in Snow White, I wanna have a Boosted 4cyl experiment in the name of science in the summer :D

fixed.

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 11:12 PM
fixed.

Danny on R3v did this, it didn't go so well, he bought a megasquirt last week lol.

I want to keep it stock.

ACS_DAN
02-23-2009, 11:17 PM
You got another one... now you're just being greedy.

hmm lets see what shall I drive today sweet a 318is... or lets see a m50'd 318is

=p

craz azn
02-23-2009, 11:18 PM
Danny on R3v did this, it didn't go so well, he bought a megasquirt last week lol.

I want to keep it stock.

Pussy.

e30_kid89
02-23-2009, 11:19 PM
OMG! His 4cyl will out corner that big ugly 6cyl m50! holy shit its gonna be a beasttt!! think of the weight savingz yoh........ Junior m3 ftwz

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 11:23 PM
Dude, I had a turbo M42 running 20psi, now I'm putting and M20 in.

Get your shit straight!

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 11:24 PM
Pussy.

Turbo your M20 on stock motronic!

craz azn
02-23-2009, 11:30 PM
Dude, I had a turbo M42 running 20psi, now I'm putting and M20 in.

Get your shit straight!

LOL! That made me laugh. *rockout*

SamE30e
02-23-2009, 11:33 PM
When he said it I almost died.

e30_kid89
02-24-2009, 12:00 AM
Dude, I had a turbo M42 running 20psi, now I'm putting and M20 in.

Get your shit straight!

damn bro, you screwed up your distrubition weight. now you're like every other american loving BIG(2.5l) 6cyl engines....and your fuel economy.....*drink*

lets not even go there. it aint pretty.

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 12:04 AM
Hey, if my car was a stock 318is, i'd dust you on the track. so STFU.

e30_kid89
02-24-2009, 12:13 AM
Hey, if my car was a stock 318is, i'd dust you on the track. so STFU.

tru tru...:D

PinkieMoscow
02-24-2009, 12:17 AM
Hey bud, I just found this on kijiji, looks really clean. Give it a go. (price is very nice)
http://barrie.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-BMW-1991-BMW-318-is-5-speed-in-white-W0QQAdIdZ109098899

e30_kid89
02-24-2009, 12:20 AM
^^^Couple hours/posts too late*repost*

http://barrie.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-BMW-1991-BMW-318-is-5-speed-in-white-W0QQAdIdZ109098899

theres your new car!

PinkieMoscow
02-24-2009, 12:27 AM
Pinkie=Fail

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 12:44 AM
hey bud, i just found this on kijiji, looks really clean. Give it a go. (price is very nice)
http://barrie.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-bmw-1991-bmw-318-is-5-speed-in-white-w0qqadidz109098899


mine!

PinkieMoscow
02-24-2009, 12:46 AM
You bought it?

Eurostyle
02-24-2009, 12:51 AM
mine!

Did you buy it!??? You making a collection or what?:D

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 12:57 AM
Yes sir.

Eurostyle
02-24-2009, 01:03 AM
Yes sir.

lol...what are the plans for this one?

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Not a clue man.. Not a clue.

PinkieMoscow
02-24-2009, 01:09 AM
ugh, I'm so jealous. Is it uber clean? You've got to post pics!

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 01:11 AM
It was dark, pretty clean from the looks of it though.

Eurostyle
02-24-2009, 01:26 AM
Not a clue man.. Not a clue.

Buy now, figure out what to do with it later! I've done that a few times*shiner*
Some deals are just too good to pass...

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 01:28 AM
Exactly.

lvan
02-24-2009, 02:27 AM
Dude , I am glad you picked her up. I think the car is not okay deal, it is a steal lol.

lvan
02-24-2009, 02:29 AM
Now just sell the red one and keep white one heheh.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 06:57 AM
WOW - this thread is messed, its like a spy movie gone bad!!!
Guess Sam will be parting it out, or swapping the motor, my how one tone changes once they own something. Guess it must be a pretty good car, you had no hesitation about rushing to buy it.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 07:05 AM
Not a clue man.. Not a clue.

I think this quote sums up what has become of this thread:eek:*wiggle*

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 07:26 AM
lolz this thread is massive, hope you like the car. ill find mine someday soon :) :)

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 07:53 AM
just a question is it hard to do a 5 speed swap on an e30? could it be done in a drive way for example. there is a car in kitchener for once :):) just lacking 5speed

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 08:12 AM
Yea, just for the love of god, save yourself the trouble and PULL THE ENGINE if you're swapping it into a 6 cylinder.

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 08:55 AM
WOW - this thread is messed, its like a spy movie gone bad!!!
Guess Sam will be parting it out, or swapping the motor, my how one tone changes once they own something. Guess it must be a pretty good car, you had no hesitation about rushing to buy it.


I'm pretty sure you just say the polar opposite of what is actually true.

Wannabe
02-24-2009, 09:06 AM
No, I DID. Buy it.

I have a bill of sale. And he has money.

thank me thank me thank me thank me!!!!!:moon:*wave*

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 09:34 AM
Yea, just for the love of god, save yourself the trouble and PULL THE ENGINE if you're swapping it into a 6 cylinder.

You confuse me more then my wife!!!! Sam....why did you buy that car????

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 09:59 AM
it is a six lolz its just auto, the engine was just rebuilt to so i wouldnt pull it. im just asking if a tranny swap from auto to stick is kind easy and can be done at my house

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 10:21 AM
it is a six lolz its just auto, the engine was just rebuilt to so i wouldnt pull it. im just asking if a tranny swap from auto to stick is kind easy and can be done at my house


Ok, when you're under the car with 3 extensions and 2 swivels trying to get the socket on and swearing your balls off because you can't get the very top inverted torx bolt that is most likely seized, off. Remember what I said =)

You'll think in your head "Why didn't I listen to Sam."

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 10:22 AM
You confuse me more then my wife!!!! Sam....why did you buy that car????


You confuse me more than quantum physics.

And because I could. 600$ 318is in alpine white, with houndsooth and a mint underbody. Why wouldn't I?

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 10:22 AM
it is a six lolz its just auto, the engine was just rebuilt to so i wouldnt pull it. im just asking if a tranny swap from auto to stick is kind easy and can be done at my house

its not hard, but for what it will cost you to buy all the parts, tranny clutch flywheel driveshaft pedals ect, it can be a bit of work. Its not hard to find a manual in good shape.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 10:27 AM
You confuse me more than quantum physics.

And because I could. 600$ 318is in alpine white, with houndsooth and a mint underbody. Why wouldn't I?

Cause you just spent the whole day saying it was inferiour then you buy it!!!!

you were all gun ho about the M42 when you found out it wasn't a M10 and built it up, and blew it up (sorry 20lbs boost on a high milage motor not rebuilt....you were neglegent and thats why it blew) Now your the poster child for the m20 cause you got one, and you go on and on about how its so much better ......and you buy another M42 car.......your off your little rocker dude!!!!

:confused::confused::confused:

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 10:33 AM
ironic- being the poster child for m20 then buying m42 lolz :p

lvan
02-24-2009, 10:33 AM
I am confused lol. Sam were not you putting M50 in your red E30? What M20 are they talking about.

everlast
02-24-2009, 10:34 AM
You confuse me more than quantum physics.

Maybe not, maybe his uncertainty is making you him appear confusing!

ba-dum-cha!

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 11:14 AM
ironic- being the poster child for m20 then buying m42 lolz :p

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115851

Thanks.

I am confused lol. Sam were not you putting M50 in your red E30? What M20 are they talking about.

I was just entertaining this guy thinking he knows what he's talking about.

Cause you just spent the whole day saying it was inferiour then you buy it!!!!

you were all gun ho about the M42 when you found out it wasn't a M10 and built it up, and blew it up (sorry 20lbs boost on a high milage motor not rebuilt....you were neglegent and thats why it blew) Now your the poster child for the m20 cause you got one, and you go on and on about how its so much better ......and you buy another M42 car.......your off your little rocker dude!!!!

:confused::confused::confused:

Yea, the 318is is inferior to the 325is :confused:. But I still have a 318is. which my I add, after the weekend will have a M50 in it, not a M20.

If I was to own a car that was inferior to anything else i'd own a ****ing ZONDA.

And PSSST.. Where are you getting my car was turbo and running 20psi? MY CAR WAS NEVER BOOSTED!! It was a 100% bone stock M42 that went super lean when the timing chain skipped and melted some internals.

Anybody here with any common sense will tell you that the 325is would beat a 318is on the track.

You need to get your facts straight man, theres no such think as a "Motorsport 318is with special factory suspension" I'm pretty sure they told you this on R3V.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 11:30 AM
hey sam this pic look familair, :moon: I beleive this was your build thread "the $300 318is that went on and on and on, I think you found the car deleivering pizza's??? Y*uzi**uzi**no-no**no-no*


and sorry I think it was f to the u to the on and on to 25psi

way to much boost for a unbuilt motor !!!!!!!!!!!!!

All your words all you posts!!!!

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 11:31 AM
oh and Sam your proving your a shit talker....and trying to be a dick on here.

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Wow.. Look at all that piping, and lines going to the turbo, and it's a nice turbo manifold don't you think. And look at all that hood clearance.
I'm so baller I dump the exhaust right into the engine bay.

I'm going to pick my car up now PEACE!

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 11:36 AM
Wow.. Look at all that piping, and lines going to the turbo, and it's a nice turbo manifold don't you think. And look at all that hood clearance.
I'm so baller I dump the exhaust right into the engine bay.

I'm going to pick my car up now PEACE!

Your ****ed up man.....your a talker thats about it, don't think you have an origional clear idea in your head.....talk to your doctor dude, there have been major advances in medication that may be able to help you, and your little dog too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everlast
02-24-2009, 11:47 AM
Ok. This thread must stop. In order to facilitate this, I will post porn. E30 porn. You KNOW you all love e30s, and hell you even love each other (in the non-gay way) for loving e30s. So stop bickering and feel the love.

http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/8467438/0610turp_01z+1988_bmw_e30+right_front_view.jpg
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/attachments/bmw-wheels-tires/32890d1156535420-bmw-17-e30-hartge-style-rims-direct-fit-dscf1098.jpg
http://www.corradocentral.com/images/m3/DSCN0062.JPG
http://www.theclassiccarshow.com/upload/CarImages/1528.jpg
http://www.michaelseidel.com/tmp/pics/p1010067.jpg

:cool:

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 11:58 AM
OMG E30 M3'S hey Sam better rip out the 4 banger in them and drop a 6cly :)

everlast
02-24-2009, 12:06 PM
^^ HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit continuing the argument.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 12:19 PM
^^ HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit continuing the argument.

:) That was a joke *th-up*

everlast
02-24-2009, 12:19 PM
So was mine. :D

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 12:22 PM
So was mine. :D

I give this thread has been around the block more then a $10 hooker....thank god I got in when it was fresh :D

:cool:

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 12:26 PM
OMG E30 M3'S hey Sam better rip out the 4 banger in them and drop a 6cly :)

ironically im at the doctors officw now. After hes done fondling my balls ill get him to check my head. And how in the **** could you ever compare a s14 to a m42, are you retarded.

richie_s999
02-24-2009, 12:31 PM
ironically im at the doctors officw now. After hes done fondling my balls ill get him to check my head. And how in the **** could you ever compare a s14 to a m42, are you retarded.

not fully retarded, just enough to drive and E30 and love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*wiggle*

ummmmm- both 4 cyl, dual over head cams 4 valves, same weight, I do beleive once I get that m44 crank your opion may sway a bit.....

Stroker baby*rockout*

ACS_DAN
02-24-2009, 01:40 PM
not fully retarded, just enough to drive and E30 and love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*wiggle*

ummmmm- both 4 cyl, dual over head cams 4 valves, same weight, I do beleive once I get that m44 crank your opion may sway a bit.....

Stroker baby*rockout*

So much more to the differences of the S14 and the m42 than that.

S14 has a little S38 in it's blood. M42 was just like.... Something the BMW engineers at the time came in from a weekend of Drunken Partying and unprotected sex and then still buzzed they went on to create the m42.

I beleive they did make an S42 for a race car and put them in early e36's or something, but I have no interest in BMW's "high performance" 4 cylinder motors to do further research

Mercedes on the other hand with their bad ass Cosworth's now those are some hard piping mo-****a's.

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 03:21 PM
not fully retarded, just enough to drive and E30 and love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*wiggle*

ummmmm- both 4 cyl, dual over head cams 4 valves, same weight, I do beleive once I get that m44 crank your opion may sway a bit.....

Stroker baby*rockout*

wow. i will never question you again. you know all about e30s.

PinkieMoscow
02-24-2009, 06:57 PM
op-
http://cornwall.kijiji.ca/f-cars-vehicles-cars-W0QQCatIdZ174QQmaxPriceZ1Q2c000

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 09:35 PM
oh my poor wtb thread is ruined...

e30_kid89
02-24-2009, 10:02 PM
Not really, somebody did show you a nice 318is but then somebody stole it........

...Um yeah it was ruined:D I apologize on my part but I couldn't help see the false statements about motorsport 318's:D

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 10:10 PM
Not really, somebody did show you a nice 318is but then somebody stole it........

...Um yeah it was ruined:D I apologize on my part but I couldn't help see the false statements about motorsport 318's:D

You forgot the M42 is VERY similar to the S14.

b-dawgGTA
02-24-2009, 10:11 PM
i accept your apology lol. im not buyin one for a track car soo i dont mind that the 325 could beat it on the track

Wannabe
02-24-2009, 10:48 PM
I actually saw the e30 on the back of a tow truck comming south down the 400..and I bet it was it.. it was backed on the flatbed!

SamE30e
02-24-2009, 11:07 PM
Yep, that was it.

richie_s999
02-25-2009, 12:44 AM
its funny how some people like to twist what you say, never said I was a guru of any sort on E30's. I do know about the car I have, the M42 was the new generation motor when it came out, and since mine has 330000km on it, without a timing chain failure, how can you trash it. I may be wrong but isn't similar to the M50 design?
I never said it was better then the motor in the 325, and am a fan of any E30. I do beleive most people don't understand the 318is car and what it was, hopefully I have the time to get my motor built for summer so others can see what the car can do.
the trendy thing to do is turbo 6 cyl motors right now, its a reliable cheap was to get power in an E30. Building a M42 up is a bit more costly and involved, but whenits done right the car will be just as quick. I am not overly familar with the M3 motor, but the 318is has always been refered to a junior M3, and has similar handling caracteristics compaired to the 6cyl cars. Lets all just enjoy all the different E30's they are all capible cars, I think I maybe the only one on here building 318is up to a stroker motor and looking to supercharge it, my goals with my car are a dailydriver, which can be taken to the track and had fun with.

e30_kid89
02-25-2009, 01:45 AM
^^^
a BIT more costly? JUST as fast a BOOSTED m20??

I did own a 318is myself as my first E30 and yes i did look into upgrades for the dear m42 before swapping. The aftermarket is VERY small and expensive and I will go as far to say a waste of money when you could of gotten a LOT more for the $$$ by going down other routes. I used to say "no I don't care if i spend more 4cyl ftwz" but the more i looked at it the more better it was to just leave it alone and swap it out for something much better.

-A DASC kit = fast as STOCK m50 = loose

-Metric Mechanic 2.0/2.1L "crate" motor = $7kCDN = a bit over 175bhp for the regular on the 205bhp for the rallly version of their m42 = loose. LOW mileage s52 OBD1 swap for 3/4 of the price and laugh at the raw torque and smooth power.

-Turbo/SC = 250-275bhp MAX without lowering compression, new internals etc. = same or less $$$$ you could have a m20 boosted making that at the wheels :D

-Metric mechanic "built" m42/44 for boost = 9kCND....MOTOR alone. 300 - 350bhp MAX turbo'd or S/C'd. Doing a proper turbo setup will run you another 3 - 4k at least....Wow I'm not gonna add that one up:D throw in another grand or so for tuning:(

I'm curious to know about your "1.9L" build. please share details.

Also those numbers for the MM motors since they are essentially race motors, they make those figures at 7k and make most of their power for 4.3k to redline.....A sure blast for a track car no doubt but where and how often will you be up there DD'ing your car?

Last thing, Don't EVER put cheap+reliable+turbo together. That's impossible.

If you really like your m42 that much and are willing to throw down the coin thats great. Your car will be unique since that's not done too often around deze parts.

richie_s999
02-25-2009, 03:26 AM
^^^
a BIT more costly? JUST as fast a BOOSTED m20??

I did own a 318is myself as my first E30 and yes i did look into upgrades for the dear m42 before swapping. The aftermarket is VERY small and expensive and I will go as far to say a waste of money when you could of gotten a LOT more for the $$$ by going down other routes. I used to say "no I don't care if i spend more 4cyl ftwz" but the more i looked at it the more better it was to just leave it alone and swap it out for something much better.

-A DASC kit = fast as STOCK m50 = loose

-Metric Mechanic 2.0/2.1L "crate" motor = $7kCDN = a bit over 175bhp for the regular on the 205bhp for the rallly version of their m42 = loose. LOW mileage s52 OBD1 swap for 3/4 of the price and laugh at the raw torque and smooth power.

-Turbo/SC = 250-275bhp MAX without lowering compression, new internals etc. = same or less $$$$ you could have a m20 boosted making that at the wheels :D

-Metric mechanic "built" m42/44 for boost = 9kCND....MOTOR alone. 300 - 350bhp MAX turbo'd or S/C'd. Doing a proper turbo setup will run you another 3 - 4k at least....Wow I'm not gonna add that one up:D throw in another grand or so for tuning:(

I'm curious to know about your "1.9L" build. please share details.

Also those numbers for the MM motors since they are essentially race motors, they make those figures at 7k and make most of their power for 4.3k to redline.....A sure blast for a track car no doubt but where and how often will you be up there DD'ing your car?

Last thing, Don't EVER put cheap+reliable+turbo together. That's impossible.

If you really like your m42 that much and are willing to throw down the coin thats great. Your car will be unique since that's not done too often around deze parts.

pm sent, can't let the whole cat outa the bag, wouldn;t be fun. read what you wrote, how much cheaper is dropping a turbo on a m20 then building up a m42??????? And doing a proper build on a turbo can be reliable, unfortuantly since fast and furious, everyone thinks they can just drop on a turbo and be a king, sadly not the case. Oh and anything over 250hp in a car that weight is brought down to under 2500lbs without proper downforce is stupid and dangerous, really stupid for the street in the hands of someone who can't handle it to.

Fel
02-25-2009, 11:26 AM
Just wow at this thread....


Hey b-dawg.... welcome to Max. :D

SamE30e
02-25-2009, 12:06 PM
There is a couple M42 strokers you could do, theres a 1.9L and a 2.1L. The 1.9L uses the M44 crank.

The 2.1L uses M47 crank and Euro S50 pistons with a +2mm overbore. It would make some good power but in my opinion not worth it. I looked at it when I got my first 318is. In my opinion the best thing to do is a swap, best bang for buck and the M50/2 and S50/2 has a pretty big aftermarket support and makes a E30 bat shit fast.

Turbo M20 or S50 FTW

Here the S42 that might be the only thing that would ever be comparable to a S14

http://i39.tinypic.com/2d9ra5d.jpg

richie_s999
02-25-2009, 12:25 PM
There is a couple M42 strokers you could do, theres a 1.9L and a 2.1L. The 1.9L uses the M44 crank.

The 2.1L uses M47 crank and Euro S50 pistons with a +2mm overbore. It would make some good power but in my opinion not worth it. I looked at it when I got my first 318is. In my opinion the best thing to do is a swap, best bang for buck and the M50/2 and S50/2 has a pretty big aftermarket support and makes a E30 bat shit fast.

Turbo M20 or S50 FTW

Here the S42 that might be the only thing that would ever be comparable to a S14

http://i39.tinypic.com/2d9ra5d.jpg



I agree with you its the best bang for buck, to go with a 6cyl, I have said thast over and over, its cheaper, and eaisier.

"Quick and easy is how you bake a cake, not build a crimial orginazation....*th-up* 1st batman quote"

anyway I am going for a build that keeps the car true to its nature, and to me its a challange and learning experence to build up the M42. I like the idea of going light weight, with approprate power. I keep hearing about 400hp plus cars, its just not needed. Remember I am building a fun daily driver that I can take to the track, I am currently getting 700plus km on 50L of gas(premium reguired in the 318is) its a project with a plan and I am working at as I can.

b-dawgGTA
02-25-2009, 05:01 PM
not trying to encourage another 4 vs 6. but does the 325 require premium gas? i know the 318is does (m42)

Wannabe
02-25-2009, 05:08 PM
the 325 does not require premium

SamE30e
02-25-2009, 05:26 PM
the 325 does not require premium

And still makes more power and actually makes torque.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 12:59 AM
not trying to encourage another 4 vs 6. but does the 325 require premium gas? i know the 318is does (m42)

the reason it uses premium is Europes gas quality is way above our in North America, I think there low grade is something like 97 octane. Just about any car from europe made after 1990 runs on what we call premium. Our regular is actually higher then states regular, their mid grade is our regular.

Ocatne rating required by a motor has nothing to do with engine design, the computer program can be changed to run on higher octane, most 6cyl that have been chipped will also require premium also.

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 02:34 AM
the reason it uses premium is Europes gas quality is way above our in North America, I think there low grade is something like 97 octane. Just about any car from europe made after 1990 runs on what we call premium. Our regular is actually higher then states regular, their mid grade is our regular.

Ocatne rating required by a motor has nothing to do with engine design, the computer program can be changed to run on higher octane, most 6cyl that have been chipped will also require premium also.


WRONG!

The M42 is a high compression engine, it needs high octane fuel to prevent detonation/ pinging.

It's like saying hondas need premium because Japan has better gas then us.

The reason the 6 cylinders need premium after they're chipped is because most chips advance the timing, which also, with lower octane gas, would be more prone to detonation.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 03:48 AM
WRONG!

The M42 is a high compression engine, it needs high octane fuel to prevent detonation/ pinging.

It's like saying hondas need premium because Japan has better gas then us.

The reason the 6 cylinders need premium after they're chipped is because most chips advance the timing, which also, with lower octane gas, would be more prone to detonation.

shit man, is there one BMW that doesn't have that litlle "premium gas" sticker on it since the E30 was retired? They designed the motor to reflect the quality of gas they have. You can adjust the cams in the M42 not to ping and run regular gas, but why would you, its all about the timing just like you said. I would take a safe guess that the Euro 6cyl are programed in their computer to run premium too. As for Honda's ( I hate using them as a compairison cause they are not in BMW leage) They have totally different emmisions laws in Japan, and the one's here in north America are different then the ones there.
Its like saying Europe has better gas then us to they design the cars they drive there to use good gas and follow their emissions rules.

its like:Pits like:Pits like:P
dentonation is what this thread needs, hey OP someone is selling a 318is, its an inferior car to mine, but I buy it anyways and start a thread about how great it is, my name is Sam, its like I punked someone who would have actually been happy with the car cause I can. Watch me do it. Now I am going to be God almighty with my school girl kilt plaid sport seats. :moon:

T.Dot_E30
02-26-2009, 06:39 AM
the reason it uses premium is Europes gas quality is way above our in North America, I think there low grade is something like 97 octane.

Rich,

European countries measure octane ratings differently. Their "low grade" 92 is actually the same as our "low" grade 87.

In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the 'headline' octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON: but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the "roaD Octane Number" or DON, or (R+M)/2. Because of the 10 point difference noted above this means that the octane in the United States will be about 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "normal" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 92 in Europe.



http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kb.php?aid=124

lvan
02-26-2009, 07:17 AM
^ I think so too. It's rated differently. Also I think M20 (I) AND E use regular 87?

Duct_Taper
02-26-2009, 07:48 AM
Yep. As far as I know, the M20 and M30 were the last BMW engines to run on regular gas - everything since (M42, M50/52, M60, etc etc) all require premium.

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 07:56 AM
hey OP someone is selling a 318is, its an inferior car to mine, but I buy it anyways and start a thread about how great it is, my name is Sam, its like I punked someone who would have actually been happy with the car cause I can. Watch me do it. Now I am going to be God almighty with my school girl kilt plaid sport seats. :moon:

He stated he wasn't going to buy it, and 4 other people off Max called before me, so I didn't "punk" it.


And I'm sorry we can't all "Motorsport 318's" like you Richie.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 09:22 AM
He stated he wasn't going to buy it, and 4 other people off Max called before me, so I didn't "punk" it.


And I'm sorry we can't all "Motorsport 318's" like you Richie.

where you getting this "motorsprt 318's" stuff??? You talking about the shit heads from south of the boarder on RV3 thing? Ya actually you probley fit right in on that site. Some people have a list of what others say is the way to build a car and anyone who's car is not done to that list is wrong. I find that site is like that. Its an American site and thats all I need to say.

You may want to check out M42 club, since I am sure they may be able to help you from blowing up another one. Very global and people are decent on there.

Maybe I should do my own build thread, so people can see where the car started and is at now, its far from done, it'll probley never be done cause as soon as I finish something I start something else.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 09:24 AM
Well I'm going to barrie tonight. I could be an asshole and buy this, then flip it.

And it's in better condition then my 318 lol

you said it you could be an asshole.... :D

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 09:29 AM
:Dhey Sam I have a 325i I am picking up Saturday you interested in the Motor and Tranny for the whitecar?:D

No honestly With how addiment you are on how the 6 cly's are better I figure you'll be swapping it out so you interested in a decent M20?

Can be heard running too:cool:*angel* K that was a dig :D

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 09:43 AM
where you getting this "motorsprt 318's" stuff??? You talking about the shit heads from south of the boarder on RV3 thing? Ya actually you probley fit right in on that site. Some people have a list of what others say is the way to build a car and anyone who's car is not done to that list is wrong. I find that site is like that. Its an American site and thats all I need to say.

You may want to check out M42 club, since I am sure they may be able to help you from blowing up another one. Very global and people are decent on there.[ QUOTE]

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=127741

And M42 doesn't have 1/16th the people or knowledge that R3v does. Ask anyone, if you can survive on r3v you can learn all you need to ever know.

:Dhey Sam I have a 325i I am picking up Saturday you interested in the Motor and Tranny for the whitecar?:D

I can't wait till you blow the M42 up from not doing the tensioners or guides. I needed a car cause my 325 wasn't cutting it, so I needed my 318 and hadn't done the timing parts yet.

No honestly With how addiment you are on how the 6 cly's are better I figure you'll be swapping it out so you interested in a decent M20?

Can be heard running too:cool:*angel* K that was a dig :D

If I was building a track car and had the money it's be a S14. Happy?

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 10:12 AM
You may want to check out M42 club, since I am sure they may be able to help you from blowing up another one. Very global and people are decent on there.[ QUOTE]

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=127741

And M42 doesn't have 1/16th the people or knowledge that R3v does. Ask anyone, if you can survive on r3v you can learn all you need to ever know.



If I was building a track car and had the money it's be a S14. Happy?

wow your really trying hard, I was totally done with that site cause of how rude and ignorant the people are on there, thats why I like Max other then a few people who are all about themselfs, its got some really good people on here. Yes they have more memebers then M42, thats cause M42 is speciffic to the 4cyl crowd, which is smaller. I can't beleive your posting a link to that but I am sure it will show I hold my own, and just how ignorant people can be...and that I am on my way to building a decent car the way I want to build it....oh and here is whaqt the car looked like 12 months ago, and where it was at b4 the snow hit. unfortuanlly I didn't have time to get paint on it and finish linning up the front end, but at least it runs.

So your gonna drive a car with an m42 after shitting all over it eh...nice let us know when you have a car that runs LOL give it a rest dude, I call a truce , ok

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 10:16 AM
R3v is the most informative site for E30's everyone knows it, you can't just jump in claiming to know shit or talk shit, they'll rip you apart.

It'll be ready, come to the opening cruise and we'll settle the dispute, 4 cylinder vs 6.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 10:22 AM
i will be at the spring cruise, to cruise, the stroker won't be ready till mid summer. I don't race on the street, I need my licence to get to work cause I have a morgage to pay. Hopefully my motor will be ready for bimmercruise in the fall, we can have a friendly lapp or 2 there, not on the street.

I held my own on rv3 they are a bunch of guys with bigger ego's then balls, they may know there shit but the are asses. I posted a thread in the rides sections and someone tried trashing it, what ever, opions are like asshole, some of us just have bigger mouths. Its funny cause everyone on there that was Canadian was cool, and I am sorry but its not the best E30 site out there, and the membership sucks.

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 12:21 PM
Alright, I'll keep my stock suspension on. Or I'll run someone with a 318 to show you the apocolypse coming.

richie_s999
02-26-2009, 12:43 PM
Alright, I'll keep my stock suspension on. Or I'll run someone with a 318 to show you the apocolypse coming.

LOL dude you sound like a pro wrestler OH YA HERE COMES THE APOCOLYPSE OH YA FEEL THE THUNDER OF MY MIGHTY 6CYL SWAP

OH YA :D:D:D:D:D:D


just enjoy your cars, btw you got a good deal on the white one, but honestly trade the seats and go leather, black out the interior on it and it would look alot better.

SamE30e
02-26-2009, 02:44 PM
I am a pro wrestler. If you seriously think that a M42 has a chance against a M50 swap, you're insane.

Plaid FTW.

Fel
02-26-2009, 04:43 PM
This thing just keeps getting better....

Oh and for the record, BMWs needing premium fuel has nothing to do with the fact that they are made in Germany... it has everything to do with engine design.

b-dawgGTA
02-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Does Surviver Man do a show on surviving on the net? i plan on heading to r3v soon.?

Fel
02-26-2009, 06:29 PM
Does Surviver Man do a show on surviving on the net? i plan on heading to r3v soon.?

Haha... just bring a helmet. They can be a tough bunch, and they have this odd fascination with cocks, but for the most part they know their shit and will help you with any situation.

e30_kid89
02-26-2009, 07:36 PM
PS. M50s can actually take mid-grade :P

Fel
02-27-2009, 09:36 AM
PS. M50s can actually take mid-grade :P

Yes, M50 is rated for 89.

lvan
02-27-2009, 09:47 AM
How about M52? I guess 91 at least. Or lets say my car is rated to run 91, what would happen if I put 94 once in a while just to test it.

b-dawgGTA
02-27-2009, 04:09 PM
ps open to m20 offers too, was just hopin for a nice 318iisss

SamE30e
02-27-2009, 04:15 PM
ps open to m20 offers too, was just hopin for a nice 318iisss

You might be able to buy the white 318 off me if the price is right.

b-dawgGTA
02-27-2009, 04:24 PM
haha how much also does it run now

E30M42cab
02-27-2009, 06:22 PM
Alright, I'll keep my stock suspension on. Or I'll run someone with a 318 to show you the apocolypse coming.

You're mine, Bitch!! *th-up* My M42 will send your M50 away with it's tail between it's legs!!*shiner*

SamE30e
02-27-2009, 08:35 PM
You're mine, Bitch!! *th-up* My M42 will send your M50 away with it's tail between it's legs!!*shiner*

Oh shit...

Oh wait I forgot 4cylinder > 6 cylinder

P.S I got a nice hookup on amsoil stuff :)

E30M42cab
03-01-2009, 03:43 PM
^^ I need some diff gear oil if you can hook me up with some of that? (enough for three e30's)

SamE30e
03-01-2009, 05:41 PM
I got Amsoil Severe Gear for I think 14$ a quart.

I should be able to swing something.

325isStephen
03-01-2009, 06:26 PM
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/cto/1055949942.html

Sorry to anyone that was eyeing it, but I don't think that will sell too quick anyways.

Steve

SamE30e
03-01-2009, 07:43 PM
Probably pretty clean.

325isStephen
03-01-2009, 07:44 PM
Thats what I was thinking, for that money they obviously think its perfect, and if it is then could be worth it to the right person.

Steve

SamE30e
03-01-2009, 08:02 PM
But no one has 4900$ to spend on an e30 lol.

Hell, i'm looking for a dirt bike to trade for my white 318.

b-dawgGTA
03-01-2009, 09:29 PM
damn 5k for a 318

E30M42cab
03-02-2009, 07:01 PM
I just called about it... someone has already left a deposite. The add only went up yesterday!

xsd_crew
03-02-2009, 07:08 PM
That will be me!!!
New to this game, but will keep you chaps updated.
Wish me luck.

Fel
03-02-2009, 08:09 PM
^^bahaha... this thread keeps getting better. Anyone else want to find a 318 on kijiji so one of us will buy it?

richie_s999
03-02-2009, 08:10 PM
next time someone finds one send a pm to the OP that way no one else buys it :)

SamE30e
03-02-2009, 09:11 PM
The OP should just look himself. We're all rats and will steal that shit.

xsd_crew
03-02-2009, 09:36 PM
Calm down Chaps
No need to get all worked up about nothing.
I called for the car some 20mins after it was posted.
Even then someone was there at 12pm today a good 3 hrs before me.
He hesitated and didn't commit.
As a word of caution I had a bid on a 91 325 that is not quite done!!
Who knows maybe if I get it!!! I'll let you guys figure out the rest???

SamE30e
03-02-2009, 09:40 PM
No one's getting hostile. Just two cars have been posted in this thread and 2 of them sold. One of them was purchased by me.

b-dawgGTA
03-02-2009, 10:39 PM
one wasn't what i wanted and the other was out of my price range. im not going to rush out and buy the first one i see

b-dawgGTA
03-04-2009, 04:00 PM
i actually found a car i might buy, just a question for you guys.
it is a rebuilt and ported 325. its coming as is, will i have an issue with the etest? i was told no but just asking you guys

b-dawgGTA
03-04-2009, 04:13 PM
Rebuilt & ported cylinder head 5 angle valve job approx. 10,000KM ago. Non stretch head bolts, new timing belt, water pump, coolant, tune-up, 258cc injectors, 2 1/2" stainless steel mandrel bend exhaust system with hi-flow cat.

thats what it has

PinkieMoscow
03-04-2009, 04:41 PM
^Sorry I know the one you're talking about I just picked it up. Passed etest and everything. jk jk

T.Dot_E30
03-04-2009, 04:44 PM
Sounds like the turbo car that was for sale on max a while ago. Forgot the guys name, maybe they took the turbo off and are just selling the car now.

b-dawgGTA
03-04-2009, 11:08 PM
haha i was gonna say its gonna already. and well it seems that a tranny swap is just stupid. i might as well just to a m50 swap bahaha stupid auto

xsd_crew
03-04-2009, 11:31 PM
Hey guys,
Picked up the new addition and as a rule always change all fluids
first,no matter what the previous owner says - for my record.
Can you tell me what Brand oil I should get and numbers(weight and volume) to go with as far as the Engine Tranny and Diff go?Also what filter.
On my Supra I use Mobile 1 syntethic only!!
I'm sure the Bmw has a similar preference
Thanks