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325vert
02-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Does anyone know if itís possible to put in a 540 engine in a 325.

That would be some cool ride - 282hp in a small car like that would be awesome. Probably make me :puke: from all the torque.
(sorry, but I've always wanted to use that smile).

Let me know

ShortShifter
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Yes it is possible. And Fil has one for sale right now.

Manimillion
02-12-2009, 10:14 PM
I think your thread should say, all that torque from the v8 in the smaller car would be fun ;)

Eurostyle
02-12-2009, 10:28 PM
Yes it does fit, with a lot of work!

P.S, all V8's i had are now sold! :D

rider-.
02-12-2009, 10:32 PM
haha im working on this swap right now actually its alot of work but should be worth it in the end definatly doing some engine work before we put it in.. but i plan to start a build thread soon

Eurostyle
02-12-2009, 10:43 PM
haha im working on this swap right now actually its alot of work but should be worth it in the end definatly doing some engine work before we put it in.. but i plan to start a build thread soon

E30 or E36???

rider-.
02-13-2009, 02:36 AM
e36

rider-.
02-13-2009, 02:47 AM
thats why i need a hookup on that tranny hahahha

Trouble65
02-13-2009, 07:14 AM
Install a Chevy v8 from a Corvette. You will get more power, easier on upgrades and a lot easier on the pocket book when it coes to up keep.

rider-.
02-13-2009, 09:05 AM
no thanks, id rather keep a german engine in my german car theres no need to ruin a beautiful thing

Trouble65
02-13-2009, 09:09 AM
no thanks, id rather keep a german engine in my german car theres no need to ruin a beautiful thing

If it was an "M" I would have to agree.

However if you want power there is nothing wrong with a Chevy V8

98Dinan3
02-13-2009, 11:40 AM
^^^ I agree 100%. An LSx drivetrain is about the best option going, for a bunch of reasons. It's cheap, reliable, makes a ton of power, has a six speed, it's been done before by a bunch of guys, you can buy the Vorschlag kit to ease the swap, etc... The engine is all-aluminum, and weighs a little less than the M/S5x motors. It also sits a bit lower, and further back, which is good for handling.

bmwm5lover
02-13-2009, 11:45 AM
BMW engines belong in BMW's. American engines Belong in America cars.

Eurostyle
02-13-2009, 11:54 AM
BMW engines belong in BMW's. American engines Belong in America cars.

But you loved that Rover with the M5 motor!!!!:P

bmwm5lover
02-13-2009, 02:45 PM
But you loved that Rover with the M5 motor!!!!:P

Yes, yes I did!
*shiner*

Manimillion
02-13-2009, 02:45 PM
haha im working on this swap right now actually its alot of work but should be worth it in the end definatly doing some engine work before we put it in.. but i plan to start a build thread soon

Waiting to see your build thread!

325vert
02-13-2009, 07:10 PM
Yes it is possible. And Fil has one for sale right now.

What would is cost to do something like this? And lets say i was able to pick up a used engine for $1,000 to $1,500.

325vert
02-13-2009, 07:12 PM
By the way, this is the quickest mass response I've seen on a new tread.

I'm glad to see it was a worth while question .

rider-.
02-13-2009, 07:43 PM
you need alot more then an engine.. so u have ur 1000$ engine.. .another 1000$ atleast for a tranny... so ur up at 2000 right there.. .then u gotta get mounts fabricated... u gotta the oilpan so the engine can sit low...all this custom fab should cost quite a bit unless u know the right people... u should run a dry sump with this setup which costs atleast 800$ for a proper setup.. u gotta get custom headers.... and more.. in the end its a pretty stupid decision to put this motor in.. but im gunna do it anyways... because l'll get all the girls.. ALSO i forgot to mention if your not going to be doing the work yourself.. this is gunna cost u a reduculous amount of money,....

325vert
02-13-2009, 08:07 PM
you need alot more then an engine.. so u have ur 1000$ engine.. .another 1000$ atleast for a tranny... so ur up at 2000 right there.. .then u gotta get mounts fabricated... u gotta the oilpan so the engine can sit low...all this custom fab should cost quite a bit unless u know the right people... u should run a dry sump with this setup which costs atleast 800$ for a proper setup.. u gotta get custom headers.... and more.. in the end its a pretty stupid decision to put this motor in.. but im gunna do it anyways... because l'll get all the girls.. ALSO i forgot to mention if your not going to be doing the work yourself.. this is gunna cost u a reduculous amount of money,....

Fortunately Iím married and girls no longer enter my decision making process, unless itís the wife*love*, but I can assure you they could careless if it was a v6 or v8, 150hp or 300hp*sleep*. It that case you may have better luck spending your money on a kit, rims, and nice paint job. :P

That said, Iíve heard that cost per HP for this swap is really not worth it, although it would be a really cool ride, as it would be one of the only BMW convertibles with potentiail for more than 300hp. A much cheaper alternative would be to swap in an M3 engine, straight bolt in, but 240 vs 282 doesnít seem as impressive.

rider-.
02-13-2009, 08:32 PM
hahah im not doing it for woman... i just think its a cool project.. theres no replacement for displacement ;)

98Dinan3
02-13-2009, 09:52 PM
Fortunately Iím married and girls no longer enter my decision making process, unless itís the wife*love*, but I can assure you they could careless if it was a v6 or v8, 150hp or 300hp*sleep*. It that case you may have better luck spending your money on a kit, rims, and nice paint job. :P

That said, Iíve heard that cost per HP for this swap is really not worth it, although it would be a really cool ride, as it would be one of the only BMW convertibles with potentiail for more than 300hp. A much cheaper alternative would be to swap in an M3 engine, straight bolt in, but 240 vs 282 doesnít seem as impressive.


400 to the rear wheels is pretty easy with the LSx motors. Just some minor bolt-ons and a little tuning and you're there... Is that impressive?

Eurostyle
02-13-2009, 10:27 PM
From what i know, you also have to cut the strut towers, because the V8 wont fit between...I will try this out myself tomorrow, as i have an M62 and empty E36 engine bay!!! :D

Manimillion
02-14-2009, 02:48 AM
From what i know, you also have to cut the strut towers, because the V8 wont fit between...I will try this out myself tomorrow, as i have an M62 and empty E36 engine bay!!! :D

http://v8.webkitchen.net/images/alpina/b8eng.jpg

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/attachments/e36-m3/30567d1130668873-need-m60-6speed-e36-swap-worldwide-count-b8e36_3.jpg

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/alpinaboard-com-bmw-alpina-discussion/62330d1207964216-bmw-alpina-b8-4-6-cabrio-sale-33000-km-4831_27.jpg

Judging from those pictures, it seems that they do fit without cutting the strut towers.

rider-.
02-14-2009, 03:28 AM
yup no strut tower cutting reqd

"400 to the rear wheels is pretty easy with the LSx motors. Just some minor bolt-ons and a little tuning and you're there... Is that impressive?"

not at all... bmw in bmw....

ImolaZHP
02-14-2009, 01:30 PM
the 4.4L engine would be sweet in a 3-series, hearing a v8 exhaust coming from it:eek: *love*
and with more torque than the M3!!

it's also unique...Do it!!

Eurostyle
02-14-2009, 08:21 PM
http://v8.webkitchen.net/images/alpina/b8eng.jpg

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/attachments/e36-m3/30567d1130668873-need-m60-6speed-e36-swap-worldwide-count-b8e36_3.jpg

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/alpinaboard-com-bmw-alpina-discussion/62330d1207964216-bmw-alpina-b8-4-6-cabrio-sale-33000-km-4831_27.jpg

Judging from those pictures, it seems that they do fit without cutting the strut towers.


Keep in mind that the frame rails stick out WAY more then the strut towers, and we cant see that in the pics....I did a few measurments today, its very close...but didnt have time try the engine itself...

craz azn
02-14-2009, 08:56 PM
If anything would be a bit of an issue, its the driver side exhaust manifold and the steering linkage being a problem. I would question the oil pan too, but thats a smaller problem. Its a popular swap in Europe. Another version of this swap was done in Europe by a tuner of the name H&H Motorsport. Search that for some pics/ideas.

e30blue
02-16-2009, 05:54 PM
has anyone put an American v8 in an e30...would love to see that

njansenv
02-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Yes. An LS1 has been put into an e30. It's a monster.
Every once and a while I contemplate the evil that a turbo 5.3 would be in an e30 chassis.
If I ever need to replace the motor in my M3, you can bet your ass it'll be with an LS1 or LS2.

e30blue
02-16-2009, 10:07 PM
^^^ do u have a link or any pics of this?

BMW BMXer
02-16-2009, 10:44 PM
I'm all im for Chev swaps in BMWS. Its cost and power effective, and upsets people.

http://wp1016621.wp027.webpack.hosteurope.de/fotost/f01420/06.jpg

LS1 meet e30 "- engine is corvette V8 minaro 421 bhp 406 lbt torque 320 bhp at 1500 rpm"

rider-.
02-16-2009, 10:52 PM
i used to think you were cool dave

BMW BMXer
02-17-2009, 07:04 AM
i used to think you were cool dave

Ha. I have always thought this way purists be damned. I could send you links upon links of American power plants in non American cars.

m60e30
02-17-2009, 07:59 AM
im also doing this swap right now, it actually has been easy. people talk about all this cutting and modifying of everything, but i think those people have never done it. i have a 95 540 motor with a 5 speed gearbox. im doing an e30, but e36 its quite similar.
get the driver side manifold from an X5, and modify it to get around the steering. i just made the right side manifold.
if you dont have access to welding/fabrication shop to do stuff yourself, it could add up.

TNation
02-17-2009, 11:11 AM
The best swap would be an E39 M5 engine into an E36 /drools

I once saw a 2JZ swap into an E36 as well, the thing was pushing a lowly 14-16PSI @ 487 hp w/ 420 tq. Did the 1/4 in 11 flat.

Manimillion
02-17-2009, 11:49 AM
The best swap would be an E39 M5 engine into an E36 /drools

I once saw a 2JZ swap into an E36 as well, the thing was pushing a lowly 14-16PSI @ 487 hp w/ 420 tq. Did the 1/4 in 11 flat.

http://www.bimmerwerkz.com/forum/attachments/3-series-e36/9839d1089232909-m5-s62-e36-img_0098.jpg