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2K6E60
02-01-2009, 09:34 PM
I wish my lease was up,

For sh!ts and giggles i went into my local lexus dealer here in Brampton to check out the ISF and the IS350. MSRP on the ISF is 65K, right off the bat they offered me the car for 58K after some stiff negotiation I managed to squeeze them for an additional 6K.

The car is a 2008 ISF Black on White Leather (No Navi system) otherwise fully loaded. 52K, now im thinking to myself shit this is a deal and a half. I took the demo out for a boot and the thing is a monster, light years over and above any other Lexus i have driven.

Heres the Kicker - current finance rate is 3.2% upto 48 Months, with multiple security deposits (max 4500) I can get that interest rate down to 2%.

Im just stuck in my lease, i will take a hit on it (around 5-6K) so its not worth it for me. But wow the deal is smokin.*smoke* Im considering it pending a few other things. But, i was surprised to see the type of deals these dealers are offering.

Wannabe
02-01-2009, 09:58 PM
Lexus has a $7000 cash purchase credit on that car right now..

propr'one
02-01-2009, 10:04 PM
^^that's probably why they offered him 58 (65-7=58)

Wannabe
02-01-2009, 10:06 PM
haha I know, hense why i said it. Dealers will throw you a cash price because its cheaper, but when you try and finance/lease they'll switch it

2K6E60
02-01-2009, 10:22 PM
I knew they were offering the manufacture to dealer incentive after reading on the various forums. But I still managed to get an additional 6K off the asking price. I may be able to switch over from my current car, as I have a 3.9% finance rate on my current vehicle. the savings im getting from switching over to the lesser finance rate will help mitigate some of the difference. But i will still be out around 3-4K. Which is not totally unreasonable.

Wannabe i heard in the US, dealers were clearing these out for 49K out the door?

Wannabe
02-02-2009, 01:19 AM
I just go to school here for cars...I have no idea what dealers are selling for... I'm from barrie.

rendered
02-02-2009, 02:57 AM
I can buy a 2008 IS F with about 2000 miles or less for $44,000 U.S give or take. Thats not including duties, dealer auction fees, and other border costs.

So after the currency exchange even at $44,000 USD, you're already at $54,121 CAD DEALER COST!!

For a Canadian dealer buying from the States, ussually there's some huge discounts to be had, but in this case, I just wanted to illustrate how amazing of a price you got for this IS-F at $52K!!!

If you really want this car, dump your BMW and go for this asap!

Northwest Lexus right?

2K6E60
02-02-2009, 07:50 AM
^^^ Yes Sir ^^^

My father had purchased 2 Lexus' from there before, Francesco the owners son was the guy that offered me the deal.

Im going to find out the exact buy out on my car today. PS: I will be getting out of my RX8 lease the E60 will stay.

slemmer
02-02-2009, 09:38 AM
Try offloading your lease to places like leasebusters.com

TNation
02-02-2009, 12:10 PM
what a ****ing deal
man i love that car, its unreal
you can get even more discounts as well, from free oil changes for two years to Gold cleanings twice a year if you tell them you're also considering the M3 and BMW offered to include both of those if you bought the M3
cancel your lease, get into it haha. Black on white is the HOTTEST combo for it too, haha soo sickk

Understated
02-02-2009, 08:36 PM
Northwest has been belting out these F's for GREAT prices for a while now....I know they let a Black one go for 55 back in nov/dec!

It's a good time to be buying a performance/luxury car cash these days.

rodo
02-02-2009, 08:48 PM
it's a good time to be buying ANYTHING cash these days, watches, airplanes, etc.

propr'one
02-02-2009, 10:17 PM
rodo buy me a mustang.

rodo
02-02-2009, 10:41 PM
give me 4M and I'll find you a nice one

maroli
02-03-2009, 11:35 AM
the ISF is great....but the M3 is better. I'd be driving an ISF thinking I were the man, but in the back of my head, the high specific output v8 of the M3 would be calling.

TNation
02-03-2009, 01:24 PM
the ISF is great....but the M3 is better. I'd be driving an ISF thinking I were the man, but in the back of my head, the high specific output v8 of the M3 would be calling.

Is it worth $10k more though, is the question.

rodo
02-03-2009, 01:56 PM
did u inquire about leasing? What deals is bmw offering? what about the c63?

lvan
02-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Is it worth $10k more though, is the question.

Considering how M cars hold the resale value, You get back the extra on what you paid. On top of that, we have not seen jap car that can beat M car in resale pricing. Just like those that liked better 330ZHP/M3, but had to settle down for the G35 or TL/Z350. The same song has been playing since 1970s.
My honest opinion.

M3ti Compact
02-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I highly doubt you can make back $10g's on resale.

2K6E60
02-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Im sure the M3 is quicker, but really that doesnt bother me. If i were to worry about about stuff like that I will never be happy with what ever i owned.

I never looked into the new M3 because of the price, its quite a bit more compared to the IS F. I was looking into the IS350 but for a few grand more im getting the ISF. I think i may have a deal worked out. Will keep you guys posted.

Kris

maroli
02-03-2009, 09:11 PM
actually, its not really quicker. I mean, in a straight line I'd guess its about even. Around a track, its quicker of course but I doubt you'd track your new toy :)

maybe you should consider a demo M3? For me it really comes down to sacrificing a few months of newness for a car that will make you feel better about it.

dtthiaga
02-03-2009, 10:02 PM
Considering how M cars hold the resale value, You get back the extra on what you paid. On top of that, we have not seen jap car that can beat M car in resale pricing. Just like those that liked better 330ZHP/M3, but had to settle down for the G35 or TL/Z350. The same song has been playing since 1970s.
My honest opinion.

I really don't think it's hard to beat the resale value of BMW's these days.
Lexus has reliability on it's side, which is a huge factor for resale value.

Recent Auction Run.

2006 IS350 Auto 49K $29,000
2006 IS350 Auto 112K $23,500

2006 330I Auto 108K $16,500
2006 330I Auto 50K $20,000
2006 330I Auto 53K $22,500

2005 M3 44K $30,000
2005 M3 59K $30,000
(No 06's ran through)


The M3 though, has that exclusivity and semi-rarity factor. Itís probably the only 3 Series that would be a candidate for a collector car status in years to come. ISF being a special model, and a Lexus, will probably do extremely well in the resale market.

lvan
02-04-2009, 12:35 AM
^ I was commenting on M cars. Also 2006 330 is E90, and I still have not seen E90 for that low. The M3s that you listed are priced too low when You compare it to autotrader and local ads.

I agree that some lexus models do quite well. IMHO, I think LS is killing 7 series in anyway.

rodo
02-04-2009, 01:09 AM
those are probably auction prices

rendered
02-04-2009, 01:55 AM
it's a tough call even for me. I think I'd lean towards the 2008 M3 coupe though. If you need 4 doors go M3 sedan.

The IS F is a beautiful option for a sedan as well. Too bad they didn't offer AWD option.

For the money you're spending I found 2007 Audi RS4's for $45k retail from a fairly close US dealer. It's White exterior, Navi, 6spd, and AWD. I got into an online bidding war with the dealership that paid too much for it but they ended outbidding me at the last second. Anyways, I tracked the car to this dealer and they paid $38k. I didn't want it that bad and I will find another white one for my personal car soon, every other colour RS4 is
selling from $30k to $34k (auctions). This would also be another great sedan alternative for you IMO.

Or BMW financial are offering 1% finance rates for 2008 335i sedans? You could probably get something like this and save alot of money!

M3ti Compact
02-04-2009, 02:10 AM
I've driven the ISF and M3 before. If I was looking for a car with an automatic, hands down the ISF will be the only car to consider. This car's automatic is the best ive ever had the pleasure of driving, and I will dare say, the best automatic on the market today. I'm talking about ultra quick upshifts, and similarly fast auto-throttle-blipped downshifts, and to top it off, it's got 8 speeds.

But truth be told, from a practical point of view, cars with as much power as the ISF/M3 has with a manual trans are just way to core for everyday commuter use. Since the M3 has no SMG, for my daily commute up and down the DVP during rush hour, if I was looking for a car in this class today, from practical, performance and price points of view, the ISF would be easy choice over the M3.