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cirrusblau
09-27-2008, 07:38 AM
So I picked up a cheap eta and since it's over 20 years old, I'd need an appraisal to transfer the ownership and keep a clean title... Does anyone on here do appraisals or know of someone that does? I'm in the GTA

Haggis
09-27-2008, 08:55 AM
I know I got mine done for $100, But I went to two different MTO offices, one office said I needed one, the other office said I didnt. So I ended up getting the appraisal for nothing. Try going to a different MTO office and see if you can get away without getting one.

Rezae32
09-27-2008, 03:02 PM
You don't need to get an appraisal in the traditional sense. There is a green form that you need to get from the MTO office. It's specifically for transferring ownership. Just take it to any car dealership (used or new dealer) and have them fill it out for you. They shouldn't charge you anything unless they're trying to make a buck! They can put down whatever they want for the value and that is what you pay taxes on.

njansenv
09-27-2008, 06:19 PM
^I'm not sure that's technically true for cars greater than 20 years old, which are by MTO definition "classic".
They wouldn't register my car until I had a proper appraisal done. (local mechanic did it for me in Hamilton)
Nathan

Rezae32
09-28-2008, 03:23 AM
^I'm not sure that's technically true for cars greater than 20 years old, which are by MTO definition "classic".
They wouldn't register my car until I had a proper appraisal done. (local mechanic did it for me in Hamilton)
Nathan

I've registered 2 1988 BMW's in the last a few months using the above mentioned method. Things could be different in Hamilton but they shouldn't be...I went to Square One and Kipling/Queensway to do my registration...

e30_kid89
09-28-2008, 04:04 AM
^^^Did you have to do emissions for the 88's still?

njansenv
09-28-2008, 11:37 AM
Technically, '88's have to be e-tested. 88 and newer will NOT be following the "20 year rule" that was in place. My '87 did not need an e-test, and perhaps only e-test exempt cars need the appraisal? I don't know. I was told that the UVIP was not sufficient for a car of it's age.

Nathan

Rezae32
09-28-2008, 03:23 PM
^^^Did you have to do emissions for the 88's still?

I didn't need to have my 2 cars e-tested...

njansenv
09-28-2008, 06:39 PM
Very interesting. MTO's website seems pretty clear about the phasing out of the 20 year rule, and that '88's have to be e-tested.
You know someone in the office. :)

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/en/air/driveclean/ldv_faq.php#What%20model%20years%20of%20vehicles%2 0are%20required%20to%20go%20for%20emissions%20test ing?

Rezae32
09-28-2008, 07:17 PM
^I wish! A lot of these offices are franchised out. I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not...then again, they are all hooked up the MTO computers so it shouldn't make a difference!
Rez

hadesm5
09-28-2008, 09:49 PM
no need for appraisal, just fill out that bill of sale form (green one mentioned above)

Rezae32
09-28-2008, 09:51 PM
Just remember that you need to have a dealer number in order to fill out the green form...(used or new dealer)

cirrusblau
09-28-2008, 10:23 PM
What is this green form? I was told that I need to get an appraisal done since the car is greater than 20 years old. Does the green form take place of this?

FuryriderX
09-29-2008, 05:46 AM
yes. any dealer can do it. you can get the form at the MTO office, or off their website. took a bit of searching to find it though.

here's a rapidshare link if you want to download/print it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/149330330/appraisal_form.pdf.html

cirrusblau
09-29-2008, 09:39 PM
Hey everyone one, thanks for the help... just going to have to find a local dealership willing to do the inspection cheap/for free.

For future reference, the form can be downloaded at <a href="http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/english/forms/rst/pdf/1159.pdf">http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/english/forms/rst/pdf/1159.pdf</a>.

BMWnoob
04-29-2009, 08:00 AM
since it's 2009 now anyone familar with the process for an 88 car? does the green form still apply?

for example if i bought a parts car and it was appraised at like $500 bucks would the mto really care?

supernaught
04-29-2009, 09:34 AM
green form still applies. if you bought a parts car, dont bother with reg. phone them to be sure. No point making the trip in to get shut down.

cirrusblau
04-29-2009, 02:05 PM
If you want to keep a clean title, you must get an appraisal and do the whole green form bit. If you're scraping the chassis or it's going to be used off road, then you can transfer ownership without an appraisal (although I forget if it was pay tax on the invoice price, or no tax... can't remember the details).

Of course, you always have the option to not register - they'd never know the difference (but there are other implications to consider then...).

simplycars
04-29-2009, 02:27 PM
get the form from MTO and I can get it done for $50