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ecuconnection
08-27-2008, 02:25 PM
So I did my rear bushings & inner and outer tie rods on the car today and it turned out to be a real PITA for the bushings but omg the car feels like new

I used a long threaded bolt , washers , hockey puck, 46mm socket and made a bushing compressor that worked realy well.. I should have took pictures for a laugh

Now that everything is nice and tight front and back it's now time to get make more HP *par-t* stay tuned for pictures

everlast
08-28-2008, 08:28 AM
Glad everything worked out for you.. Makes the car feel 100% better doesn't it!

carjoe
08-28-2008, 09:28 AM
Nice! How were the tie rods? I may have to do the driver side...

ecuconnection
08-28-2008, 05:24 PM
tie rods were at danger zone for sure ... very lucky ball didnt pop out on one side

ecuconnection
08-28-2008, 07:00 PM
say hello to my little friend's ! *uzi*

*th-up*

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/028.jpg

carjoe
08-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Oooh, shiny!

everlast
08-29-2008, 08:28 AM
This... is gooooonna be fun.

Not to be a downer, but on a related note... be VERY careful driving with the turbo on. I can't find an insurance company that will insure my car if it is turbo'd. If you get in an accident and they see you've 'significantly modified the power output' (State Farm's words) your policy is void. If you injure someone and you have no policy, you'll pay for the rest of your life.

ecuconnection
08-29-2008, 10:05 AM
Ya I remember when I was doing the insurance stuff at carleton insurance brokers the only thing he asked is if I had NOS

everlast
08-29-2008, 10:17 AM
They don't ask anything anymore.. that's the problem. The Ontario-wide policy details that if you make any 'substantial changes' from your car's factory specifications you are to notify the insurance company or your claim may be refused. Which of course, we know may = will. Bastards.

Anyway.. slap that mofo on TODAY.

ecuconnection
08-29-2008, 10:21 AM
I have a few things too do befor I can slaper on there and the problem is I can't fing wait haha but ya still waiting on other parts

Anybody know where too buy silicone Reducers for the turbo piping in ottawa?

carjoe
08-29-2008, 10:33 AM
Tapp?

I for one am happy to see you doing all sorts of maintenance before the power. Good on ya B.

Just make sure you can stop too.

Anyone ever do subframe bushings?

Jamil20
08-29-2008, 10:34 AM
Umm...Bear...

I see 6 pipes on that manifold.

How much did you get your kit for BTW?

ecuconnection
08-29-2008, 12:07 PM
Umm...Bear...

I see 6 pipes on that manifold.

How much did you get your kit for BTW?

yes it's a 6 but will be choped and pluged to make it work on the 4 banger and it's not a kit I bought everything peice by peice ... The turbo was $200 t3/t4 hybrid off ebay (1year warranty) and no it's not glued toughther lol ... took it all apart and replaced the seals with T3 Garrett rebuild kit... Just waiting on oil return line and oil feed line to get the build started

ecuconnection
08-29-2008, 12:12 PM
Tapp?

I for one am happy to see you doing all sorts of maintenance before the power. Good on ya B.

Just make sure you can stop too.

Anyone ever do subframe bushings?

Brakes are good and subframe I think you have to drop the diff but hey that should be a peice of cake now haha :P

everlast
08-30-2008, 09:32 AM
http://www.streetimports.com/products.asp?catid=179

Silicon couplers, and these guys are in the east end somewhere. It's where I got my seats from. They have FMIC and stuff too.

everlast
08-30-2008, 09:34 AM
Just how do you plan on cutting off two pipes since it is built like a 3 + 3 into 1 style?

ecuconnection
08-30-2008, 05:45 PM
too easy! The JB weld is for insurance because the guy welding was having trouble due to the thin thin metal and the factory welds were defently done by a machine/robot

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/005.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/001.jpg

ecuconnection
08-30-2008, 10:39 PM
people start buying 318is E30s and you will be doing this haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i_KSI8VvH0

everlast
08-30-2008, 10:43 PM
Lol. Why didn't you get an ebay e30 318i turbo manifold? I see them all over the place! Anyway, good job!

And yeah, those damn robots. Gonna take over the world. Or, at least the turbo manifold factory.

ecuconnection
08-30-2008, 11:36 PM
the one I got was 125 to the door and this one is 500 to the door... It's defently a budget build lol


http://i23.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/01/ce/9a4b_1.JPG

everlast
08-31-2008, 01:19 AM
Thats wicked cheap.. I'm looking forward to this!

ecuconnection
08-31-2008, 01:32 AM
ya will be intresting too see how long befor it cracks but fun otherwise

ecuconnection
08-31-2008, 12:10 PM
part 1: Intercooler mount and Install

Everything was fairly easy for this as all the pipe fit perfectly and I only had too cut very little plastic behind the bumper to make thing's fit EBAY piping $100 = very solid and im happy with it

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/001-1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002-1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/003.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/004.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/005-1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/008.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/011.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/014.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/016.jpg

everlast
09-01-2008, 09:58 AM
Lookin' good! i'm envious!

everlast
09-02-2008, 08:12 AM
... Moarpics! Moar!

ecuconnection
09-02-2008, 03:24 PM
coming soon!! One thing at a time that way I don't go missing for 3 years with a car that is riped apart :P

ecuconnection
09-02-2008, 11:11 PM
Blow Off Valve unit preped and ready for install
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002-2.jpg

chromius
09-03-2008, 09:52 AM
Are you turbo'd yet?!:D

Looking good man, should be sweet.

My only thought though is that the JB weld on the manifold won't hold up with the heat. I think JB is only rated to like 300-600 degrees. where as exhaust temps at the manifold get up to like 700-1000 degrees, and that's for an N/A engine, I would imagine turbo manifolds get even hotter.

ecuconnection
09-04-2008, 02:29 PM
I did the ultimate in engine violations and wired up my gauges and spliced into the ecu harness and did that ever suck!! haha will take pix soon

everlast
09-04-2008, 02:32 PM
suck, like, not work, or suck, like, sucky to do?

ecuconnection
09-04-2008, 02:36 PM
sucky to do lol ... The o2 signal wire was wraped all the way to the pins where the ECU connects so I had to open everything up to the pins and trace back a little and place a splice on the line ... 02 signal wire is yellow but I found 4 yellow wires and was stumped so I had to go by the pin number... I can see many people spliceing the wrong yellow wire and connecting with the crank sensor lol ... NOT Good! :P

everlast
09-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Well, good work man! Is it running yet?

chromius
09-04-2008, 02:42 PM
sucky to do lol ... The o2 signal wire was wraped all the way to the pins where the ECU connects so I had to open everything up to the pins and trace back a little and place a splice on the line ... 02 signal wire is yellow but I found 4 yellow wires and was stumped so I had to go by the pin number... I can see many people spliceing the wrong yellow wire and connecting with the crank sensor lol ... NOT Good! :P

Not to knock your methods, but wouldn't it have just been easier to run a new wire to the exposed plug portion of the O2 signal wire underneath?:)

everlast
09-04-2008, 03:01 PM
The melting JB weld might drip on teh wirin'.

*j/k* :D

ecuconnection
09-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Not to knock your methods, but wouldn't it have just been easier to run a new wire to the exposed plug portion of the O2 signal wire underneath?:)


would have been easyer yes but the o2 sig wire and O2 sig ground are both wraped in a Ground shield and it would have been a real mess to fix all the up and I hear you should never splice at the o2 sensor or even near it for fear of water geting in on the connection and screwing up things

chromius
09-04-2008, 04:05 PM
would have been easyer yes but the o2 sig wire and O2 sig ground are both wraped in a Ground shield and it would have been a real mess to fix all the up and I hear you should never splice at the o2 sensor or even near it for fear of water geting in on the connection and screwing up things

I don't mean actually cutting the wire though, I'm talking about the plastic connector that actually unplugs from the O2, the plastic separates and you can just put the wire in and crimp it down, then put the plastic back on. Did it on the e30 and never had a problem. Not a big deal, just might have saved some time.:)

edit: real question is though...are you turbo'd yet? :)

everlast
09-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Pics Of The Manifold Installed. Today.

Or Stabbing.

ecuconnection
09-04-2008, 05:41 PM
I don't mean actually cutting the wire though, I'm talking about the plastic connector that actually unplugs from the O2, the plastic separates and you can just put the wire in and crimp it down, then put the plastic back on. Did it on the e30 and never had a problem. Not a big deal, just might have saved some time.:)

edit: real question is though...are you turbo'd yet? :)

where were you yesterday :P gzzz and not turboed yet my boost fuel regulator will be in tomorow and then hopefully can get underway

everlast
09-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Meh. You're just some dood you is going to turbo _someday_ just like me.

Except your someday is, like, Saturday, and mine is like.. 2011.

Ah shit.

ecuconnection
09-04-2008, 10:34 PM
it's turning out to be alot more work then I planed but one thing at a time and I will geter done! I think it's alot easyer if you slap the turbo in last and work on everything else first ... some people will say well thats silly to run around with a non working intercooler but I dont care and I might note that it is realy realy realy hard to not slap that turbo in right now!! lol

everlast
09-05-2008, 12:08 AM
actually bear, I think you are totally 100% correct.

gonna be running at least enough to get to M&M or you need a ride?

ecuconnection
09-05-2008, 12:11 AM
Oh ya I will be there for sure

ecuconnection
09-05-2008, 04:15 PM
Ran all the lines for the rising rate boost fuel regulator today and OOO did that ever suck I must of cut myself 10 times trying to remove rubber fuel line that has been huging steel for too many years... So basicly I just need to get the oil pan taped and the oil feed line ran and I will be able to put the headers & turbo in

everlast
09-05-2008, 04:18 PM
I have a tap and die set if you want to bring the pan over to do.

ecuconnection
09-05-2008, 05:47 PM
it's only 40 bucks at the shop so I might just do that cause I would have to put the car on ramps at your crib and it would be messy I think but thanks for the offer

ecuconnection
09-06-2008, 07:55 PM
so you better start posting pix there jay haha I wana see step by step action!

ecuconnection
09-09-2008, 11:04 AM
UPDATE: oil pan taped!!!

ecuconnection
09-10-2008, 02:51 PM
hey jay can you bring your tap set to lee's on sat if you end up going or if your intrested in helping me out sometime befor this monday I just need to put a 1/8 tap on the filter housing cover for the oil feed.. let me know... thanks!

everlast
09-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Of course, and I plan on being there. I'm out sunday so as long as it's saturday I'll be golden.

ecuconnection
09-10-2008, 03:30 PM
awesome ... I have never used a tap set befor so it will be good to have someone that know's what they are doing :)

ecuconnection
09-10-2008, 04:48 PM
Update: Gauges done

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/001-2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002-3.jpg

Jamil20
09-10-2008, 05:19 PM
That looks pretty good, Barry.

ecuconnection
09-10-2008, 05:29 PM
thanks

everlast
09-10-2008, 10:35 PM
Ya, looks really good.

I own a tap set, it doesn't mean I've used one before either. Better to learn on your car than mine.


:D

chromius
09-10-2008, 10:36 PM
Wicked man. Love the location.

ecuconnection
09-10-2008, 10:53 PM
thanks pictures are shit but the whole piller seats nice and flush without gaps

everlast
09-11-2008, 10:55 AM
lol, without question those could be the worst pictures i've ever seen you take bear

:D

edit: that last one, is that a polaroid that you later took a picture of with a disposable underwater camera?

chromius
09-11-2008, 11:03 AM
edit: that last one, is that a polaroid that you later took a picture of with a disposable underwater camera?

^^LMAO

bmdbley'sBro
09-11-2008, 12:58 PM
barry good stuff *th-up*

hope it all goes smooth with no issues for you.

nice gauge pod, post more pics!!

ecuconnection
09-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Update: Turbo in on sunday!

chromius
09-11-2008, 08:39 PM
Sweet dude. Can't believe how fast you got all this together.

everlast
09-12-2008, 09:04 AM
Well.. looky what I found:

http://www.sufi.cc/Maximum_boost.pdf

Bear, if you haven't read this, you should. Its not always accurate, its not always right, and some people disagree with a lot of it, but it still needs to be read as there is a LOT of good info in there. I have the actually book, made from like, wood or something. Its weird. :D

ecuconnection
09-12-2008, 02:44 PM
well I just ran into what could be potentialy a major problem ... after mesureing the placement of the turbo it looks like the intake on the cold side is going to hit the motor mount brace AHHH more custom work F&%^$^$ ... ADAM what size is your intake on the Turbo Compressor side 3inch? 4 Inch?

everlast
09-12-2008, 02:46 PM
can you get a t3 flange and stack it to raise the turbo a bit?

ecuconnection
09-12-2008, 03:03 PM
That's a very good idea.. They make just the flanges 1/2 inch thick so I would buy a couple of them and get longer studs and gaskets... **** ya!! Thanks jay

everlast
09-12-2008, 03:04 PM
Once you know the thickness, get them welded!

ecuconnection
09-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Update: Oil feed line taped and ran today with a major oil slick in the lane way lol... never put the feed line into a 650ml bottle to test lol.. the damn thing filled up so fast I couldnt get to the off on the car befor it spilled over... OOOPS!

It's time!!! Turbo TIME!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA everything is done and now ready for the Manifold & turbo!! ...

Anyone know where to get exhuast wrap localy? I wan't to do my headers to keep engine bay temps down and I read it's almost a 50% reduction in engine bay temp ..SWeet!

everlast
09-15-2008, 12:10 AM
Lol, that's awesome. I'm SO LOOKING forward to seeing this thing go.

BTW, I had a go at MIG welding today.. damn, that shit is straight forward. I played around for a few minutes getting the amperage and wire speed right, welded some braces on my father in law's trailer and then butt welded 2" exhaust pipes together with a nice smooth bead. The nice part of that is being able to see the penetration of the weld inside to make sure I went deep enough.

I think I'm going to look for a super cheap arc welder so I can fab up my exhaust here, tack it, then take it there and MIG it. Or try arc welding it here, but I can see how nice a MIG is over an arc welder.

jeffrie
09-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Arc is very hard to weld comapred to mig welding with light stuff.
General rule of thumb is mig for light/med welds, Arc for heavy steel (like tractor buckets) and Tig to do all & everything ealse slowly.

ecuconnection
09-15-2008, 12:47 AM
Lol, that's awesome. I'm SO LOOKING forward to seeing this thing go.

BTW, I had a go at MIG welding today.. damn, that shit is straight forward. I played around for a few minutes getting the amperage and wire speed right, welded some braces on my father in law's trailer and then butt welded 2" exhaust pipes together with a nice smooth bead. The nice part of that is being able to see the penetration of the weld inside to make sure I went deep enough.

I think I'm going to look for a super cheap arc welder so I can fab up my exhaust here, tack it, then take it there and MIG it. Or try arc welding it here, but I can see how nice a MIG is over an arc welder.

Did you find yourself wanting to weld everything within 100feet of you? lol MIG FEVER!

Jeff as if you can run stock programing with 10psi and 30lb Injectors... I think a turbo would need spark retard for sure because the air being pushed in is much hoter then your supercharger I would think anyway ... try and find me some injector adapters jeff if you ever get time to search around on the net because I can't find shit all

jeffrie
09-15-2008, 12:54 AM
Jeff as if you can run stock programing with 10psi and 30lb Injectors...

LOL like I said I rarly run into A/F problems...Even if it's inpossible :).
The way I see it the only reason I had an issue is so that you know exactly what to do once you slap the Turbo on.
2 hours of my time is more then worth saving 6 hours of your time troubleshooting problems that we were most likly out of your reach to begin with.

ecuconnection
09-15-2008, 12:57 AM
it's good news for me because injectors are a easy upgrade :)

jeffrie
09-15-2008, 01:01 AM
it's good news for me because injectors are a easy upgrade :)
Yes, but with out the adaptors for the 30lbs injectors, you will still need my RRFPR if you plan to stick with stock injectors. Glad to hear you found a way to tackle the turbo oil feed line issue you had.

ecuconnection
09-15-2008, 01:10 AM
I have a 1:1 ratio RRFPR & a 12:1 RRFPR I ended up ordering the 12:1 one for 130 bucks... should be allright!... I would love to find those adapters though and just change up those injectors would be mint mint setup

jeffrie
09-15-2008, 01:14 AM
I can give you one of my old injectors if you can find a guy to make you an adapter that will fit.
I already gave you the part # needed that will work NP.

ecuconnection
09-15-2008, 01:16 AM
oh that would be awesome!

jeffrie
09-15-2008, 01:22 AM
I'll only know Thursday if I can help out Lee this weekend, regardless I'll try to leave an injector with one of the Friday night meet's crew for you. Thinking Joe is your quickest bet.

Jay,... we are in need of a new Top Cart outing.
Be best to kick bears ass again before I pass on an advantage.

carjoe
09-15-2008, 11:06 AM
I can grab it no problem. Getting out to M&M is an issue though...unless you know someone who can tape drywall like it's nobody's business.

bmdbley'sBro
09-15-2008, 02:42 PM
Anyone know where to get exhuast wrap localy? I wan't to do my headers to keep engine bay temps down and I read it's almost a 50% reduction in engine bay temp ..SWeet!

let me know i could use some of that too!

on that subject anyone know if its ok to leave wrap on in winter scenerio
or would it promote rusted headers!?

everlast
09-15-2008, 03:02 PM
I'm not sure that you would want to use wrap on your manifold Bear.. the heat that doesn't go into your engine bay ends up staying in the manifold. Given the nature of the modifications to it, I would not recommend intentionally trying to keep it hotter.

I have read in places that people don't recommended wrap on any turbo application manifold with thin wall tubing, as the temps will get so high it will actually blow holes in the metal under the wrap.

ecuconnection
09-15-2008, 08:36 PM
Are you ready for this??? FINALY!!! after $1600 spent I heard my turbo spool under load at around 3000rpm... started at 9am with just ramps and tools and I battled super hard and finaly got the bad boy mounted and working ..only minor modification was cuting into the engine mount bridge but it was very minor and the turbo I got is way to big anyway..enjoy!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/006-2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/003-2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/007-2.jpg

everlast
09-15-2008, 08:58 PM
HELL YEAH BOY WTFG!!!!! :) You're my new hero!

carjoe
09-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Sick.Well done B. I hate all you FI guys.

everlast
09-16-2008, 01:08 AM
...and the turbo I got is way to big anyway...

total rubbish

chromius
09-16-2008, 08:34 AM
Sick dude!*rockout*

Is it driving yet? Because I think this even calls for a mid week meet so I can see this thing running.:)

Jamil20
09-16-2008, 09:47 AM
I'm going to ask the question. Is the JB weld holding? :P You should let it warm up and see if it starts to melt.

carjoe
09-16-2008, 10:24 AM
Sick dude!*rockout*

Is it driving yet? Because I think this even calls for a mid week meet so I can see this thing running.:)

In.

everlast
09-16-2008, 11:46 AM
In.

In too.

oldskool3
09-16-2008, 12:15 PM
In too.

me to

chromius
09-16-2008, 01:08 PM
I say Wednesday if Barrie is up for it!

everlast
09-16-2008, 01:08 PM
Concur.

Jamil20
09-16-2008, 01:49 PM
Me bazillion.

everlast
09-16-2008, 02:42 PM
We thread jack something terrible here, I know, but check this stack of spacers that just arrived at my office for me. :cool:

I'm going to use them to figure out how large of a spacer I can actually fit. If I need to, then later I can get hubcentric ones. I know for the front, I can only fit 3mm spacers so these will do perfectly. I got 4 3mm, 4 5mm, and two 12 mm for about $70 from fleabay!

chromius
09-16-2008, 03:22 PM
Nice. You should try those on the rear of the e90 too. :)

everlast
09-16-2008, 03:32 PM
Def gonna try them out on the e90. I can get huge 30mm type 2 spacers for the e90 that may *just* fit, so I'll stack these all up and use some long bolts to test fit. If they do, the spacers are only $60, hub and wheel centric.

On the other hand, I don't really want to spend money on the e90 when I really DO want to spend money on the e30. Its all ripped apart again for project derustify. I'm really happy actually, the bottom of the door was starting to show rust and has been previously repaired, but it wasn't through the metal or anything like I feared. In fact, from the inside of the door there is no rust at all, but about 1" (!!) of oil sludge from undercoating. Yay Krown! I found only 5 spots of rust on the whole car: driver door, surface rust from stone chips on each rear rocker (phew for finding before it rusted through), license plate lights (not bad at all) and two plugs where the oil spray holes were drilled. All in all, very, VERY minor, all surface except the door.

I bought a sandblaster today and am going to blast them tonight, rinse with water and POR-15 later tonight or tomorrow. The car will be 100% rust free then. I can't hardly believe it!

ecuconnection
09-16-2008, 05:45 PM
I would love too meet up but I need to get the exhaust done befor I can do anything and I work all day tomorow and I just drove around to every shop in kanata and nobody could take me today on short notice...I still have to make some modifications because the waste gate acuator is not going to fit so I will have to find a new place for it and make a longer rod...I also still have to connect the boost pipe to the turbo and Im still waiting on silicone elbows for that... I have some minor oil leak's at the oil return and im not sure how to fix it or what rubber hose to use that wont break down over time... If we get time at lee's I could also use some help and suggestions

oldskool3
09-16-2008, 10:13 PM
We thread jack something terrible here, I know, but check this stack of spacers that just arrived at my office for me. :cool:

I'm going to use them to figure out how large of a spacer I can actually fit. If I need to, then later I can get hubcentric ones. I know for the front, I can only fit 3mm spacers so these will do perfectly. I got 4 3mm, 4 5mm, and two 12 mm for about $70 from fleabay!

Any chance I could split the cost with you and borrow some to hopefully figure out the right spacing for my wheels?

everlast
09-16-2008, 11:01 PM
No need to split any cost. Most of the 3mm or 5mm will get used somehow on my e30. For testing fitting purposes we'll only need one wheel probably, so we can arrange a time to goof around with them!

ecuconnection
09-16-2008, 11:13 PM
We thread jack something terrible here, I know,

I started this thread not just for myself but for exact the reason you just posted those spacers ...Too many off topic in the friday's tims was the reason :P

I Should be boosting around 5psi by friday if I can get my exhuast and find some temporary pipe couplers made from rad hoses or something... Driving me nuts being able to hear the spool and not be making any power ... wasted boost!! AHHHHHHHHHHHhh

everlast
09-16-2008, 11:50 PM
Ahhh.. i get it now! Good thinking really! So here's another tidbit then: princess auto have a door crasher for digital multimeters for $5.88 with the battery included. If you do not have a digital meter, get it, it is well worth it.

I went it for it as a spare, plus a 'couple air fittings for my compressor' and came out with $185 of stuff, lol.

chromius
09-17-2008, 09:38 AM
Bummer...looks like I'm gonna miss it because I don't know if I'll be able to make it Friday :(

oldskool3
09-17-2008, 07:09 PM
No need to split any cost. Most of the 3mm or 5mm will get used somehow on my e30. For testing fitting purposes we'll only need one wheel probably, so we can arrange a time to goof around with them!

Sounds good Jay Ill pick you up a coffee instead. That brings your tally up to 3. Also what hub centric spacers are you planningon using?
Sorry to continue the thread jackage bear

ecuconnection
09-17-2008, 09:56 PM
no problem Jesse ... so the turbo trouble begins lol ... Oil line blewoff while I was driving and I shuter down as soon as I saw the presure light come on... got it towed to my house and I will need to have a better tap done on the oil filter housing with solder I guess

everlast
09-18-2008, 12:00 AM
damn.. minor set back.. you can recover!! how thick was the material it was tapped into?

everlast
09-18-2008, 12:01 AM
oh, and i will likely get some ones I ebay i found for a vW.. 10mm or 20mm hubcentric, or H&R for 15mm.

ecuconnection
09-18-2008, 12:38 AM
jay does your set come with the drill bits also?

everlast
09-18-2008, 08:11 AM
The tap set? No, but I have a nice big set of bits too.

That sounded very odd.

ecuconnection
09-18-2008, 10:21 PM
BOOSTED!!!!! 5psi with some little problems but not sure what to make of it ...Turbo spools car starts pulling hard and then for split second it cut's out and then pulls again ... not sure what to make of it

everlast
09-18-2008, 11:13 PM
Does the boost gauge stay steady? Any noises associated? Do you have an AFR meter in yet?

everlast
09-18-2008, 11:14 PM
Also any smoke, smell? Could be lean situation which will have no smoke or smell until its white from the headgasket; be careful!! Get an AFR before you do anything else if you don't have one!

chromius
09-19-2008, 08:58 AM
Ignition cutting out from ECU problems maybe? Or more likely is lean condition as Jay said. Notice any pinging?

bmdbley'sBro
09-19-2008, 12:11 PM
congrats man! *rockout*

I remember mine being stuttery, falling on its face if u gassed it to hard..
but it was cause the sds was wired into the coils instead of the diagnostics port
so it would only recieve 25% signal till a certain rpm...
which meant not enough gas

other then that there was a plug gap size issue, but i have lowered comp.

stock plugs or 1 range colder, stock gap?

rrfpr? my stock fuel pump makes like 3-4bar

got to be 1 of those 2 (ignit ~ fuel) cause u got the air coming in part covered! :P

disa valve (short /long intake mani)?
hose controlling it would pop off, can't recall if it caused anything like ur issue?

*swap in another afm yet to test that?

everlast
09-19-2008, 04:34 PM
QUESTION:

If I bought a MIG welder with gas for nice welds, would you guys have anything that would help me recover the cost? IE light welding work that I could do for a couple bucks?

Need some justification for taking up room in my garage, really.

ecuconnection
09-19-2008, 07:58 PM
count me in!

ecuconnection
09-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Not sure if my alternator is toast or the battery because I can push start the car and it will idle but almost want's to die

everlast
09-20-2008, 10:09 PM
Check it with a volt meter to be sure.

edit: if you got oil in it (which could partially conduct) it should be cleaned. one can of break cleaner should do it.

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 12:23 AM
did all that and still same result ... going to test batt tomorow at CT

everlast
09-21-2008, 12:51 AM
Damn, that's weird tho that it would be the battery. What voltage did it show?

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 01:04 AM
sorry I never put a volt meter to it but I did use a whole can of cleaner on it ... does the ECU know there is a alt or no?

everlast
09-21-2008, 01:16 AM
No, but your spark would suffer greatly as it would be generating a spark from 12V instead of 13.9V.

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 01:23 AM
battery has over 200,000 kms on it so I will start there lol

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 01:59 PM
it was the freakin batt the whole time... All the cells were dead and tricking the voltage regulator on the ALternator ... Boosting Strong!!... Fuel/air Guage still says im runing lean at wide open with 4 psi of boost at 4.2 bar of fuel presure

everlast
09-21-2008, 02:06 PM
yikes on the lean.. how do you plan on solving? what type of pressure regulator are you using? adjustable rising rate or just rising rate?

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 08:33 PM
all good now ...car run's perfect with rising rate and with only 4-5psi the car pulls nice and no more lean out... thanks again george for help today because I would have blown the engine within a week with those snow white plugs lol

everlast
09-21-2008, 10:01 PM
Awesome, can't wait for a ride! In fact.. I did let you drive me car.. :)

ecuconnection
09-21-2008, 10:06 PM
sure! it runs so good it's almost too good to be true lol what's next to go :P

everlast
09-21-2008, 11:28 PM
Crank 'er up to 9 PSI and find out! :) Are you coming to bav now?

chromius
09-22-2008, 08:50 AM
Are you coming to bav now?

+1?*rockout*

Jamil20
09-22-2008, 10:28 AM
Jay with a can of brake fluid, and Barry with a tube of JB weld, together they can build a whole car.

bmdbley'sBro
09-23-2008, 03:01 PM
ok so i can't believe no one else said it yet

PICS & VIDZ ~!!!

get to work!!

everlast
09-23-2008, 08:06 PM
or better yet...

RIDEZ

ecuconnection
09-23-2008, 10:39 PM
I still have to clean up some stuff but overall I think I did a prity good job :)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/004-3.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/006-3.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/009-2.jpg

jeffrie
09-23-2008, 11:09 PM
Not a big fan of the black tape on the intake boot but... Holy kickass budget boost done perfect.
Cingrats with the one hell of a great sussesful first try :).
Bearly anything left to clean up to boot.

Now you need to use your experteise and get Adams working before he goes postal...

ecuconnection
09-23-2008, 11:18 PM
ya I don't like the tape but it's just to keep the boot from ballooning under boost plus to get a elbow made with that odd manifold shape and custom aluminum welding would prob get me into the $80 range and the tape was two bucks lol

everlast
09-24-2008, 08:06 AM
Awesome job Bear, you deserve applause!

For the boot, maybe you should use duct tape instead. While anyone who knows me knows I love black tape, duct tape has fiberglass in it that makes it resistant to stretching. Maybe cover the duct tape in black tape so it doesn't look like Red Green built your terrrrrboh.

chromius
09-24-2008, 09:15 AM
^^^I think hockey tape would be much better, and look alright too. It's all fiber and very little rubber, so it shouldn't stretch.

Bear, the electrical tape is quite stretchy, and gets gooey with heat and time. If you were to add more boost I would think that tape would stretch.

ecuconnection
09-24-2008, 12:29 PM
I have very strong clear hockey tape under the black tape... It's not going anywhere and im too lazy to change it :P

Philboski
09-24-2008, 03:05 PM
I have very strong clear hockey tape under the black tape... It's not going anywhere and im too lazy to change it :P

This post is indicator #127 that this is a Canadian forum. :D

ecuconnection
09-24-2008, 03:49 PM
tied the wastegate shut and took her to 10psi in 3rd gear and I currenlty need to change my underwear...

everlast
09-24-2008, 06:15 PM
****EN eh. how was the a/r ratio at that boost level? Do you have a wideband in there yet?

ecuconnection
09-24-2008, 10:05 PM
air fuel is reading 11 rich at boost but the alternator is for sure done and wont even power the fuel pump now

ecuconnection
09-26-2008, 06:36 PM
so changed up the alternator today and the car runs like a dream!! ... MY spark must have been weak as hell... On the rd again!

everlast
09-26-2008, 08:17 PM
that's awesome bear, i'm there.. 9:30ish, save me a spot.

ecuconnection
10-01-2008, 01:42 PM
anybody have a old 4 wire O2 sensor laying around?

everlast
10-01-2008, 02:20 PM
What would you do with it?

ecuconnection
10-01-2008, 02:24 PM
run it in my car for 2 minutes to see if I blew the relay for the O2 Heater

everlast
10-01-2008, 02:30 PM
Dammit man, go buy that multimeter!! :D Cnd Tire have one this week for $10 and comes with a case and some pliers.

ecuconnection
10-01-2008, 02:35 PM
well I also want to see if the o2 sensor is failing or why the hell im runing super rich at idle and in cruise and its a easy swap in and out... Im in cheap mode right now after all the money spent so I need to save here and there and I dont feel like droping 100 on a new o2 sensor if its not the problem because I just replaced the thing not long ago

ecuconnection
10-02-2008, 09:02 PM
Problem found!! ... Odd but the O2 Heater Element failed but the sensor was still sending a signal but would get to cold at idle and make the car run pig rich... lesson learned don't throw away old o2's that still worked lol

everlast
10-02-2008, 10:57 PM
So that fixed up the problem? Good catch Bear.

ecuconnection
10-03-2008, 05:48 PM
somewhat fixed... I have exhuast leaks too that are screwing things up a little ... let me know when you get that welder and I will pay to play :)

everlast
10-03-2008, 08:56 PM
Lol, how about muffler cement? I'm not likely to buy one since I have my father-in-laws whenever i want to use it, but its in cornwall. Seriously though, muffler cement is about $3, buy some rubber gloves, spread it all over the leaking area and run the car for a few mins, it will harden right up. Its not good strength wise, but seals leaks great.

ecuconnection
10-04-2008, 12:45 AM
hole is too big for that I think but ya I have used that befor and it worked well

everlast
10-04-2008, 01:30 AM
Maybe some thin metal wrapped with a clamp around it? or is the hole in an awkward spot? I've fixed some largish holes with a coke can and a hose clamp that lasted longer than the rest of the exhaust, lol.

ecuconnection
10-05-2008, 08:54 PM
has anybody done knock sensors for e36 ?? My car is throwing code 1226 and 1222

everlast
10-05-2008, 10:11 PM
Sensor is super easy to change, two bolts and it unplugs from the harness. The rear one is a bit of a pita to get at, or was on the car I did.

HOWEVER, code 1222 is O2 sensor related (probably from running rich like mad) and 1226 doesn't mean the sensor is *bad*, it means it is either bad OR the sensor has 'sent mutiple signals'.

This would raise the alarms for me if I were you.. your car could be suffering predetonation which could mean BOOM for the motor if you don't correct it. Considering the trouble you're having with mixture, etc, how certain are you that you're not going lean at times? Running rich at certain points certainly doesn't mean it won't be running lean at other points of course.

ecuconnection
10-05-2008, 11:51 PM
I can smell fuel at idle and there is hesitation from idle for a split second and then she get's up and go's like mad with black smoke... From what I read a bad knock sensor will have fuel dump at idle and in cruise... at idle the air/fuel mixture is 10-11 and then in cruise it will sometimes stick at 11.5-12ish and then throw a CEL for the O2 sensor when in fact it's a brandnew one and it's defently not the o2 sensor... it only started throwing these CEL's after the oil spill so I have a feelin it's related to that mess ...anyway it's #2 I have to replace so that should be fun ... NOT!

On a good note im glad these problems are not related to the turbo side of thing's

everlast
10-06-2008, 12:50 AM
My point is you're going to be changing o2 sensors constantly unless you fix the rich problem, and that it doesn't just through those codes when the knock is bad, but when your engine is knocking.

Even though you're rich at idle and you see black smoke, it doesn't mean it's not going lean at some point.

If you haven't gone one already, you are going to need a wideband O2 sensor, there's not way around it; you might as well get one now instead of wasting money changing other things when you're not solving the problem, only the symptoms of the problem. Without a wideband, you will not be able to really know what's going on. A narrow band simply doesn't react fast enough for your gauge to even show what is happening.

These things are related to the turbo side of things; your fuel is not tuned! I'm not saying this to be a bitch, I just don't want you to waste your money on bandaids or blow up your motor / catch your catalytic converter on fire.

ecuconnection
10-06-2008, 07:00 AM
I hear ya .. More money wooo!! :P

In the bentley it says when 1226 shows up it's a bad circuit and nothing about knock occuring... I have been listening for pinging too and nothing and I listend to many utube clips to get an idea of the sound... well Im going to replace the sensor and see what happens because I have been over everything possible acept for the coolant temp sensor and the knock sensor

Lee in Ottawa
10-06-2008, 08:55 AM
Bear wouldn't a wideband help you figure all this out? An Lc1 is only $100 and you already have the gauge.

ecuconnection
10-06-2008, 04:32 PM
hit a pot hole this morning and shortly after the car run's perfect and has been all day with no cels for the first time in a week and a hot start up will idle perfectly ... something was loose or shorting for sure

everlast
10-06-2008, 04:45 PM
LOL +1 for potholes

Jamil20
10-06-2008, 08:53 PM
I'm going to go find a pothole, maybe it'll pop my hood.

carjoe
10-06-2008, 09:45 PM
Ahmad, have you tried pulling one of the kidneys yet? If you have an undertray panel, I doubt getting under the car would help but there must be another way other than putting a hole in that hood...

ecuconnection
10-07-2008, 06:07 PM
funny photo of buddy doing the 325 to 328 m50 swaphttp://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v274/65/27/505042257/n505042257_661250_5307.jpg

ecuconnection
10-12-2008, 09:31 PM
Blew a turbo gasket today... Got the turbo out in like under a hour this time ... Im geting way to good at this stuff http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002-6.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/006-5.jpg

chromius
10-13-2008, 02:06 PM
That sucks. At least you're getting quick with this stuff.

Almost looks like the bolts on that side of the gasket weren't tight, gasket looks like it was burned.

ecuconnection
10-13-2008, 02:12 PM
yup! both bolts on that side had fallen away..hopefully can get a gasket and new bolts befor sunday!

ecuconnection
10-13-2008, 09:30 PM
OOOPS!! I had two gaskets insted of one in that place and its no wonder it blew out !! ... DAMN ! put the one that was ok back in place and she now makes boost at 2600ish and I can now hear a turbo wistle lol OOPS!

everlast
10-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Awesome Bear! Can't wait for the cruise! I told work that if something comes up that day, too ****en bad! :)

chromius
10-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Awesome Bear! Can't wait for the cruise! I told work that if something comes up that day, too ****en bad! :)

Couldn't have said that for Bav!?:moon::P

Lee in Ottawa
10-13-2008, 11:01 PM
bear ur too crazy

Lee in Ottawa
10-13-2008, 11:01 PM
funny photo of buddy doing the 325 to 328 m50 swaphttp://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v274/65/27/505042257/n505042257_661250_5307.jpg

wtf is with you and the newspapers?

ecuconnection
10-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Well lads and ladies it finaly happend!! *thmbsdwn* Turbo exhaust side seal is blown!! Went to start the car this morning and there was oil spatter all over the snow and driping from the tail pipe... It was fun while it lasted!! however this is totaly my fault because I over filled the oil by a finger nail lengh accidently the other day and well the seals don't like that... Lesson learned dont be lazy and drain your oil if you over fill *wave* I will be back!!

Oh I should mention I almost got 7000Kms out of a 200$ ebay t3/t4 hybrid turbo and it prob would have went alot longer without my mistakes

everlast
10-29-2008, 04:33 PM
Have you considered changing the seal? They're cheap.

ecuconnection
10-29-2008, 08:44 PM
I was thinking that and I was even thinking hey I still have my warranty too but I drove around all day today and Im sure I toasted the bearings without oil hooked up... car is going away soon anyway so Im not too worryed about my $200 turbo... it can be easly replaced

George77
10-29-2008, 09:39 PM
What do you mean by :going away?,you're gonna sell it or it's life is over?

George77
10-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Now I can POST,ha ha

George77
10-29-2008, 09:42 PM
If you part it I might need some parts from it:D

ecuconnection
10-29-2008, 09:52 PM
Hey George!! welcome! about time! Im not parting it out ... going to store it for winter maybe ... talk soon buddy

George77
10-29-2008, 10:13 PM
Good good ,I didn't have that chance.

ecuconnection
10-29-2008, 11:20 PM
what's next on the build list george or will it be a surprize

chromius
10-30-2008, 10:00 AM
Sorry to hear Bear. On the bright side, at least it wasn't on a $600 turbo. :)

everlast
10-30-2008, 12:28 PM
Sorry to hear Bear. On the bright side, at least it wasn't on a $600 turbo. :)

Was that a dig at me? :D

chromius
10-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Was that a dig at me? :D

No not at all.*wiggle*

everlast
10-30-2008, 12:32 PM
No not at all.*wiggle*

How's your PS pump? *wave*

chromius
10-30-2008, 12:44 PM
haha...replaced last night. But I'm lost as to why this keeps happening. Everything is solid, lined up, and locked in place.

everlast
10-30-2008, 12:46 PM
LOL. So car is back on the road then, great. Was the back bracket loose then like you had suspected / hoped?

Jamil20
10-30-2008, 01:02 PM
JB weld and electrical tape.</Bear>

:D

everlast
10-30-2008, 01:08 PM
Huh? :)

Jamil20
10-30-2008, 01:12 PM
The only tools you need to fix anything car related.

everlast
10-30-2008, 01:14 PM
Ahh.. lol.

chromius
10-30-2008, 01:17 PM
LOL. So car is back on the road then, great. Was the back bracket loose then like you had suspected / hoped?

Yeah, car is back on the road, until the pump goes again in 6 months*mumble*

Nope, the back bracket wasn't loose. the loctite held up. So that leaves me guessing/wondering/worrying as to what could be causing this.:confused:

ecuconnection
10-30-2008, 03:04 PM
WTF!! turbo is not blown!! ... I hooked the oil line and everything is fine now???? turbo even spools fine after runing a full day without oil feeding it haha Im lost!!! ... what would the black water stuff be spiting out my exhaust in the mornings??

chromius
10-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Probably black carbon deposits from the engine running rich. They've coated the insides of your exhaust pipes, and on cold mornings you get lots of condensation which would gather those carbon deposists/soot and spit it out the exhaust in liquid form.

ecuconnection
10-30-2008, 03:08 PM
SOB!!! I thought for sure it was oil ... errggg!!

Jamil20
10-30-2008, 03:12 PM
Sweet, Bear. Too bad you're still putting it away. :)

everlast
10-30-2008, 04:40 PM
Rofl @ Bear

ecuconnection
10-30-2008, 11:42 PM
I don't even know how the turbo is still spining when I drove all day without the feed hooked up ... lol could this turbo be bear proof lol... has anyone ever heard of spark plugs backing them selfs off ??

chromius
10-31-2008, 08:51 AM
has anyone ever heard of spark plugs backing them selfs off ??

Yep, it's happened to me a couple of times. And others with my car. The general consensus, on my model anyway, is that Bosch plugs do that for some reason. The OEM NGK's don't. I assume it has to do with the expansion rates of the plugs in the aluminum heads, or something along those lines. I will be switching back to NGK shortly.

Either way, not a huge deal. Just tighten them back up and all should be fine.

kris 325
10-31-2008, 10:52 AM
wow that's sweet man lucky as well !

so are going to add more boost after the winter ?

jeffrie
11-01-2008, 04:05 AM
Yep, it's happened to me a couple of times. And others with my car. The general consensus, on my model anyway, is that Bosch plugs do that for some reason. The OEM NGK's don't. I assume it has to do with the expansion rates of the plugs in the aluminum heads, or something along those lines. I will be switching back to NGK shortly.

Either way, not a huge deal. Just tighten them back up and all should be fine.

Had the very same issue once with my old Audi, Bosch platinums came loose, bought new ones & they did the same again. Went with the recomended NGK plugs and they stayed in the head.

everlast
11-04-2008, 04:26 PM
In case I forgot to post this:

http://rapidshare.com/files/72011802/Maximum_boost.pdf
http://www.sufi.cc/Maximum_boost.pdf

If you haven't read this book and you're into turbos, you should. Don't take everything as golden word, but there is a lot of great info, even if its a little dated. At least it applies to our old buckets.

ecuconnection
11-04-2008, 10:59 PM
Jay I can't wait to see your setup!! ... knowing you and your extreme attn to detail the final product will be SUPER­CALI­FRAGI­LISTIC­EXPI­ALI­DOCIOUS

everlast
11-05-2008, 12:45 AM
Well.. we'll see. It depends on how much $ I want to sink. :) But I'll try my bestist!

ecuconnection
11-09-2008, 07:11 PM
M50 Manifolds fit M42's when you chop the 5 and 6 port HELLO!!! nEW MOD~!

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Replaced engine coolant temp sensor today and to my surprize it was like half rotted away... car run's like new now ... as if a little sensor like that can cause such major fuel problems

everlast
11-11-2008, 02:04 PM
Little sensor? Engine coolant temp is the primary multiplier of fuel. At 0C a motor takes something like 6 times the fuel to run than fully warm! :D Good thing you caught it!

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 02:09 PM
well at 17 bux for the sensor im like there is noway this will fix my problems but holy shit did it ever ... I punch the gas and its like it has ITB's or something lol

everlast
11-11-2008, 02:10 PM
Now imagine if you got a wideband and could actually tune that bitch. :)

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I have wideband ears :P I actulay heard my first engine knock the other day on the highway in 4th I messed with the waste gate and it set to 10 psi and I was just going like stink and then I hear can of marbles and I let off right away... funny it wouldnt do that in the lower gears though .. I dont understand it

everlast
11-11-2008, 03:33 PM
sorry dude, but I do not think you can tune an EFI motor with your ears. roughly, maybe, with any degree of accuracy, i don't think so.

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 03:52 PM
I know Im just messing around ... still not bad for a crude turbo setup lol

everlast
11-11-2008, 03:53 PM
Better than "not too bad", I'm just saying that wideband should be your next goal.

everlast
11-11-2008, 03:59 PM
BTW, I order my Bosch Design 3 42# injectors today. Flow matched with provided flow data sheet, rebuild with new ring, etc, ultrasonic cleaned, painted body, the works.. $200 US. Let the black smoke commence! :D

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 04:24 PM
42# seems like alot no??? I guess you will have full control over your fuel anyway

everlast
11-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Yep 42# is a lot. I had to choose between 30# and 42#. My calcs show that my desired power (~265hp) would require between 30# and 34# though, so 42# will be safe.

Gonna be a little hard to get a smooth idle with high impedance 42#r though.

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 04:28 PM
will stock fuel pump handle those? or rather how much psi would be needed to keep them working effiecently?

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 04:58 PM
just went to start the car again now that it has cooled down and boom! rough idle again and back to square one ... car wont even idle high to warm it's self up... I give up ! maybe my dme is bad

everlast
11-11-2008, 05:14 PM
I have a 255lph pump. I wouldn't try it on a stock pump, but it might work. As long as its predictable, fuel management should be able to compensate for it.

I highly doubt your DME is bad, its just not tuned man. Dunno how many times I'm going to have to say that. Others, please chime in here and back me up. :D Without tuning, the odds of your motor running smooth at all times (cold, hot, idle, WOT, etc) are astronomically small. So you are very likely out of tune to the point of running rough at times. No amount of replacing things or guessing at faulty parts will fix it. In fact, its likely that everything is running exactly as designed. I dunno if you noticed, but you added a turbo to your car!! :D LOL That wasn't in BMW's initial design.

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 05:24 PM
it's not a tune issue .... I unhook everything in 5 mins and im back to NA and still have the same problem... Remember my AFM is after the turbo ... I dont have bigger injectors ... the rrfpr only adds fuel in boost ... so when I remove a peice of charge pipe im back to NA.. it's something else for sure ... car run's perfectly when warm

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 05:48 PM
thing's I think it might be list lol

Oil geting past the valve seals and fouling the plugs
10w40 oil
Injector leaking while the car is off
fuel filter
back presure in the intake manifold
vaccum leak but I presurized the intake and it held air

Other things that i find odd... car want's to almost stall when I turn the car heater to full blast quickly ... when I pump the brakes at idle there will be a jump in rpms

Jamil20
11-11-2008, 09:14 PM
I think your car is taking offense to your signature. :)

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 09:39 PM
leaking injectors have been ruled out with a simple test

Jamil20
11-11-2008, 09:52 PM
Pull your plugs and see if they're fouled. When I put too much oil in my bike, my plugs got fouled easily and the bike wouldn't run.

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 10:34 PM
I got the ball's to open up the afm iner working and messed around with the door while the car was idleing and all symptoms went away when I force the door back a tiny bit so it lean's out (I think)... all the cold idle problems go away... George I need your help with ajusting the afm as I know you have done it lotz

everlast
11-11-2008, 10:49 PM
The problem with using an adjusted AFM, is that the computer may revert to default map when the AFM is out of spec which may make it run really rich when stone cold. However, otherwise, you might never get a good idle without it warm, so probably the better of two evils.

Edit: nah, nevermind. If you're not running larger injectors you should be fine.

ecuconnection
11-11-2008, 11:19 PM
I'm wondering if the rushing boost air has weekend the spring for the afm door flaper

everlast
11-11-2008, 11:40 PM
Seems unlikely, but perhaps.

chromius
11-12-2008, 09:37 AM
I would be willing to bet you've got a combination of problems Bear.

One could be the burning oil from the valve seals.

Next could be spark plug temperature. Plugs that are too cold a range will have a tendency to cause a rough idle because at idle they have a hard time reaching their self cleaning temp.

Next could be an issue with your exhaust manifold flow capabilites. because you used a 6cyl manifold and chopped the end off you could be getting some backpressure, which at idle would keep your manifold from scavenging the exhaust gasses out, and allowing exhaust to remain in the cylinders and preventing a good combustion.

Next, and the one I think is your biggest issue, is the placement of your AFM, and/or possibly a bad AFM and/or a damaged AFM from being under boost.

Just the fact that you're using an Vane type AFM on an un-tuned turbo setup is a huge issue too. The simple design of that type of meter just doesn't lend it self well to the type of set-up you have. and in no way can it accurately measure your airflow on the pressure side of the turbo with stock tune. Just not gonna happen. Hell they aren't even that great on measuring airflow on a stock N/A engine.

As Jay said, I think all your problems could be fixed with some tuning. Your stock ECU is trying to do all kinds of weird compensations for it's out of whack sensors based on the one MAJOR assumption, that you are a Naturally aspirated stock motor.:P

ecuconnection
11-12-2008, 10:00 AM
swaped spark plugs back to oem = still does it
going to rip apart intake manifold today and check disa valve
replace knock sensor #2

will report back

everlast
11-12-2008, 11:45 AM
Hey bear.. I wonder... your ECU will "learn" to behave to a degree. I wonder if you have it confused as all **** now. Try pulling power from the battery for 10 mins and try again and see if it behaves differently.

Its not throwing any codes eh? Can you do a stomp test on an e36? I wonder if there are codes at all. Its OBD-I correct?

everlast
11-12-2008, 11:45 AM
edit: Double post FTW.

ecuconnection
11-12-2008, 01:06 PM
I don't work on the car ever with the battery hooked up ... reset the ecu a million times... Anyway I think I found the problem (X my fingers) when I worked on the car a month back and had the intake off I seated one of the intake gaskets wrong bent the shit out of it and then bent it back and stuck it back on ... I replaced both at the disa valve so hopefully that's what it is... I just have to wait for the car to get cold now.... I couldnt get at the #2 knock sensor for the life of me but I almost look's like there is a crack on it but hard to tell if its just from when they manufactured it and left a mold impression... you have to remove the bottom half of the intake on the m42 to get at that and omg it's a hell of a job ... might as well rebuild the engine while your at it haha

bmdbley'sBro
11-12-2008, 01:57 PM
yes the m42 is a diiirty mofo to work on...

but i only have others to go by on this :D

everlast
11-12-2008, 02:22 PM
I noticed that knock sensor on my father-in-laws car and hoped I never had to change it. His car was throwing knock sensor codes.

carjoe
11-12-2008, 02:29 PM
Sounds almost as fun as an M50 starter replacement...

Has anyone used an EGT to tune? I read somewhere that in some cases it can be a better tool. And no, I'm not thinking of FI...

everlast
11-12-2008, 03:08 PM
I think EGT is a valuable but not necessary bit of info. For getting the most out of a tune, yes, but not absolutely necessary. I am likely going to get one since I found a cheap one ($100 gauge + sensor) and it will match my other gauges. AFR is more relevant though (I think).

ecuconnection
11-12-2008, 06:22 PM
looks like the steely gaskets was the problem*th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up**th-up*

I still think the afm is dying too though ... ripin around tonight and at stop lights sometime at idle the car will just randomly drop to like 200rpm then go back to normal idle just once... ohwell

ecuconnection
11-12-2008, 09:05 PM
rough idle is completey gone but car still will not idle high for a cold start up... start up idle jumps to 2000 rpm for about 5 secs and smoothly comes down to the correct hot idle... how is all your cold starts sequences ??

jeffrie
11-13-2008, 07:20 AM
@ first start up my car idels like stock, actualy it's smoother then stock.
Although if it's -20C out and I give it a shot of gas withing the first 30 secs of startup it will sometimes stall if I let it try to settle it's own idel, usualy it'll just dip down real low and save itself but doesn't always.
After the 30 secs idel and idel recovery is just like it was before the SC was installed.

Ohh and bear, wait till you see the TQ bunus you get once temps reach -20C, I do not know why but FI and -20 gives you an added boost in power for some reason.

everlast
11-13-2008, 12:34 PM
-20 charge air will mean HUGE power improvements.. its not in your head!

chromius
11-13-2008, 12:40 PM
-20 charge air will mean HUGE power improvements.. its not in your head!

Providing you're getting enough fuel in for the denser air.

everlast
11-13-2008, 12:44 PM
Absolutely correct. This is where AFM style metering sucks, and MAF is far superior. Or knowing pressure and temperature.

bmdbley'sBro
11-13-2008, 02:13 PM
how is all your cold starts sequences ??

my shit is Weird! but i have issues..

throwing a cel since late 06!
cel happens only at idle (warmed up) or cruising at a constant speed,
give it some gas & the Cel goes away..?

i have some leakage at my charge pipe right at the turbo (so after its metered)

Cold starts it usually dips way down & doesn't save itself (cold or warm out),
but every now and again it will just idle like its normal stock on a 1st cold start!?
so usually i have to be on the gas feathering it.

bear i should get you to listen for hidden hissing on my ride, your like a diagnosis pro!

ecuconnection
11-13-2008, 05:16 PM
my shit is Weird! but i have issues..

throwing a cel since late 06!
cel happens only at idle (warmed up) or cruising at a constant speed,
give it some gas & the Cel goes away..?

i have some leakage at my charge pipe right at the turbo (so after its metered)

Cold starts it usually dips way down & doesn't save itself (cold or warm out),
but every now and again it will just idle like its normal stock on a 1st cold start!?
so usually i have to be on the gas feathering it.

bear i should get you to listen for hidden hissing on my ride, your like a diagnosis pro!

I had that exact problem with the CEL and give it gas and it go's away ... just recently tracked it down to a worm AFM spring ... moved it clockwise 5 notches and havent got that cel since

I used incents and pvc cap with a tire valve and a compressor ... intake held 10 psi befor I heard a leak at the DISA valve unit

I think the major problem when turboing the m42 is the lack of check valves that maybe needed for thing's such as everything damn thing that was never use to seeing positive presure... example: I have a feelin when I get into boost im actulay blowing air into the gas tank threw the evap system... that is prity much my mission for next summer.. find all the items that may be seeing postive presure and check valve the shit out of them

ecuconnection
11-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Finaly tracked down my rich condition problem... Cheap ebay regulator failed in the high presure postion ... You can cleary see the split disk and the rubber gasket is deformed and was able to stretch it self up into the piston that go's up and down and it got stuck


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/001-6.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/002-8.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/Bear607/003-4.jpg

Intrested in selling that RRFPR jeff?

George77
11-16-2008, 09:32 PM
I told you more then twice to check that ebay shit

ecuconnection
11-16-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm a newbie what can I say :P

everlast
11-16-2008, 11:54 PM
Got my first 524TD manifold notched and ported today. Crappy pic but you can see the notches at the 4o'clock position around each inlet and the shiny porting in the inner portion of each inlet. Had a lot of fun machining it.