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PBalla
02-05-2003, 09:29 PM
http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=95591

M z3, was he talking about M/// roadster? or has this z3 edition passed me by...or maybe M coupe was it?

Soldo
02-05-2003, 10:59 PM
DAMN JAP guys, all they talk about with their cars is the 1/4 mile, some people need to STOP watchin FAST AND THE FURIOUS and relize that 1/4 mile was made for MUSCLE CARS not FWD economic JAP cars!!!
its not about who can drive in a STRAIGHT LINE the fastest either, i dunno WHAT that proves!!
its all about the car, AFTER the straght line, when the CORNERS kick in, then we'd see how BADLY that supra would get KILLED!!!

Soldo
02-05-2003, 11:05 PM
ALSO, how in the WORLD is a M ROADSTER lighter than a COUPE!!
when CLEARLY more metal is required to stiffen up the chasis in a roadster, making the COUPE (WHICH HAS A ROOF) lighter!!
and hence FASTER!!

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 03:45 AM
1/4mile is fun...but road course is more fun

mkgino
02-07-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
1/4mile is fun...but road course is more fun


Really? And how would you know, you havent done either :D

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by mkgino
Really? And how would you know, you havent done either :D

i've done 1/4mile (rougly) not road course...both with auto...i just learned stick recently....

supra is 1/4mile beast, u can get 600hp on stock internals

Alezone
02-07-2003, 06:15 PM
Supra 3,450lbs Twin Turbo.... :huh?: 320hp
M Coupe 2,989lbs Xsupercharged/Xturbocharged engine 315hp
do the calculation *th-up*

I like the Supra, but it's too Big and Heavy
I love the M Coupe, bcos it's Small and Light *th-up*

PS. It's about the build quality :idea:

tho i think the Supra is one of the best looking japanese cars, besides GTR and RX-7.

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Alezone
Supra 3,450lbs Twin Turbo.... :huh?: 320hp
M Coupe 2,989lbs Xsupercharged/Xturbocharged engine 315hp
do the calculation *th-up*

I like the Supra, but it's too Big and Heavy
I love the M Coupe, bcos it's Small and Light *th-up*

PS. It's about the build quality :idea:

tho i think the Supra is one of the best looking japanese cars, besides GTR and RX-7.

thats stock for stock....think about after modding it? supra has tonnes of potential..there are a lot in the US pushing way over 600hp...

tlaselva
02-07-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Alezone
Supra 3,450lbs Twin Turbo.... :huh?: 320hp
M Coupe 2,989lbs Xsupercharged/Xturbocharged engine 315hp
do the calculation *th-up*

I like the Supra, but it's too Big and Heavy
I love the M Coupe, bcos it's Small and Light *th-up*

PS. It's about the build quality :idea:



Supra's can be made, with minimum investment, into cars that'll destroy any car on the road in a straight line.

Minor upgrades, around 1000 Dollars and your at 400+ HP.
Sink 10 G's into a Supra TT 6 Speed, and your likely 600+ HP, with the stock block and internals.

It's too bad their so damn hard to find.

Alezone
02-07-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
thats stock for stock....think about after modding it? supra has tonnes of potential..there are a lot in the US pushing way over 600hp...

That's Stock to Stock,
Potential? 600hp? go check out the Turbocharged M Coupe if u think the Supra is the only one have that output

The AA MCoupe run 3.9sec from 0-60mph as I could remember

Modding a car? all the cars can be modified to get good numbers. Afterall, Supra is rated lower, bcos speed is not everything.

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Alezone
That's Stock to Stock,
Potential? 600hp? go check out the Turbocharged M Coupe if u think the Supra is the only one have that output

The AA MCoupe run 3.9sec from 0-60mph as I could remember

Modding a car? all the cars can be modified to get good numbers. Afterall, Supra is rated lower, bcos speed is not everything.

supra IMO is good for one thing...show car, and 1/4mile car...i never seen an M coupe run 9sec...have you? i have videos n stuff of 9sec supras...they are so common in the US

Alezone
02-07-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
supra IMO is good for one thing...show car, and 1/4mile car...i never seen an M coupe run 9sec...have you? i have videos n stuff of 9sec supras...they are so common in the US

Bcos German cars are not built for speed only, it's about overall performance, go to muscle car forum if u like to see 9sec cars. Why european cars are more expensive? it's about prestige and quality. Do u understand???????????

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 07:42 PM
tlaselva...your looking for a supra? if you wouldnt mind importing one from the US...theres tonnes out there...

alezone...i was only comparing the potential...i know (and ppl always argue about this with me) about the quality and cost, i dont come on here to talk down bmw's...but if i was working on a car for speed, i'd pick the supra over the m coupe..thats all.

tlaselva
02-07-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
tlaselva...your looking for a supra? if you wouldnt mind importing one from the US...theres tonnes out there...


Was looking at prices and availability.

In Canada, it's rare to find one stock, that hasn't been modified.

In the US, they're expensive. Most stock TT's run 40G US! :eek:

Jon@Bimmersport
02-07-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by tlaselva
Was looking at prices and availability.

In Canada, it's rare to find one stock, that hasn't been modified.

In the US, they're expensive. Most stock TT's run 40G US! :eek:

are you serious? there was a stock TT owned by a 50yr old for sale in the summer, 36g!! keep an eye out this spring man..they sell in the summer a lot, but cost isnt reasonable...but hell..if i had the cash i'd buy it!

djcontra
02-07-2003, 08:49 PM
modded supra TT would kill any ///m roadster whether it be quarter mile, or around the track. I've seen those supras race at the track, and they handle VERY nicely, and can do some sweet controlled drifts too.
I might be biased a bit though since a Supra TT with veilside bodykit has always been a dream car of mine =)

Polish
02-08-2003, 02:54 AM
yeah supra's are really nice cars too, like modded ones of course, not a fan of jap cars but yeah for sure, a modded supra twin turno would smoke a ///m roadster, though i heard it your gonna get and mod a supra going with a single after market turbo is much better, but whatever*wave*

Jon@Bimmersport
02-10-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Sith
yeah supra's are really nice cars too, like modded ones of course, not a fan of jap cars but yeah for sure, a modded supra twin turno would smoke a ///m roadster, though i heard it your gonna get and mod a supra going with a single after market turbo is much better, but whatever*wave*

modded with 2 aftermarket turbos is even better

they do the single turbo because they have the NA model

Shotta
02-10-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
modded with 2 aftermarket turbos is even better

they do the single turbo because they have the NA model

every supra over 750hp that ive seen has single turbo so i think they rip out the twin and put the single in for a reason, maybe less turbo lag?

Shotta
02-10-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by djcontra
modded supra TT would kill any ///m roadster whether it be quarter mile, or around the track. I've seen those supras race at the track, and they handle VERY nicely, and can do some sweet controlled drifts too.
I might be biased a bit though since a Supra TT with veilside bodykit has always been a dream car of mine =)


They do handle pretty good on the track but they never did have good enuff stopping power (just what ive noticed watching them race with the m3's, 911's, vipers's, ferraris)

Kurt Schneller
02-10-2003, 09:22 PM
*cough* *cough* rgmotorsport,(www.rgmotorsport.com)
1250HP 3,2l M3 ala 400km/h.

Jon@Bimmersport
02-10-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Shotta
every supra over 750hp that ive seen has single turbo so i think they rip out the twin and put the single in for a reason, maybe less turbo lag?

yea, with 1 turbo it can be a lot bigger, but theres a shit load of lag, the turbo would kick in at like 4000rpm or something wouldnt it?

Kurt Schneller
02-12-2003, 08:39 PM
Porche use 2 smaller turbos vs one bigger turbo due to the 2 smaller turbos making less turbo lag.

Shotta
02-13-2003, 01:09 AM
nos is a good cure for lag

Jon@Bimmersport
02-13-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Shotta
nos is a good cure for lag

nos is a cure for anything regarding SPEED

M50E30
02-13-2003, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
nos is a cure for anything regarding SPEED

I think this should say: "Nitrous is for morons!"

BlitzSix
02-25-2003, 02:01 AM
Sorry to bring up such an old thread, but I'm amazed at the amount of stuff some of you people say that isn't true.

Show car and 1/4 mile Jon?
Have you ever SEEN Supras on a track? Have you heard of a little thing called ONE LAP OF AMERICA? Well a DAILY DRIVEN Supra, with a driver who has never raced on some of the tracks there, came in FOURTH with his Supra, out of over 83 other cars (MANY of which are only setup for track, such as many Vipers, Vettes, Porsches and BMWs).

And 600 HP is nothing, with a big (huge) turbo they can make 900+ TO THE WHEELS. With about 700 HP they're still not laggy and can be daily driven reliable while running 10s on the 1/4 mile track.

It's all about how it's set up, if it's set up to do 1/4 mile then it does just that, but there are MANY road raced Supras that kick ass as well.

And SOLDOMATIC, I'm not even gonna go there and say anything about your complete ignorance, other than the fact that proving whose car is faster in a straight line proves which car have faster acceleration (;)) AND that the Supra(any some other Japanese cars) are NOT econo boxes, and are not FWD, and they can kick ass on the 1/4 mile track and a road race track (Supra, NSX, RX-7, etc is what I have in mind)

Please post your opinions and lets have a nice discussion going as I think I'm sort of knowledgeble on this subject (which doesnt happen often). :)

M50E30
02-25-2003, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by DarkRider
Show car and 1/4 mile Jon?
Have you ever SEEN Supras on a track?

Jon hasn't been on a track! Hell he dosen't have a licence!

Not to totaly jump on you grasshopper but experience is a major thing. I even don't have track experience! I went around Mosport as a passenger in a track E30 325is with a very experienced driver (no not Randy), and I have realized that I have a LONG way to go! So keep pluging away little bugga!

*th-up*

So DarkRider insted of jumping on his little grasshopper skull (<--- :D ) you should come across more positive...we don't want to discourage the little guy even tho he can be a PITA! Cool?

Soldo
02-25-2003, 03:25 AM
HEY DARKRIDER,
heres one for ya, F*%K YA!!!!!

BlitzSix
02-25-2003, 03:51 PM
M50E30, I just don't think that he should have posted something he doesn't know about. Have you ever noticed that I didn't post much Bimmer related stuff on this board? That's probably because I don't want to talk about stuff I don't know. How would YOU feel if I just went on and said that Bimmers are slow and that they break down every 100 miles?

SOLDOMATIC, GOOD JOB, you have nothing to say because you know you're wrong so you just say **** you. How mature :rolleyes:

Jon@Bimmersport
02-25-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by DarkRider
M50E30, I just don't think that he should have posted something he doesn't know about. Have you ever noticed that I didn't post much Bimmer related stuff on this board? That's probably because I don't want to talk about stuff I don't know. How would YOU feel if I just went on and said that Bimmers are slow and that they break down every 100 miles?

SOLDOMATIC, GOOD JOB, you have nothing to say because you know you're wrong so you just say **** you. How mature :rolleyes:

i wasnt gonna reply, and waste my time...but, to be honest some bimmer's do break down a lot, and yes, some are slow, bliss' car isnt very fast IMO when i was in it, 180hp with 19s? and M50E30's car has had some problems since the swap (sorry to bring it up, im just making a point)...and it isnt the most reliable since.

in case u didnt read my post, i said IMO..do u know what that means?

BlitzSix
02-25-2003, 05:26 PM
Yes, but the idea is to back up your opinion with some facts :)

And if YOU read my post I said to post what you think about my post so we can get a discussion here, so that would be nice if you did that instead of just saying that it's your opinion...

Edit #2: And it's not that you shouldn't post your opinion, it's just that I don't agree with the way you word it. Like I said, I dont go on this forum saying bad stuff about Bimmers with no valid reason for my states and then just taggin an "IMO" on it so I can say it's my opinion and I dont care what you think.

SOO...that is why I don't agree with you saying that Supras are no good on the track (because you didn't post *any* reasons). I didn't mean for this to be a personal attack if that's what you took it as.

~Vadim

M50E30
02-25-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
M50E30's car has had some problems since the swap (sorry to bring it up, im just making a point)...and it isnt the most reliable since.

I had one problem...a fuse. I told you that. And before you reply...the wheels don't count a a reliability issue.

*no-no*

Jon@Bimmersport
02-25-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by M50E30
I had one problem...a fuse. I told you that. And before you reply...the wheels don't count a a reliability issue.

*no-no*

what about the tachs not working? and wheels staying on the car is part of reliablity in a way


i didnt take it as an attack, maybe dildomatic did but thats different..i just think they are very heavy, and why use such a heavy car for the track? i have no doubt that they are capable of being high hp and track preped (look at JUN's 900hp supra)...im just saying, their potential is best as a street car with high HP to tear ricers apart.

M50E30
02-25-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
what about the tachs not working? and wheels staying on the car is part of reliablity in a way

The tach washooked up! It was the speedo that dosen't work! Prime example of not knowing the facts.

And for the wheels...it isn't an issue when you have 3 sets. You are talking about the conversion anyways and I haven't replaced any engine parts.

Jon@Bimmersport
02-25-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by M50E30
The tach wasn't even hooked up! Who needs a tach anyway? Use the sound of the engine to shift.

And for the wheels...it isn't an issue when you have 3 sets. You are talking about the conversion anyways and I haven't replaced any engine parts.

dave, no i wasnt...i said SINCE!! the swap..that doesnt mean the swap it self, it means after u had it done..:huh?:

M50E30
02-25-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
dave, no i wasnt...i said SINCE!! the swap..that doesnt mean the swap it self, it means after u had it done..:huh?:

Aaaaaarrggggghhhhh!!! :mad: I give up. Jon you are the master! U know everything about everything! I'm just stupid and slow. *shiner*

BlitzSix
02-25-2003, 07:21 PM
Cool. Jon, can I have your MSN?

PS. Check out this pic of a T88 and some kid:

http://www.performancescene.net/babyturbo.jpg

Jon@Bimmersport
02-25-2003, 07:31 PM
why do u want my msn? can u get honda parts

BlitzSix
02-25-2003, 07:34 PM
Uhh to talk?
What do you mean can I get Honda parts ?

Bliss
02-25-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
what about the tachs not working? and wheels staying on the car is part of reliablity in a way


i didnt take it as an attack, maybe dildomatic did but thats different..i just think they are very heavy, and why use such a heavy car for the track? i have no doubt that they are capable of being high hp and track preped (look at JUN's 900hp supra)...im just saying, their potential is best as a street car with high HP to tear ricers apart.


Jon, before you start bashing other people's rides, including my own, I would STRONGLY suggest that you at least DRIVE a car that is somewhat quick (Not your cousin's dx civic--I have that, and it's far from quick lol) or at least drive a normal car for that matter.

My point is, get a LICENSE, get a CAR, and gather some EXPERIENCE, then talk.

btw, that one time you were in my car, i was driving the car at normal revs. How can u tell if it was fast or not? lol

M50E30
02-25-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Bliss
btw, that one time you were in my car, i was driving the car at normal revs. How can u tell if it was fast or not? lol

'Cause he is.....

Jon@Bimmersport
02-26-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Bliss
Jon, before you start bashing other people's rides, including my own, I would STRONGLY suggest that you at least DRIVE a car that is somewhat quick (Not your cousin's dx civic--I have that, and it's far from quick lol) or at least drive a normal car for that matter.

My point is, get a LICENSE, get a CAR, and gather some EXPERIENCE, then talk.

btw, that one time you were in my car, i was driving the car at normal revs. How can u tell if it was fast or not? lol

bliss, i wasnt bashing dave's car...he knows i love it, its like the 3rd best E30 to me, he knows that...i already posted that before!

i have driven, not very well..but the car is easily capable of 13sec...and u all have seen it! it had a 75hp subwoofer?

and its an LX civic man..lol i remember u redlined it a few times didnt u?

my cousin told me already he'll let me try his new motor out, and its gonna be fast, for an LX...

thinair
02-26-2003, 05:53 PM
My 2 cents.....

-I don't think that 1250hp M3 counts for this comparison (the only BMW parts in that car are like 75% of the engine.)

-All cars have their reliability issues, not just BMW's, Supra's have their issues too, as do Civics.

-Jon, you can't blame a car to not be reliable once it has been modified (aka. a lot more power output)

-there is nothing wrong with a fwd car doing 1/4 mile races (as much as I dislike fwd cars), just because it was started by the muscle car guys. Following that logic we should keep Cameros, Mustangs, Corvettes, etc off the road courses and out of auto-x events.

-Jon, a modded Civic is not the epitome of automobile engineering. I'll admit it can go fast in a straight line, and they can be made to handle (somewhat), but it doesn't mean it's best. You can also say that you can make a Civic do 13's or whatever cheaply, I'll bet you I can made an early 90's Mustang do 13's even cheaper. Don't bring Civics into an argument where they weren't even originally mentioned, you are not a spokesperson for modded Hondas.;)

-last one Jon, not everone cares about 1/4 as much as you.

Flame away....or MSN/ICQ away if it's really off topic.

Shotta
02-26-2003, 06:47 PM
you can also get a dodge shadow running 13's cheaper than a civic, dont fight me on this cuz ive seen it with my own eyes!*wiggle*

Lil'Smoothie
02-26-2003, 08:44 PM
Jon I dunno what you consider fast, and not sure what you would like as your first car, but if its one of these modded civics that you are always talking about I think it would be a very unrealistic goal. Just cuz a car doesnt run 13 or 14's in the 1/4 mile doesnt mean its not quick and fun. Bliss' car im sure is hella fast when rolling and off the line, even though its not a 13 sec car like some of these modded jap cars.

As for the original argument Supra vs. M coupe I like both cars, because I love the inline six engine.

But stock for stock BMW gets 330 horse out of a N/A engine whereas Toyota uses twin turbo's to get the same power. I wish BMW could steal Toyota's knowledge on turbo's

imagine a turbo E46 M3 *th-up*

Jon@Bimmersport
02-26-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Lil'Smoothie
Jon I dunno what you consider fast, and not sure what you would like as your first car, but if its one of these modded civics that you are always talking about I think it would be a very unrealistic goal. Just cuz a car doesnt run 13 or 14's in the 1/4 mile doesnt mean its not quick and fun. Bliss' car im sure is hella fast when rolling and off the line, even though its not a 13 sec car like some of these modded jap cars.

As for the original argument Supra vs. M coupe I like both cars, because I love the inline six engine.

But stock for stock BMW gets 330 horse out of a N/A engine whereas Toyota uses twin turbo's to get the same power. I wish BMW could steal Toyota's knowledge on turbo's

imagine a turbo E46 M3 *th-up*

jeez, it was only my opinion, if it drops the subject, bruce's car is hellllla fasst! there?

toyota and mitsubishi have really good turbo motors, the lancer evo is pushing 19psi and making 271hp, but the motor has 8:1 compression or something, which is good...if they made the compression a bit more, and had a bit less PSI it would make more power i think, but would need higher octane etc, which is why they didnt.

Kurt Schneller
02-26-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by thinair
My 2 cents.....

-I don't think that 1250hp M3 counts for this comparison (the only BMW parts in that car are like 75% of the engine.)

-All cars have their reliability issues, not just BMW's, Supra's have their issues too, as do Civics.

-Jon, you can't blame a car to not be reliable once it has been modified (aka. a lot more power output)

-there is nothing wrong with a fwd car doing 1/4 mile races (as much as I dislike fwd cars), just because it was started by the muscle car guys. Following that logic we should keep Cameros, Mustangs, Corvettes, etc off the road courses and out of auto-x events.

-Jon, a modded Civic is not the epitome of automobile engineering. I'll admit it can go fast in a straight line, and they can be made to handle (somewhat), but it doesn't mean it's best. You can also say that you can make a Civic do 13's or whatever cheaply, I'll bet you I can made an early 90's Mustang do 13's even cheaper. Don't bring Civics into an argument where they weren't even originally mentioned, you are not a spokesperson for modded Hondas.;)

-last one Jon, not everone cares about 1/4 as much as you.

Flame away....or MSN/ICQ away if it's really off topic.

I agree with much You said, and Jon their is a difference between MECHANICAL failure and wheels falling of. And regarding a 1250HP M3 doesn't count in a comparison like this: it's not like You get "Supra NOS" and "Civic NOS" also that M3 uses 2 T66 Turbos wich alot of other cars "siutable" for this comparison uses.

Jon@Bimmersport
02-27-2003, 12:06 AM
ok, i dont need a flame war, im already #2 on the top 10 list! :mad:

i never brought up a civic in this thread until bliss did, i know there are better cars than civics, first of all i would rather have a bmw over a 10sec civic anyday of the week, but i still like 1/4mile..

WASABI
02-27-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
first of all i would rather have a bmw over a 10sec civic anyday of the week, but i still like 1/4mile..

What's up with you and the 1/4 mile?:confused: 10sec spurts of adrenaline VS endless enlightenment on a road course;) ... oooooops I forgot you don't drive yet.:rolleyes: ... j/k :P

I like both the MCoupe and Supra, both sick cars !*th-up*

Shotta
02-27-2003, 06:15 PM
STOCK supra VS STOCK M what do u think would win on the strip and on a track like Mosport

Jon@Bimmersport
02-27-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Shotta
STOCK supra VS STOCK M what do u think would win on the strip and on a track like Mosport

i THINK (not know, for all those ppl who think i consider myself a know it all, GR8 RIDE) the supra would take the m coupe in the 1/4mile, but M coupe would outhandle the supra

BlitzSix
02-28-2003, 02:07 AM
What time does the M get in the 1/4? Supras do 13.4 or so stock...

thinair
02-28-2003, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by DarkRider
What time does the M get in the 1/4?

I guess which one, the one with the M52B32 engine (98-00), or the one with the S54 engine (01-02)....

Supposedly a 99 US spec M coupe will do just under 14 with 240hp....I dunno about the post '00 315hp M coupe.....

Shotta
02-28-2003, 10:18 PM
i agree with jon, supras can handle a bit but they lack in stopping power (so ive been told)

BlitzSix
02-28-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Shotta
i agree with jon, supras can handle a bit but they lack in stopping power (so ive been told)

What do you mean? They have some of the best stock brakes in their range...12.8 inch rotors...

GR8 Ride
02-28-2003, 11:53 PM
Rotor size is but one piece of the puzzle when it comes to braking ability.

Just because a car has 12.8 inch rotors means little in terms of direct braking torque, unless you're able to factor all the other pieces into the puzzle (piston area, MC piston size, pedal ratio, hydraulic pressure and clamping force).

Also, pad material has a big impact on braking torque as well, and pedal feel to a large extent.

I always get a kick out of people who want to compare numbers vs numbers on a car. This is like saying a car with a better skidpad number is automatically a better handling car than one with a lower number. Skidpad number reflect one thing...ability to grip around a skidpad. It actually has minimal impact in the reality of *handling*.

The Supra's are a nice car, but wildly over-priced in my opinion. They've held their value well, especially compared to the 300ZX's and RX7's of the Japanese competition.

However, they have never been a popular road-racing car, in part due to the overall weight of the vehicle, and probably due to the cost. Probably not a bad investment to buy one as a collector's car, but I wouldn't want to buy one as a track car.

I've known a lot of people who run the Supra as a 1/4 mile car, but nobody who runs them as a track car.


Oh, and Jon, you might *think* one would handle better than the other, or be quicker in the 1/4 mile, but we know you haven't driven either one. So you're *guessing*, rather than thinking....aren't you?

:moon:


Pat

Shamis
03-13-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
i've done 1/4mile (rougly) not road course...both with auto...i just learned stick recently....

supra is 1/4mile beast, u can get 600hp on stock internals


How u dont even have ur licence yet???

Shotta
03-13-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by SOLDOMATIC 325i
DAMN JAP guys, all they talk about with their cars is the 1/4 mile, some people need to STOP watchin FAST AND THE FURIOUS and relize that 1/4 mile was made for MUSCLE CARS not FWD economic JAP cars!!!
its not about who can drive in a STRAIGHT LINE the fastest either, i dunno WHAT that proves!!
its all about the car, AFTER the straght line, when the CORNERS kick in, then we'd see how BADLY that supra would get KILLED!!!

dude that has to be the most idiotic thing i have ever heard, sorry to burst ur bubble but as much as u and i love bmw, they are not the only fast TRACK cars, there are jap cars out there that would run laps around any bmw....

Jon@Bimmersport
03-13-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Shotta
dude that has to be the most idiotic thing i have ever heard, sorry to burst ur bubble but as much as u and i love bmw, they are not the only fast TRACK cars, there are jap cars out there that would run laps around any bmw....

my point exactly, see guys...this is comming from a euro and jap car owner/modder

so wtf, open your eyes, bmw's are the ultimate driving machine - of course, but once u line it up with a modded silvia, skyline, supra..your ****ed, why do u think tlaselva wanted a Supra? that thing will rape a lot of cars on the HWY, and 1/4mile if you know how to drive.

also lil smoothie, look at randy's car..total of $5000 and its in the low 13s, i wouldnt mind driving the egg around when im 17-19..low insurance, and its fukcing fast....the downside is its an ugly POS..lol

HighRev
04-06-2003, 07:41 AM
On that supra issue. Those things **** ppl up in the 1/4 mile. I live in Scottsdale, AZ and there is a guy that lives a couple blocks up and is pushing 1000hp at the crank and alomst 900hp to the wheels. He hits 9's in the 1/4 mile. Now thats ****ing fast.

///Milk
04-07-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
supra IMO is good for one thing...show car, and 1/4mile car...i never seen an M coupe run 9sec...have you? i have videos n stuff of 9sec supras...they are so common in the US
hahah
i have seen a video of a 2002 doing a quarter mile in 9.5 seconds
lol