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ZHP_Bimmer05
05-30-2008, 02:14 AM
Hey guys,
Im buying my own car soon but my dad wont let me buy a manual car, unless i know how to drive standard. So i was wondering if of you guys can help out a fellow maxmember out, so hopefully i dont get stuck with an auto trannie:(. Thanks guys

98Dinan3
05-30-2008, 02:23 AM
try to find a 5 speed rental... you don't want to destroy someones clutch on them.

mudmojo
05-30-2008, 02:44 AM
Study the theory here...
http://standardshift.com/videos.html
http://www.nerocam.com/ManTrans.asp

... and then take a quick lesson here and you'll be a pro!
http://www.shifters.ca/

propr'one
05-30-2008, 02:44 AM
i took 3 classes and bought my first car (manual bmw)

http://www.shifters.ca/

Ask for carlos (owner) to be your instructor. He's a great instructor; not only will he teach you how to drive, but will show you, in an easy to understand way, how to avoid developing bad habits.

Dado 540
05-30-2008, 04:25 AM
Any of you guys get caugh in the rush hour. Unless i take the 407 i get stuck on the highway in the rush...how do you cope with the manual shitfing. up, down, up , down does it drive you crazy. Im for the manual all the way, but sometimes i think...with this abnormally increasing traffic, maybe going with an auto tranny isnt that bad???

SickFinga
05-30-2008, 05:39 AM
Any of you guys get caugh in the rush hour. Unless i take the 407 i get stuck on the highway in the rush...how do you cope with the manual shitfing. up, down, up , down does it drive you crazy. Im for the manual all the way, but sometimes i think...with this abnormally increasing traffic, maybe going with an auto tranny isnt that bad???

Believe it or not I actually prefer stick in traffic over automatic.

When you drive automatic, you always have to move your leg from gas to the brake pedal. On manual cars all I have to do is apply gas and let it go. Manual car engine brake much better than automatic.

Gamite
05-30-2008, 08:24 AM
I've driven to work a few times, the manual wasn't bad in traffic. Mind you, this wasn't heavy heavy traffic. But it was 5PM coming from downtown.

Nascar318is
05-30-2008, 08:35 AM
If I'm stuck in traffic for more then an hour I hate Stick, always pumping the clutch, gas, and brake.. That's why my new car is auto just for that reason. Just have to flip my foot from one pedal to another without lifting my heel.

Gamite
05-30-2008, 08:36 AM
Believe it or not I actually prefer stick in traffic over automatic.

When you drive automatic, you always have to move your leg from gas to the brake pedal. On manual cars all I have to do is apply gas and let it go. Manual car engine brake much better than automatic.

you can do this with tiptronic too. So in that case automatic would be easier.

Soldo
05-30-2008, 08:37 AM
You guys PAID someone to teach you to drive stick? Am i the only one that thinks thats a little crazy!

I bought my car, and taught myself how to drive it. It's not rocket science!

DriveItSideways
05-30-2008, 08:47 AM
lol I learned to drive stick when I was 10yrs old, my dad tossed me the keys to a broke ass tercel 5spd and let me loose in a huge/empty parking lot very early in the morning.

T.Dot_E30
05-30-2008, 08:58 AM
i learned to drive stick practically by myself, my dad had a few too much to drink, i had my g1, for the first 5mins he was awake and giving me pointers, after that he passed out.

Atleast we made it home.

maroli
05-30-2008, 09:01 AM
i learned to drive stick practically by myself, my dad had a few too much to drink, i had my g1, for the first 5mins he was awake and giving me pointers, after that he passed out.

Atleast we made it home.


lol, not bitter or anything are you ? :)

Soldo
05-30-2008, 09:16 AM
lol I learned to drive stick when I was 10yrs old, my dad tossed me the keys to a broke ass tercel 5spd and let me loose in a huge/empty parking lot very early in the morning.

HA, i remember the early ass sunday morning mall parking lots when i was 10. Man i miss the good old days. Nothing says BALLIN like sitting on a phone book just so you can see over your knuckles on the wheel!

davericher20
05-30-2008, 09:28 AM
Yeah I'll teach you to drive stick son, just put your hand on the knob.........yep....there ya go son. Good boy..........yep.
Just Buy the ****in 5 speed and learn how to drive it. You don't need anyone to teac h you.
ONly thing you need to know is to put the clutch in when you start it.
I had to learn by myself in an S10 to which I backed into my boss' building when I was 15. Tow it to a parking lot. Lol.

DriveItSideways
05-30-2008, 09:38 AM
HA, i remember the early ass sunday morning mall parking lots when i was 10. Man i miss the good old days. Nothing says BALLIN like sitting on a phone book just so you can see over your knuckles on the wheel!

lol gotta love the phone book technique.

I dont know if it was because I was alot smaller or it was the old cars but it seemed like I had to throw the entire length of a baseball feild to get it into gears, especially when I drove one of those nissan multi's.

SeRb
05-30-2008, 09:46 AM
you can learn to drive stick in a couple of hours, just make sure you understand the theory behind it first....

perfecting it will take a little longer but you'll learn in no time

my friend let me drive his car couple days ago in a parking lot to show me that driving stick isn't bad at all, drove around and i only stalled it when i parked because i let off the clutch while it was parked before turning it off and it was still in gear

let me drive home too same thing happened when i was reversing up my driveway, was ready to shut it off and again while it was in gear i let off the clutch and the same thing happened

other than that the other times i drove it never stalled

El Gato Liso
05-30-2008, 09:58 AM
**** man just teach your self

in 19 years of being alive (20 now)

my first e30 was my firstcar and first manual driving
i jumped in that shit, and drove off.

1st gear, and reverse will take time to get...other than that once you're out of first its just common sense really.

BenBMW
05-30-2008, 10:03 AM
Stick is very easy to learn. The EASIEST way to learn is to just DO IT! Buy the car and just do it. That's what I did. Manual FTW!

dbworld4k
05-30-2008, 10:50 AM
Believe it or not I actually prefer stick in traffic over automatic.

When you drive automatic, you always have to move your leg from gas to the brake pedal. On manual cars all I have to do is apply gas and let it go. Manual car engine brake much better than automatic.

+1. I love my 5spd in traffic. I commute to downtown in rush hour traffic 2-3 times per week from Brampton, and I have zero complaints.

maroli
05-30-2008, 11:35 AM
I will teach you, but only if you're a smokin hot female

R.S.C
05-30-2008, 11:41 AM
You guys PAID someone to teach you to drive stick? Am i the only one that thinks thats a little crazy!

I bought my car, and taught myself how to drive it. It's not rocket science!

lol same didn't know how to drive stick at the time and limped my way home from the dealership. Of course it was a traumatic experience and I didn't drive it again for a week after! *shiner*

Mystikal
05-30-2008, 11:48 AM
Im buying my own car soon but my dad wont let me buy a manual car

So is it you buying it or him?

Sneaky
05-30-2008, 12:13 PM
Go to a driving school, its usually 40 bucks a lesson on a manual car.

dbworld4k
05-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Stick is very easy to learn. The EASIEST way to learn is to just DO IT! Buy the car and just do it. That's what I did. Manual FTW!

+1. After BimmerSport did my 5spd conversion I just sat in the car with my friend explaining the basics of driving manual. I just learned by driving that thing. It's not difficult at all if you understand the basic concepts of how it works.

uniter
05-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Your Dad? Won't let YOU BUY? Is he buying?
Your money, your clutch, if you're still letting daddy tell you what to do with your cash then you need to dip.

Jim .E.
05-30-2008, 12:34 PM
i just learned last week on my brothers tiburon before getting rid of it. first time i drove and surprisingly i only stalled once out of the half hour of driving it. was a right hand turn and i let go of the clutch too quickly. only key advice i can give is don't let go of the clutch too quickly or you'll stall in theory give as much gas as you let go of the clutch i.e. keep the amount of gas in proportion to the amount of clutch release, after your in second smooth sailing from there.

mirek
05-30-2008, 12:39 PM
So is it you buying it or him?

*th-up**th-up*

98Dinan3
05-30-2008, 01:14 PM
So is it you buying it or him?

I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to rock the boat. Basically, just tell your father autotragics are for pussies, and that he doesn't want a pussy for a son does he? It'll work if you threaten to turn gay on him...:D

Fel
05-30-2008, 01:34 PM
I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to rock the boat. Basically, just tell your father autotragics are for pussies, and that he doesn't want a pussy for a son does he? It'll work if you threaten to turn gay on him...:D

:D

Yeah, learning isn't that bad man, you just need to do it. My 5er is a 5-speed, I'd only driven a stick Civic once before I bought my car. Had to basically learn on the way home, cause it was a 45 minute drive from the lot I got it from, so if I didn't learn, I wasn't getting home. I'll admit I stalled a few times, but got the hang of it pretty quickly.

Now, having said that, there's a big difference between being able to drive stick, and being able to drive stick well. That took me a little longer, a few months before I was able to rev match and downshift properly. it takes practice and every car is unique, even among the same model. But practice makes perfect. After 2.5 years of driving stick, I'm nearly a pro. (well, not really, haha... I just like to think so) But my downshifts are near flawless and I never ahve to think about what I'm doing, it just happens.

As for traffic, it's not bad, the only time it gets really annoying is when you're in stop-and-go on the highway going between 0 and 40km/h over and over.... if you do that for 20+ minutes, your leg starts to get tired... but otherwise, it's not bad around town either, I much prefer it. I like the feeling of being engaged in driving, and not just going along for the trip.

MisTAmaN
05-30-2008, 01:52 PM
when it comes to driving standard i look at it like this:
*always have clutch pushed in when turning off and on and keep pushed in untill gear is in no gear=neutral.
*always start from a standstill point in gear 1 (clutch must be pressed)
for the first initial movement, slowly depress the clutch, SLOWLY... then when you notice the movement of the cyar happening thats when the clutch is engaging. from that point thats when you want to apply gas with foot still on the clutch depressing it to get full contact. you should be moving now in first, if not... then i messed up and dont know what im saying. but then overall switching gears should be within 2500 rpm range as a start. when braking make sure you used both clutch and brake as a start.

you dont have to but because at low speeds engine will jerk/stall.
(try to kno what speeds your at in certain gears for breaking to put it in the right gear )
*dont ever forget the clutch if you wanna fukc up your tranny
*dont ever forget the brake is you dont wanna get in a acident
b4 trying with the car off...get used to the switching gears familiar with the footing and all that bla bla bla. i think those are some tad of good starting tips.... if not or if anybody dissagrees or what not...then screw everything i said.

i dont wanna be responsible for any fukcn accidents.

ZHP_Bimmer05
05-30-2008, 01:57 PM
thanks guys. and im paying hald and hes helpin out

MisTAmaN
05-30-2008, 01:58 PM
driving stick only sucks in traffic when you on a incline, example could be getting on the gardiner highway off spadina after jays win in a V6 or somthing...

bmw335i
05-30-2008, 02:07 PM
omg.. tried teaching the gf driving manual on my old prelude.. she burnt my clutch.. so never again.. there's a school that'll teach u.. can't remember... i think it's called shifter.

mirek
05-30-2008, 02:15 PM
driving stick only sucks in traffic when you on a incline, example could be getting on the gardiner highway off spadina after jays win in a V6 or somthing...

I don't' get it, am I the only one that doesn't mind stick in traffic, or on an incline? It's second nature to me, no rolling back, no stalling, left foot right foot, easy shit. With an automatic I'm always looking for that missing pedal and my hands get bored and figgity.

JNSchnitzer
05-30-2008, 02:22 PM
I don't' get it, am I the only one that doesn't mind stick in traffic, or on an incline? It's second nature to me, no rolling back, no stalling, left foot right foot, easy shit. With an automatic I'm always looking for that missing pedal and my hands get bored and figgity.

Yep and I tend to use the breaks a lot because I'm not used to not having to downshift. Once I actually clipped the left side of the break pedal on my mom's auto Cougar because I forgot that I was driving auto. I looked like an idiot breaking hard in the left lane on the 403 :)

Trekz
05-30-2008, 02:45 PM
Yep and I tend to use the breaks a lot because I'm not used to not having to downshift. Once I actually clipped the left side of the break pedal on my mom's auto Cougar because I forgot that I was driving auto. I looked like an idiot breaking hard in the left lane on the 403 :)

After driving my 5spd e36 when i got into my moms x5 when i went to stop i steped on brake with both feet lol.

Its easy to learn to drive manual, i pretty much thought myself by reading about it online then just practiced around the block for few hours. Like every one said its easy to learn but it takes abit of practice to get good at it.

EmmEff
05-30-2008, 03:33 PM
I just finished lessons with Shifters.ca (http://shifters.ca) in preparation for buying my first manual car (and my first BMW). I would definitely recommend it. Not only do you learn the basics, you learn how to drive SMOOTHLY.

Soldo
05-30-2008, 05:58 PM
Hahaha, what a great idea. I had no idea there was so many suckers willing to PAY someone to teach them to drive a 5spd. car!

Anyone wanna pay me to teach them to change their own oil?

JNSchnitzer
05-30-2008, 06:05 PM
Don't waste money on lessons people. Just get your dream car and learn on that and then buy a clutch with the money you saved on lessons (assuming that you burn your clutch, which you shouldn't). It's an experience that shouldn't be taught at school.

EmmEff
05-30-2008, 06:47 PM
Kinda hard to test drive a manual car with no manual experience, no?

Most salespeople ride along on test drives now. They'd probably have something to say when it's clearly obvious the person driving has no manual transmission driving experience.

propr'one
05-30-2008, 07:13 PM
lol @ experience which shouldn't be taught at school.

mabye they should just put people in 911TT's at mosport and tell them to figure it out?

Sa///M3
05-30-2008, 07:17 PM
Believe it or not I actually prefer stick in traffic over automatic.

When you drive automatic, you always have to move your leg from gas to the brake pedal. On manual cars all I have to do is apply gas and let it go. Manual car engine brake much better than automatic.
Exactly. I hate auto in traffic, I hate auto out of traffic. Auto ftl.

maroli
05-30-2008, 07:54 PM
does anyone else find the title of this thread vaguely pornographic?

EmmEff
05-30-2008, 08:01 PM
does anyone else find the title of this thread vaguely pornographic?

No. Not at all... we're all mature adults here, aren't we?

Boss17
05-30-2008, 08:32 PM
I taught my gf how to drive stick by going to the local honda dealership, grabbed a 5spd civic saying i was interested in buying one, went to empty parking lot, gave her the basic run about and let her do it. She learned extremely quick (45min and she was already comfortable).

As for myself, I learned on my car in a matter of a day. I bought the car, got inside with my bro, he gave me some quick pointers and off I went.

As far as traffic goes. I like 5spd, less braking. It's become second nature now, so I hardly even think about how I shift and such.

maroli
05-30-2008, 08:32 PM
lol, large two-part assumption there! anyway, yes, very immature...but I'm very lonely.

kidneykill
05-30-2008, 11:57 PM
1st gear, and reverse will take time to get...other than that once you're out of first its just common sense really.

+1 I started in 2nd for the longest time before I could perfect 1st gear!

JNSchnitzer
05-31-2008, 12:53 AM
lol @ experience which shouldn't be taught at school.

mabye they should just put people in 911TT's at mosport and tell them to figure it out?

Not everything needs to be taught at school. You'll have more fun learning it on your own, our with your dad if you're younger. Racing a 911TT is a different story :) although I would mind it if someone would give me access to a 911 and tells me "figure it out"

Arash
05-31-2008, 01:33 AM
Hey guys,
Im buying my own car soon but my dad wont let me buy a manual car, unless i know how to drive standard. So i was wondering if of you guys can help out a fellow maxmember out, so hopefully i dont get stuck with an auto trannie:(. Thanks guys

I'll teach you if you bring a car. 2 hours is all you need *th-up*

Not everything needs to be taught at school. You'll have more fun learning it on your own...

yeah, and develop bad habits

Mickey Knox
05-31-2008, 12:15 PM
Any of you guys get caugh in the rush hour. Unless i take the 407 i get stuck on the highway in the rush...how do you cope with the manual shitfing. up, down, up , down does it drive you crazy. Im for the manual all the way, but sometimes i think...with this abnormally increasing traffic, maybe going with an auto tranny isnt that bad???

my right arm is my automatic, honestly unless i am driving hard i dont notice shifting anymore, never had an automatic.

BMW BMXer
05-31-2008, 09:31 PM
I am curious, what kind of 'bad habits' does one learn, learning to drive stick without paying.

My dad taught me the basics, then left me to my own devices, I have never blown up a tranny or gone through a clutch?

I went from 5spd to auto to 5psd in traffic with the auto I almost fell asleep. It was so boring. Driving stick becomes almost like a body function after awhile.

Nascar318is
05-31-2008, 09:51 PM
I am curious, what kind of 'bad habits' does one learn, learning to drive stick without paying.

My dad taught me the basics, then left me to my own devices, I have never blown up a tranny or gone through a clutch?



I'm thinking some habits (that I've seen, first hand*shiner*),Grinding gears, changing gears without clutching(can be done but you have to know exactlly when to do it) leaving it in gear while stopped in traffic(should leave it in neutral, with the brake applied) Some will come to a stop in 5th or 6th with the clutch pressed in and they never change gears, then go to take off(still in 5th or 6th) and you end up stalling most of the time if you don't catch it fast enough. Changing gears during a turn is a no go according to instructors. Revving the crap out of the engine and then letting go of the clutch to take off, slipping the clutch all the time(on an incline using the clutch to keep still and not the brake)..

But after you get the hang of it, it's like second nature, you can do it with your eyes shut.

saix
05-31-2008, 10:08 PM
^What kind of turns? Most of the time I take a turn in neutral then pop it in gear depending on my speed.

Nascar318is
05-31-2008, 10:10 PM
Just a turn in general, say you are at a light turning left, when you take off you are in first, you are supposed to only go in second after you have completed the turn,(I guess it's so you don't fish tail). You loose marks for that if you take your drivers test with a manual.. I could be wrong for Ontario...

propr'one
05-31-2008, 10:27 PM
-coasting with your foot on the clutch
-leaving your hand on the shift knob when driving around
-downshifting incorrectly

etc.

i'm not saying you can't learn what habits to avoid without paying for classes, but they definatly are a good way to go

5style
05-31-2008, 10:57 PM
I don't' get it, am I the only one that doesn't mind stick in traffic, or on an incline? It's second nature to me, no rolling back, no stalling, left foot right foot, easy shit. With an automatic I'm always looking for that missing pedal and my hands get bored and figgity.

Nope, not the only one. I don t get the incline deal, put in first, hold clutch in right at the catch point, release brake, car doesn t roll back, doesn t move forward or stall. then add gas and slow release clutch for perfect liftoff, duh. Noobs that roll back make me laff.

ZHP_Bimmer05
05-31-2008, 10:57 PM
thx for all the details/help guys

5style
05-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Just a turn in general, say you are at a light turning left, when you take off you are in first, you are supposed to only go in second after you have completed the turn,(I guess it's so you don't fish tail). You loose marks for that if you take your drivers test with a manual.. I could be wrong for Ontario...

LMAO!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! must be fun hittign redline on your turns. when the turn is over i am already in 3rd.

wax off
05-31-2008, 11:08 PM
LMAO!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! must be fun hittign redline on your turns. when the turn is over i am already in 3rd.

Are you serious? How?

Nascar318is
05-31-2008, 11:23 PM
LMAO!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! must be fun hittign redline on your turns. when the turn is over i am already in 3rd.


I'm confused, I guess you didn't read my full post.

5style
05-31-2008, 11:28 PM
Are you serious? How?

1st to half turn, 2nd to finish turn, at about 3000 rpm when turn is over , 3rd. simple.

5style
05-31-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm confused, I guess you didn't read my full post.

I read it. If i was to stay in first for the whole turn and then go into second when it was over, i would be hitting 5-6k rpm... at the end of the turn. You have more torque in first then in second, so if you floor it in first on a corner and hold it, you ll DEFINATELY go sideways. Higher gear= less slipage.

Nascar318is
05-31-2008, 11:35 PM
I read it. If i was to stay in first for the whole turn and then go into second when it was over, i would be hitting 5-6k rpm...

Same here but if you do what you do(and everyone else, including me) in a driving test, you would get docked marks.. The reason is for possibly fishtailing on a RWD and not having both hands on the wheel while in the middle of the turn. And yes it is stupid cause you would hit redline no problem before finishing your turn.

5style
05-31-2008, 11:40 PM
Same here but if you do what you do(and everyone else, including me) in a driving test, you would get docked marks.. The reason is for possibly fishtailing on a RWD and not having both hands on the wheel while in the middle of the turn. And yes it is stupid cause you would hit redline no problem before finishing your turn.

I wasnt laughing at you, that was just a general comment for the retards who do that. Still if you turn in a lower gear you have more torque to actually make you fishtail.

The mazda wouldn t hit redline, but then again redline starts @ 9k...LOL

Nascar318is
05-31-2008, 11:45 PM
The mazda wouldn t hit redline, but then again redline starts @ 9k...LOL

*mumble*

5style
05-31-2008, 11:48 PM
*mumble*

don t worry, at 9 k the gas needle noticably drops :(

318s ftw! btw 318is krew lol.

rendered
06-02-2008, 04:41 PM
If you buy me a new clutch, I'll teach you on my ZHP coupe! however long it takes for you to get the hang of it!

EmmEff
06-02-2008, 04:53 PM
I think it'd be cheaper to take the course :)

Boots R
06-02-2008, 04:59 PM
I read it. If i was to stay in first for the whole turn and then go into second when it was over, i would be hitting 5-6k rpm... at the end of the turn. You have more torque in first then in second, so if you floor it in first on a corner and hold it, you ll DEFINATELY go sideways. Higher gear= less slipage.

You're supposed to stay in one gear because you're not supposed to accelerate while IN a turn.


Proper driving =/= actual driving

uniter
06-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Not until you hit the apex...

5style
06-02-2008, 10:29 PM
You're supposed to stay in one gear because you're not supposed to accelerate while IN a turn.


Proper driving =/= actual driving

fwd=ftl LOL

BMW_7
06-02-2008, 10:41 PM
fwd=ftl LOL

shoulda said that when you had the pug