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86coupe30
02-05-2008, 01:49 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3281663
*rockout*
not my car.. nice though whoevers. but pricey.. thought id post it up here

punnzzells
02-05-2008, 03:17 PM
not bad...

Lee
02-05-2008, 05:27 PM
May I comment that despite the owner mentionning the car was built at the factory, I highly doubt it is not what it is advertized. Car may rather have been a brand new US-spec car, on which the Hartge importer grafted the Hartge accessories. That was the common way to do. If it were done in Germany, car wouldn't be a US spec, owner would proudly display a Hartge serial number plate and car would have bigger TUV approved front brakes to go with the bigger motor. Can't order an H26-27 without bigger brakes in Germany. Badges are all wrong on the rear deck and misses the rear apron.

Weren't H26 only early types based on the 2.3 inline six, while 2.5-based motors are H27s?

Sorry to be critical, but some things don't add up...

marek
02-05-2008, 08:01 PM
Car could have been a euro delivery car taken to Hartge to get modified or it could have been imported and modified to CDN spec back when new. New imigrants were allowed to bring cars with them.

AWDE30
02-07-2008, 12:56 AM
looks like a bunch of hartge parts on a vert.

Boss17
02-07-2008, 02:54 PM
looks like an overpriced e30, that's treading on e30 m3 territory.

Hartge H26
02-07-2008, 10:36 PM
I have a hartge H26 not direct from Germany but from BMW St.Martin in MTL who were one of the very few true authorized dealers back in the day. I have all the papers from Hartge indicating exactly what was done to the car. At the time mine was being done the only other one I know of was a champagne on which belonged to te owners son, I'm pretty sure they made more than 2. Only the cars direct from Germany have the Hartge plate in the engine bay (my buddy has it on his H35 that we brought over from Germany). Only the H35 had to have the bigger brakes and generally came with the additional fuel tank in the truck. The H26 and H27 are both based on the same M20 6 cylinder motor.

Agreed the badging is completly way off the mark but the rear apron is correct as Hartge made a crappy 3 pc that broke very easily. The front is a stock 325is spoiler as hartge at thie time only made on for the Euro bumpers or you had to get the 1pc tat was on the H35. I'm really suprised on the wheels he has though, those one's were generally made for the E30 M3 and the exhaust wasn't stainless so I'm suprised his lasted this long, especially in MTL.

just my 2 cents.

Lee
02-08-2008, 05:34 PM
I agree that some cars were also put together at authorized Hartge/BMW dealers. I too know a very nice black 1988 e30 assembled at BMW St-Martin and still oned by original prchaser. The problem is that the owner of the cabrio claims the whole car was built at the factory. Factory cars are different from dealer-assembled car. And when a seller starts being misleading on obvious issues, I start wondering about the details.

BTW factory Hartge cars and dealer assembled cars don't have the same value.

Hartge H26
02-08-2008, 07:02 PM
who do you know that has a black one. My was orignally purchsed by my uncle in MTL.

jameswbl
02-09-2008, 10:05 AM
he should come clean if he is asking that kinda price

Yanto
03-25-2008, 01:17 PM
Weren't H26 only early types based on the 2.3 inline six, while 2.5-based motors are H27s?

.

The H26 was based on the M20 B25 E30 with headwork done, suspension, 6 branch manifold and full stainless exhaust, thicker ARBs and optional bodykit, Chipped ECU and normally Hartge Classic wheels.

The H27 was stroked using normally the Diesel crank, all the above as well, so the H26 was actually still a 2.5 whilst the H27 achieved the 2.7. Stock power was 190 and 205 respectively whilst the H27SP showed around 215bhp.

The early cars based on the 323i was known as the H23 and gave similar output to the stock 325 which came a little later.

HTH

Iain

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craz azn
03-25-2008, 01:21 PM
^^ good informative post. What is an 'ARB' though?

Yanto
03-26-2008, 07:55 AM
^^ good informative post. What is an 'ARB' though?

Thanks.

ARB being the anti roll bar (possibly you call it the sway bar

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